Realized 0-60 times

[imluckynotgood]

So everyone knows VW claims our 2012-2013 Golf R's can achieve 0-60 in 5.6 sec according to vw.com. This is obviously for a DSG version, which is not available in the US. My questions is, does anyone have ACCURATE recorded 0-60's with their manual Golf R's?

Please state 2/4 doors, and any modifications you've done. I'm mainly interested in stock vs. APR stage 1 times, as this will be my next mod.

Thanks guys!

[BRSomm]

So everyone knows VW claims our 2012-2013 Golf R's can achieve 0-60 in 5.6 sec according to vw.com. This is obviously for a DSG version, which is not available in the US. My questions is, does anyone have ACCURATE recorded 0-60's with their manual Golf R's?

Please state 2/4 doors, and any modifications you've done. I'm mainly interested in stock vs. APR stage 1 times, as this will be my next mod.

Thanks guys!

I have the P3Cars gauge installed and it has a 0-60 feature. I did two runs on my way to the track (forgot about it when I got there) and the second one put me at about 6.6 seconds, but I didn't do a really aggressive start and have never practised quick launches.

[Rubarb]

Just as a comparision my eurospec completely stock Golf R with DSG using Launch Control does 0-100km/h (0-62mph) in 5.1 seconds.
Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUsrdSOnhjo

This is according to the speedometer. I will get an exact time using PerformanceBox soon.

[Lamfalus]

~5.7s is possible with a hard launch and fast enough shifting on our manual cars.

[watsonj0]

I am @ stage 2+ and have hit 5.7 twice by my P3 gauge after many tries the car really needs about 50 hp more to be able really launch avoiding bog is tricky, some clutch burn occurred so not trying to often.I haven't tried loading the car up on the handbrake yet, I will in the next few weeks.

[pcp999]

Motor Week says they got 5.7

http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...swagen_golf_r/

[BluDemon]

I go from 0 to who gives a $hit in a heart beat because it's not a race car.

[imluckynotgood]

Motor Week says they got 5.7

Why is it that every auto reviewer that tests the manual Golf R seems to get close to VW's estimates, where us in the real world are experiencing closer to mid 6's? Makes me wonder if the automotive journalists are actually getting these numbers or just copy and pasting "facts" from VW's specs..

[imluckynotgood]

~5.7s is possible with a hard launch and fast enough shifting on our manual cars.

I don't mean to sounds blunt, but is this based on personal experience or theoretical speculation?

I'm just a little bummed that I bought a car while bragging to my friends how it's quicker than any stock BMW/BENZ under $45k, when it's turning out in reality VW's 0-60 numbers for our MANUAL Golf R's are almost a second off.

^ Don't get me wrong I still love the car and I'm super happy with my decision all else considered, just feel a bit had for getting a 6.3-6.6 second car when I thought I was buying a 5.6-5.8 second car.

[jsausley]

Why is it that every auto reviewer that tests the manual Golf R seems to get close to VW's estimates, where us in the real world are experiencing closer to mid 6's? Makes me wonder if the automotive journalists are actually getting these numbers or just copy and pasting "facts" from VW's specs..

Who cares? 0-60 is of overrated importance. As long as it's below 7 seconds, the feel of the car in general is more important.

[HardKnox]

I don't mean to sounds blunt, but is this based on personal experience or theoretical speculation?

I'm just a little bummed that I bought a car while bragging to my friends how it's quicker than any stock BMW/BENZ under $45k, when it's turning out in reality VW's 0-60 numbers for our MANUAL Golf R's are almost a second off.

^ Don't get me wrong I still love the car and I'm super happy with my decision all else considered, just feel a bit had for getting a 6.3-6.6 second car when I thought I was buying a 5.6-5.8 second car.

Especially when an older Honda Accord coupe walks you at a stoplight...

[ThatVdub]

Especially when an older Honda Accord coupe walks you at a stoplight...

I killed those in my MK4 R32.

