Being euro-market only, I haven't sat in them, so I can only relay what has been said in reviews and ad materials. You can see that the upper portion of the Recaro rear seat has some slight increase in bolster compared to the non-Recaro rear seat, and the bottoms aren't much improved from appearances. I personally think they would not be significant enough to even bother consider how well they truly hold occupants under aggressive driving... nothing is as good as a legit bucket. But I would think those bolsters might be welcome during longer road journeys. IDK.
Despite how it may look, the front center most portion of the lower does not extend as it does on the euro Recaros. Damn'd if I know why they didn't/couldn't... NHTSA requirements maybe? US patent infringement issues for Recaro USA? IDK. In any case, you can bet someone will eventually import and convert their NA market ST.
How different is the lighting arrangement in the ST? Is it getting the european market head and taillamps (led and hid)? If they do, I will keep an eye on the local salvage yards for swaps onto my car. Some idiot is to wrap one around a tree.
(waiting for the usual Jalopnik "first wrecked ST" thread)
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Awesome. Thats pretty close to Euro spec lighting, with very minor differences. I could do without the LED strip eyelid but definitely want projectors. The reflector style headlamps in the 2012 Focus is pretty decent in pattern but not impressive in projecting light down the street.
They are fun to drive for what they are, already drove an ST2, really liked it. I love the idea of a German Ford. I'll need to see and drive an Oxford White ST3 before making a final decision.
About the GTI, owned an MKVI, loved it. Would do a Golf R or see what the MKVII is shaping up to be in the US market. Not in a hurry here...
2011 328xiT/6 - 1999 M3/2/5 - 2000 323iT/5
Ford’s new Focus ST is a starship amongst suborbital dinghies. It backs up its sci-fi looks with an EcoBoost engine that shreds time and space. It dominated every performance category in this test except observed fuel economy, and did so in a way that’s both confident and entertaining. This is the new highperformance standard against which any other mass-produced car with a 4-cylinder engine will be judged.
Stage 2 – Performance GTI: Those choosing a Golf GTI with the performance pack ignite the second stage. As mentioned, the car’s power is increased by 7 HP here, while its maximum torque is identical. The 227 HP of power enables a top speed of 250 km/h* (155 mph) and just 6.5 seconds for the sprint to 100 km/h (62 mph).
The performance pack not only offers a plus in power, but also a plus in handling: instead of 16-inch brakes, the GTI is equipped with 17-inch brakes here (with GTI badges on the callipers) and a front axle differential lock (VAQ) that is also being offered for the first time in this form.
Front axle differential lock. The electronically controlled lock has a positive effect on active safety and driving dynamics, because it practically prevents the power-related understeer that can occur in powerful front-wheel drive cars. This makes handling precise, and has a stabilising effect in load-alteration induced oversteer. The reason: VAQ increases the power to the wheel on the outside of the curve, which also optimises the vehicle’s speed through bends. Traction is also improved when driving on loose and wet road surfaces and in turning situations.
Either way with ford, mazda & vw battling for top hot hatch we all win, just gotta pick the right platform for you. I'm a hardcore vw guy so I'm leaning hard towards the gti/next gen R, but the focus has me swayed atm. I'll keep daydreaming for the next year or two
My dad loves Ford, and im partial to them. If i buy american, it would be Ford.
Only thing w Ford, is the resale value. Not sure how new Fords will hold out, but previous car dropped so much so fast.
I guess we will see how these do in actual performance and reliability plus resale.
Another thing, my dads 2004 Ford has more rust them my 83 VW. I hope they fixed this in newer cars.
PS I love competition. Car companies are trying to up one another
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This is ridiculous, hysterical, and awesome all at the same time... Esquire named the Focus ST as their Car of the Year: http://www.esquire.com/features/cars...ain_sr#slide-2
I drove one tonight. The clutch was a little weird to me...it seems a bit too far to the right and the angle seems very steep. This might have been remedied by adjusting seating, but I was too busy listening to the awesome engine note. I was able to test drive the car all alone, and was told to "just keep it on four wheels", but I didn't beat on it, as the road I was on was 45 mph and it was pretty busy.
I was in a Package 2 or whatever with the recaros. They are very supportive, but I have a pretty wide back and I felt like I couldn't really sink in like I did in the FR-S. I think this would also improve over time.
Seeing as I like to lease, and they do not appear to offer one, I didn't really entertain running numbers, but this car is a serious contender and I would own one without a doubt. This thing pulls hard...and right now.