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      09-02-2012 11:35 AM #1
      So everyone knows VW claims our 2012-2013 Golf R's can achieve 0-60 in 5.6 sec according to vw.com. This is obviously for a DSG version, which is not available in the US. My questions is, does anyone have ACCURATE recorded 0-60's with their manual Golf R's?

      Please state 2/4 doors, and any modifications you've done. I'm mainly interested in stock vs. APR stage 1 times, as this will be my next mod.

      Thanks guys!

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      09-02-2012 09:13 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by imluckynotgood View Post
      So everyone knows VW claims our 2012-2013 Golf R's can achieve 0-60 in 5.6 sec according to vw.com. This is obviously for a DSG version, which is not available in the US. My questions is, does anyone have ACCURATE recorded 0-60's with their manual Golf R's?

      Please state 2/4 doors, and any modifications you've done. I'm mainly interested in stock vs. APR stage 1 times, as this will be my next mod.

      Thanks guys!
      I have the P3Cars gauge installed and it has a 0-60 feature. I did two runs on my way to the track (forgot about it when I got there) and the second one put me at about 6.6 seconds, but I didn't do a really aggressive start and have never practised quick launches.
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      09-03-2012 02:32 AM #3
      Just as a comparision my eurospec completely stock Golf R with DSG using Launch Control does 0-100km/h (0-62mph) in 5.1 seconds.
      Here is the video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUsrdSOnhjo

      This is according to the speedometer. I will get an exact time using PerformanceBox soon.
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      09-03-2012 02:53 AM #4
      ~5.7s is possible with a hard launch and fast enough shifting on our manual cars.
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      09-03-2012 08:08 AM #5
      I am @ stage 2+ and have hit 5.7 twice by my P3 gauge after many tries the car really needs about 50 hp more to be able really launch avoiding bog is tricky, some clutch burn occurred so not trying to often.I haven't tried loading the car up on the handbrake yet, I will in the next few weeks.

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      09-03-2012 11:37 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by pcp999 View Post
      Motor Week says they got 5.7
      Why is it that every auto reviewer that tests the manual Golf R seems to get close to VW's estimates, where us in the real world are experiencing closer to mid 6's? Makes me wonder if the automotive journalists are actually getting these numbers or just copy and pasting "facts" from VW's specs..

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      09-03-2012 11:42 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Lamfalus View Post
      ~5.7s is possible with a hard launch and fast enough shifting on our manual cars.
      I don't mean to sounds blunt, but is this based on personal experience or theoretical speculation?

      I'm just a little bummed that I bought a car while bragging to my friends how it's quicker than any stock BMW/BENZ under $45k, when it's turning out in reality VW's 0-60 numbers for our MANUAL Golf R's are almost a second off.

      ^ Don't get me wrong I still love the car and I'm super happy with my decision all else considered, just feel a bit had for getting a 6.3-6.6 second car when I thought I was buying a 5.6-5.8 second car.

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      09-03-2012 11:44 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by imluckynotgood View Post
      Why is it that every auto reviewer that tests the manual Golf R seems to get close to VW's estimates, where us in the real world are experiencing closer to mid 6's? Makes me wonder if the automotive journalists are actually getting these numbers or just copy and pasting "facts" from VW's specs..
      Who cares? 0-60 is of overrated importance. As long as it's below 7 seconds, the feel of the car in general is more important.
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      09-03-2012 11:47 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by imluckynotgood View Post
      I don't mean to sounds blunt, but is this based on personal experience or theoretical speculation?

      I'm just a little bummed that I bought a car while bragging to my friends how it's quicker than any stock BMW/BENZ under $45k, when it's turning out in reality VW's 0-60 numbers for our MANUAL Golf R's are almost a second off.

      ^ Don't get me wrong I still love the car and I'm super happy with my decision all else considered, just feel a bit had for getting a 6.3-6.6 second car when I thought I was buying a 5.6-5.8 second car.
      Especially when an older Honda Accord coupe walks you at a stoplight...

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      09-03-2012 12:01 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by HardKnox View Post
      Especially when an older Honda Accord coupe walks you at a stoplight...
      I killed those in my MK4 R32.

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      09-03-2012 12:03 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by jsausley View Post
      Who cares? 0-60 is of overrated importance. As long as it's below 7 seconds, the feel of the car in general is more important.
      My reason for posting isn't because 0-60 times is an all important statistic, I'm just curious. I appreciate the objective responses, and if possible would like to keep subjectivity of what's "really" important in a car kept to a minimum. As I mentioned, I am very happy with the car over-all, including the "general feel". Just inquiring on what real world 0-60 times have been in spite of VW's 5.6 sales pitch..

