a/c delete questions

[reckless_12v]

so i have a 86 golf gti 1.8 CIS and ive heard of all different ways to go about deleting the a/c and running the alternator off the other two belts still. i searched but didnt find much, i found an extended pulley for the alt. and ive heard of dropping the alt. to the a/c position. if someone could give me some direction with this im a lil puzzled tryin to set it up thanks alot

a diy would be swell

[superl8]

you need the pulley as you've mentioned and the entire bracket assembly for non ac. I did this and it worked. I still needed to add a washer behind the pulley as well as machine a little off the inside of the pulley so the nut could bite on the short threaded shaft off the alternator. It worked perfectly by I took some time to get it dialed. I used a lathe to remove some of the material from the pulley.

[reckless_12v]

idk about doing all that i heard there was a bracket from the 2.0 aba that was updated and can be run to delete the a/c and the only thing you need is the new belt does anyone know about this maybe a part number for that bracket would help

[70 miles]

I believe you can use this on your 86. It worked fine on my 91.
http://www.toywagen.com/

[reckless_12v]

i was thinking about this i might just buckle down an order it i wanted to stay with the oe bracket and what not but it seems like a good easy way to delete the a/c with minimal parts thank you very much for shedding some light on this product

[70 miles]

i was thinking about this i might just buckle down an order it i wanted to stay with the oe bracket and what not but it seems like a good easy way to delete the a/c with minimal parts thank you very much for shedding some light on this product

No problem

[Glegor]

its much easier to just find a fox, or econo-box jetta or golf, and rob the crank pulley, water pump pulley, and the alternator bracket..

most foxes had no a/c, and are SUPER COMMON in wrecking yards..

my 86 Golf had no a/c factory. it has a completely different set of pulleys than my GTI (w/ AC) had..

i imagine you can get used pulleys from u-pluck-it for much less than the toywagen pulley..

the toywagen pulley is harder on alternator bearings as well.. the pulley is longer, and it exerts more leverage on the bearings..

the stock pulley is shorter, and therefor easier on bearings..

[70 miles]

When I deleted my A/C I got rid of all of the lines, evaporator,condenser, compressor etc and used the Toywagen pulley and belt kit and it worked fine. My Alt was already a year old when I installed this kit and it has been 2 .5 years since with over 28,000 miles since and still no problems.I'm sure you will find it easier to change the oil, belts, and other maintenance once the A/C is gone, plus you will feel a little more power as well .

[Glegor]

When I deleted my A/C I got rid of all of the lines, evaporator,condenser, compressor etc and used the Toywagen pulley and belt kit and it worked fine. My Alt was already a year old when I installed this kit and it has been 2 .5 years since with over 28,000 miles since and still no problems.I'm sure you will find it easier to change the oil, belts, and other maintenance once the A/C is gone, plus you will feel a little more power as well .

there is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE in power when you delete the a/c

when you arent running the a/c, its just an idler pulley, taking no extra power..

and like i said, the difference in leverage on the bearings may not be much, but it is still there..

the toywagen kit is cool.. but serpentine kits off an ABA can be had for pennies.. and the VR6 w/p pulley, its easy as cake to get too..

i have about $60 into my whole serpentine setup.. cost me $35 for the 120A TDI/VR6 alt, $12 for the belt, $8 for the VR pulley and $5 for the balancer and alt bracket/tensioner, and all the bolts for EVERYTHING..

and i made a 1/4" (6.3mm) hubcentric spacer for the water pump pulley to align it to the crank and alt pulleys..

if you had to buy everything at a wrecking yard, i would say that you would have right around $100 into a serp swap..

myself personally, i think the serp swap is the way to go.. i went from a dinky little 60a alt, to a big beefy TDI/VR6

being that your car is already an a/c car, you would not have to change your alternator wiring if you did decide to go with the serpentine system..

my car was already non-a/c, but i wanted bigger than a 65a alternator.. so i installed a 90a unit, but it would just squeal the belt if i put too big of a draw on it..

so, i went with the serpentine setup, and it solved all my belt slippage, and lack of amperage problems..