[imluckynotgood]

Who cares? 0-60 is of overrated importance. As long as it's below 7 seconds, the feel of the car in general is more important.

My reason for posting isn't because 0-60 times is an all important statistic, I'm just curious. I appreciate the objective responses, and if possible would like to keep subjectivity of what's "really" important in a car kept to a minimum. As I mentioned, I am very happy with the car over-all, including the "general feel". Just inquiring on what real world 0-60 times have been in spite of VW's 5.6 sales pitch..

[.:Ru4dubn¿]

If you bought the car for bragging rights, you bought the wrong car.

Now that that's out of the way.....

0-60 is for racerboiz with pop-collared abercrombie shirts and frosted tips who like to spend hours e-sparring with other mental midgets to determine who is the most douche-tastic.

[Tiguan2011]

I can see where the TS is coming from. If the car can't do 0-60 in 5.7 then the stats shouldn't say it can.

[batman25]

Insideline says:
0-60 (sec): 6.2 (7.8 w/ TC on)
They wont put up a video.

Motorweek claims 5.7 to 60. The video looks like they bog a little off the line.

[DaLeadBull]

Someone of here clocked it at 5.7 0-60 on a stock R.

The reason why you're seeing different numbers is because this is a manual and the launch depends heavily on the driver.

I would say mid 5's should be possible on a stock R. 5.7 seems about right.

[imluckynotgood]

I guess I'll just have to go out and try for myself! I'm still new to a lot of this stuff, as my last vehicle was a lifted Jeep Wrangler (no 0-60 conversation there ).

What is a good product/software to accurately time 1/4 mile runs and 0-60's? Typical price range?

Thanks again everyone for the constructive input!

[_leo_]

it all comes down to the driver, where they shift how they shift, how they launch.

the transmission on these cars in my opinion is where they are lacking, first gear stinks to high hell and second gear is not much better, they are too short in my opinion and there is no time spent in the engines powerband.

the best power is placed at abotu 2500-6000 rmp and from a launch by the time you take off you're already losing power then have to shift and the same thing happens untill you're in third gear and you have a little bit more time in the powerband.

personally if i was tracking my R i would want to try and swap out the final gear ratios to about 3.6:1 and an equivalent reduction to final drive II ratio.

the fly wheel is also pretty heavy and the RPMs sort of float there rather then accelerate and deccelerate quickly

[watsonj0]

I agree with what Leo says, I have found 5K the ideal for me launch RPM. The dual mass flywheel sucks for me I can not wait to get a single mass setup.

[BRSomm]

I guess I'll just have to go out and try for myself! I'm still new to a lot of this stuff, as my last vehicle was a lifted Jeep Wrangler (no 0-60 conversation there ).

What is a good product/software to accurately time 1/4 mile runs and 0-60's? Typical price range?

Thanks again everyone for the constructive input!

I bought the P3Cars.com gauge and was delighted to discover that it had a 0-60 timer. I was initially worried that it would time me to the displayed 60 (5% high) and give me an artificially low time, but I found out that it has an actual speedometer function as well that reads accurately, so no reason to worry anymore.

[Rance]

Please note that automags, and probably VW, omit the time of the first 12" rollout in their 0-60 times. It's very common and explains why they're often 0.3sec faster.

[Lamfalus]

Please note that automags, and probably VW, omit the time of the first 12" rollout in their 0-60 times. It's very common and explains why they're often 0.3sec faster.

Car & Driver also adjusts the number for 0 ft. sea level and may even compensate for temperature/humidity. So many factors here. They also don't care about toasting a clutch so will drop it at 5k+ if it helps.

To answer the question have I done it myself? No, haven't even bothered. If VW says 5.7s, I have no reason to doubt it. A DSG car can do < 5.7s as someone else said so the 5.7 for manual makes sense.