    14. 09-03-2012 12:06 PM #14
      If you bought the car for bragging rights, you bought the wrong car.

      Now that that's out of the way.....

      0-60 is for racerboiz with pop-collared abercrombie shirts and frosted tips who like to spend hours e-sparring with other mental midgets to determine who is the most douche-tastic.
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      09-03-2012 12:27 PM #15
      I can see where the TS is coming from. If the car can't do 0-60 in 5.7 then the stats shouldn't say it can.

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      09-03-2012 01:54 PM #16
      Insideline says:
      0-60 (sec): 6.2 (7.8 w/ TC on)
      They wont put up a video.

      Motorweek claims 5.7 to 60. The video looks like they bog a little off the line.

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      09-03-2012 02:34 PM #17
      Someone of here clocked it at 5.7 0-60 on a stock R.

      The reason why you're seeing different numbers is because this is a manual and the launch depends heavily on the driver.

      I would say mid 5's should be possible on a stock R. 5.7 seems about right.

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      09-03-2012 03:06 PM #18
      I guess I'll just have to go out and try for myself! I'm still new to a lot of this stuff, as my last vehicle was a lifted Jeep Wrangler (no 0-60 conversation there ).

      What is a good product/software to accurately time 1/4 mile runs and 0-60's? Typical price range?

      Thanks again everyone for the constructive input!

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      09-03-2012 03:47 PM #19
      it all comes down to the driver, where they shift how they shift, how they launch.

      the transmission on these cars in my opinion is where they are lacking, first gear stinks to high hell and second gear is not much better, they are too short in my opinion and there is no time spent in the engines powerband.

      the best power is placed at abotu 2500-6000 rmp and from a launch by the time you take off you're already losing power then have to shift and the same thing happens untill you're in third gear and you have a little bit more time in the powerband.

      personally if i was tracking my R i would want to try and swap out the final gear ratios to about 3.6:1 and an equivalent reduction to final drive II ratio.

      the fly wheel is also pretty heavy and the RPMs sort of float there rather then accelerate and deccelerate quickly

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      09-03-2012 04:33 PM #20
      I agree with what Leo says, I have found 5K the ideal for me launch RPM. The dual mass flywheel sucks for me I can not wait to get a single mass setup.

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      09-03-2012 04:48 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by imluckynotgood View Post
      I guess I'll just have to go out and try for myself! I'm still new to a lot of this stuff, as my last vehicle was a lifted Jeep Wrangler (no 0-60 conversation there ).

      What is a good product/software to accurately time 1/4 mile runs and 0-60's? Typical price range?

      Thanks again everyone for the constructive input!
      I bought the P3Cars.com gauge and was delighted to discover that it had a 0-60 timer. I was initially worried that it would time me to the displayed 60 (5% high) and give me an artificially low time, but I found out that it has an actual speedometer function as well that reads accurately, so no reason to worry anymore.
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      09-03-2012 04:53 PM #22
      Please note that automags, and probably VW, omit the time of the first 12" rollout in their 0-60 times. It's very common and explains why they're often 0.3sec faster.

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      09-03-2012 05:36 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Rance View Post
      Please note that automags, and probably VW, omit the time of the first 12" rollout in their 0-60 times. It's very common and explains why they're often 0.3sec faster.
      Car & Driver also adjusts the number for 0 ft. sea level and may even compensate for temperature/humidity. So many factors here. They also don't care about toasting a clutch so will drop it at 5k+ if it helps.

      To answer the question have I done it myself? No, haven't even bothered. If VW says 5.7s, I have no reason to doubt it. A DSG car can do < 5.7s as someone else said so the 5.7 for manual makes sense.
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      09-03-2012 08:11 PM #24
      When I went to the drag strip a few months ago I was able to tick off a 13.95 which is in line with the fastest the magazines have gotten. I do not know my 0-60 because drag strips aren't concerned with that however on my 13.95 run my 330ft time was 5.829. It does not say mph but I bet I was somewhere near 60mph on that one, maybe even a little faster. Slip is below.

      edit: Here is my original post after going to the strip. From my first run until my fastest I cut 7 tenths purely on learning the vehicle/driving technique.
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...e-quarter-mile


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      09-03-2012 08:11 PM #25
      Has The Stig taken the R out for a spin yet? That would be pretty awesome.

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