front looks like it came from lexus
I like it...looks classy. I think this could be competitive since they are going for a more upscale look. If it's quiet and smooth at speed, I'd consider it.
Previously Owned: 2010 Kia Forte, 2010 JK Wrangler, 2007 Passat, 2003 Jetta, 2002 Jetta, 1992 Sentra, 1998 Dakota, 1990 Ford Ranger
And just for grins, I looked it up: this new Sentra is now officially larger than an '84-'88 Maxima, and it's within 1" of the second-generation Altima.
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I don't practice llanteria
Old Versa (hatch/sedan) = Old Tiida (hatch/sedan) = Venucia D50/R50 (China) = Latio (JDM sedan)
New Versa sedan = Sunny (various markets) = Almera (Australia) = Renault Scala (India)
Upcoming USDM Versa hatch = Nissan Note (other markets)
New Tiida (most markets) = New Pulsar hatch (Australia)
New Sentra = New Bluebird/Sylphy (Asian markets) = New Pulsar sedan (Australia)
As far as I know, there are no plans to sell the new Tiida/Pulsar hatch in the USDM. If they do decide to bring it here, it will probably be a Sentra, because that's what it's closest to.
I ain't trying to hate, but I almost fell asleep looking at the OP pics. I wish EVERY CAR MANUFACTURER IN EXISTENCE would get off this generic-blob-we-all-looks-the-same shtick.
You want something with more character in this price range? I'm sure any Nissan dealer would be happy to show you a Cube or Juke.
The only things lacking were the seats (would kill my back after two hours) and the A/C; it could not handle high heat/humidity for very long.
I remember buying it at night and it was silver and when I woke up the next morning it was champagne. Turns out the color, Radium, looked silver under fluorescent lighting (which the dealership lot had) and champagne under sunlight.
The follow-on SE-R and Spec V were a disappointment and turned me away from Nissan. Come to think of it, all of the Sentras since then have been disappointments, at least in terms of that sort of bang-for-the-buck performance and it looks like it will remain thus. That's a shame.
This thing is offensively bland. And put me in the "reminds me of a Corolla" column. They're not identical by any means, but they both share that sort of upright and narrow body that looks one or two generations older than the competition.
Pretending to listen is a man's version of faking an orgasm.
Looks like a mini-Altima. Which, if the new Altima sells well (and recent history suggests it should), this is likely a good strategy for Nissan.
Why does it seem like the wheelbase is a bit too short for the body?
Doesn't look to be an enthusiast choice, but then again most Sentras built since the mid-90's haven't been so no surprise there. (I know about the SE-R, but it wasn't an especially great drive.)
Axing the SE-R is a bit disappointing but not a surprise. About 90% of the outgoing Sentras I see are SRs (SE-R bodywork with normal Sentra mechanics underneath). People like the Sentra SE-R look but pretty much don't care about the performance.
Thoughts expressed are those of the poster and not those of some long dead guy who I choose to speak for me.
I found the CVT to be great when tooling around the suburbs, but it was horrible doing 70+ on the highway. Need to merge or pass a car? Press the gas pedal about halfway and the revs shoot up to 4000 and you get a lot of noise but very little forward progress. After a few seconds you realize nothing is really happening, only to smash the gas to the floor out of frustration, which causes the revs to shoot to 6000+ and an amazing amount of noise -- and, still, nothing really happens aside from much-slower-than-expected acceleration.
Given the power rating of the car (140 hp, IIRC) I expected acceptable passing performance -- but, once rolling, it actually felt dangerously slow in Atlanta traffic to me, where nothing happened unless I floored it whenever I needed any power. My 5-speed Yaris is not a powerhouse by any means, but if you downshift to 3rd at 60 MPH and floor it, it has very good passing performance and zings up to 90 very quickly.
Improving the signal-to-noise ratio
Boring. LED accents but still using old halogen housing.... improved interior but still deforesting the plood jungle.... improved engine but only 130 hp.... and I'm guessing that class leading fuel economy is only because Nissan tinkered with the CVT enough to give it great city EPA numbers at the expense of driving pleasure.
But who cares it is a Corolla with better incentives and dealerships open on Sunday.
I have to stop this idiot from deminishing my credibility every time he posts because my usernsme is in his sig.
The Nissan website had scroll over asterisks... sigh.
Here is the footnote fwiw.
Also from Nissan site:2013 EPA Fuel Economy Estimate 34 MPG combined 50-state emissions and CVT transmission; 33 MPG combined CA state emissions. Actual mileage may vary — use for comparison only. Ward’s Light Vehicle Market Segmentation. MY13 Sentra vs. 2012 Upper Small Class excluding Hybrid and Diesel models.
Our most innovative? Did somebody besides Nissan make a more innovative Sentra?THE ALL-NEW 2013 NISSAN
OUR MOST INNOVATIVE SENTRA EVER
Seems like a strange word usage.
Styling - The curves and details look modern and give the car a sense of substance.
But final judgement is reserved for in person view, plus we need to see what the mainstream Sentra looks like (minus the bright color and top trim spec wheels).
Performance - Kudos on the fuel economy. Nissan makes the best CVTs, so I am sure it makes good use of the limited power. But let's be honest here- CVT + small low torque engine = not enjoyable to drive. When the CVT is paired with a small engine.. it sucks. That's just the way it is. But to the average consumer- that may not matter one iota as long as it goes when put in drive and you push that pedal thing with your foot.
Price - The IMPORTANT question. Economy and performance are things knowledgeable enthusiasts care about, but let's be honest about what sells: Styling and features for the price.
Is anybody gong to choose the new Sentra over a Cruze or Focus if the Cruze or Focus offers more for less AND has distinctive styling versus just trying to emulate some larger car? The current Sentra sells based on discount prices, and it wasn't especially compelling even when it originally came out.
The B13(?) Sentra was a great car that showed lots of blood, sweat and tears.
I kinda like it in a way (the SR model anyway) but I think its strange that Nissan is limiting the 6spd manual to the base S model. Nissan's manuals suck anyway so no worries. The SR has a bit of appeal to me in a Corolla S/XRS, Camry SE kind of way. The S, SV and SL models are bland but they do look better than the current Sentra. I can't wait to see and test drive one.
I'd like to see Nissan offer an "SR" Altima with a subtle body kit and some nice upgrades. I guess we can look forward to the Altima getting LED headlamps whenever it gets facelifted since the Sentra has them as standard equipment. That's kinda strange really.
Overall, I'd say the Sentra is a B- style wise, Focus, Elantra and Jetta GLI are still my top picks style-wise in this class.
Past: 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5S, 1991 Honda Accord EX
Present: 2007 Honda Accord EX-L 5MT
Future: 2012 Mini Countryman S, 2012 Ford Fusion SE 1.6t/6mt or 2012 Kia Optima SX 2.0t
Same BS as everyone else, take the bigger model design and shrink-wrap it on to a smaller model and hope that...I don't even know what. It looks even worse when the root design has those head- and tail- lights that stretch up towards the passenger compartment. Rollerskate wheels don't help. Well, I suppose they will compete on price.