[Atl-Atl]

When I went to the drag strip a few months ago I was able to tick off a 13.95 which is in line with the fastest the magazines have gotten. I do not know my 0-60 because drag strips aren't concerned with that however on my 13.95 run my 330ft time was 5.829. It does not say mph but I bet I was somewhere near 60mph on that one, maybe even a little faster. Slip is below.

edit: Here is my original post after going to the strip. From my first run until my fastest I cut 7 tenths purely on learning the vehicle/driving technique.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...e-quarter-mile

[pcp999]

Has The Stig taken the R out for a spin yet? That would be pretty awesome.

[Jay07GLI]

I've only done 1 run with my P3 digital. 6.11 with an APR stage 1, Carbonio intake, and HPA dogbone mount. Launch wasn't that great and probably stayed in first a little too long and road was slightly uphill. Also was pretty late at night so road was cool. Will be doing another run soon and hopefully will be at least in the 5.8 range. I've been pulled over twice in the car already so I'm a bit gun shy cuz the next time I'm definitely getting a ticket.

I'm also a bit disappointed. I didn't know VW was quoting a car with DSG since it wasnt offered here. I thought I would be around the 5.1-5.2 range. I still love the car and know speed isn't everything but VW's marketing materials sure make you think the car is faster than it really is

[Atl-Atl]

Has The Stig taken the R out for a spin yet? That would be pretty awesome.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/sti...limb-vw-golf-r

[batman25]

Off subject but I have watching a few reviews and damn that soundakor is soo loud!

[Rebellionelite]

Guys, the launch is critical in our cars, and no you don't need to drop the clutch at 5K to get a good launch in these cars. However, you do have to sacrifice clutch, if you don't smell you clutch burning. You didn't launch properly. Period.

Take the car to 3.5K and let the clutch slip as you hammer the gas, it won't smell good, but its the only proper way to launch a AWD car.

My buddy is an STI owner and will tell you, the only way to launch his car properly is to sacrifice the clutch. Anyone on IWSTI will tell you that.

[BRSomm]

Guys, the launch is critical in our cars, and no you don't need to drop the clutch at 5K to get a good launch in these cars. However, you do have to sacrifice clutch, if you don't smell you clutch burning. You didn't launch properly. Period.

Take the car to 3.5K and let the clutch slip as you hammer the gas, it won't smell good, but its the only proper way to launch a AWD car.

My buddy is an STI owner and will tell you, the only way to launch his car properly is to sacrifice the clutch. Anyone on IWSTI will tell you that.

I choose not to sacrifice my clutch for drag strip bragging rights. I have too much fun on a road coarse to bother with that.

[Rebellionelite]

I choose not to sacrifice my clutch for drag strip bragging rights. I have too much fun on a road coarse to bother with that.

I am in agreement with you sir, but people that want to achieve that amazing 0-60 time need to understand how to launch these cars.

[John@Roc-Euro]

When I was at the dyno the other day, they let me give the 0-60 feature a go. It's supposed to be accurate but who the hell knows. I got 5.2s with stage II+. To be honest, that's gotta be close or high.. I did a quick, jaunt against a stg II B8 S4 and it was very close. He bogged the launch a little and I naaaaailed it, but I was a car length ahead evenly almost the whole time. That 0-60 is 5 or less for sure, with some 4.4s kicking around there.

[Rebellionelite]

When I was at the dyno the other day, they let me give the 0-60 feature a go. It's supposed to be accurate but who the hell knows. I got 5.2s with stage II+. To be honest, that's gotta be close or high.. I did a quick, jaunt against a stg II B8 S4 and it was very close. He bogged the launch a little and I naaaaailed it, but I was a car length ahead evenly almost the whole time. That 0-60 is 5 or less for sure, with some 4.4s kicking around there.

Could you smell your clutch?

[John@Roc-Euro]

Could you smell your clutch?

Didn't slip it, dumped it. Burn rubber not clutch

VW replaced my clutch when it began to slip in 5th/6th, said it looked fine asides from a well-tempered pressure plate.

[Rebellionelite]

Haha, thats the advantage of Stage 2+? Next year for me. If your replacement clutch starts slipping, create another post stating how long it lasted. Was the new clutch different than the first one?