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      10-09-2012 10:15 PM #276
      Quote Originally Posted by MKV Aaron View Post
      FYI, the 2013 GTI/GLI has defeatable ESP. Just clarifying wrong info posted above.
      Fully off, or off until it comes back on because it doesn't like what you did kinda off? BTW, doesn't it gets that electronic parking brake?
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      10-09-2012 10:26 PM #277
      i like the outside, but when i sat in one, it just felt cheap to me .

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      10-09-2012 10:47 PM #278
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      i like the outside, but when i sat in one, it just felt cheap to me .
      Really? Did it have the Recaros? If not, the base model interior is a bit more modest compared to the upgrades of the ST2 and ST3, especially if it didn't have the larger 7" screen for the nav upgrade.
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      10-10-2012 12:19 AM #279
      Looking at the inferior pics, I just can't stomach the color inserts in the seats. Looks very cheap and ebayish to me.
      Black on black please
      "Your pants too tight,your wheels too bright"

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      10-10-2012 07:45 AM #280
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
      Looking at the inferior pics, I just can't stomach the color inserts in the seats. Looks very cheap and ebayish to me.
      Black on black please
      They do look better in person, but yeah, that's a popular criticism. I will say that the "Smoke Storm" grey inserts are pretty conservative and not at all objectionable. It is neat that you can order whatever inserts with whatever exterior color you want... Race Red exterior with Tangerine Sceam interior anyone?
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      10-10-2012 01:16 PM #281
      The all black recaro's are a win I've been checking out some you tube clips of exhaust notes. This thing sounds good with the borla & milltek. I would def do a 3" tbe every gti I owned has got one I believe in letting a turbo'd car breathe.
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      10-10-2012 06:47 PM #282
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      They do look better in person, but yeah, that's a popular criticism. I will say that the "Smoke Storm" grey inserts are pretty conservative and not at all objectionable. It is neat that you can order whatever inserts with whatever exterior color you want... Race Red exterior with Tangerine Sceam interior anyone?
      Yup, the ST2 i sat in was blue exterior, and had the grey seat inserts, and my wife and i both thought they looked really good. And the interior of the ST2 does look much better than the ST1 because of the display.

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      10-10-2012 08:05 PM #283
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Really? Did it have the Recaros? If not, the base model interior is a bit more modest compared to the upgrades of the ST2 and ST3, especially if it didn't have the larger 7" screen for the nav upgrade.
      it may have been the base model. I thought the Focus would have the fully MyTouch dash...even the gauges and stuff.

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      10-10-2012 08:14 PM #284
      Buddy went to test drive one of these. Ford dealer no test drives on any vehice. He ended up with a Mazdaspeed 3.

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      10-10-2012 08:56 PM #285
      Checked out an ST2 at the dealership today while getting a key cut during lunch. Fffffuuuuuuu I wish I didn't have student loans to pay down
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      10-10-2012 09:17 PM #286
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      it may have been the base model. I thought the Focus would have the fully MyTouch dash...even the gauges and stuff.
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

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      10-10-2012 09:18 PM #287
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      Needs more plastic

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      10-10-2012 09:51 PM #288
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleBens View Post
      Needs more plastic
      Maybe just a little more... there's still too much windshield showing, right? lol

      On a serious note, the dash, upper door panels, and all that stuff have a nice soft-touch quality to them, but there is a lot of hard plastic in that center stack. The button array on that dash is pretty out of hand though... this is one of the places that VW has always excelled comparatively.
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      10-10-2012 10:35 PM #289
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleBens View Post
      Needs more plastic
      Actually those plastics do have a better feel than any of the Asian competitors such as toyota and hunda

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      10-10-2012 10:37 PM #290
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Actually those plastics do have a better feel than any of the Asian competitors such as toyota and hunda
      Still looks like a mass of plastic..

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      10-10-2012 10:41 PM #291
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Maybe just a little more... there's still too much windshield showing, right? lol

      On a serious note, the dash, upper door panels, and all that stuff have a nice soft-touch quality to them, but there is a lot of hard plastic in that center stack. The button array on that dash is pretty out of hand though... this is one of the places that VW has always excelled comparatively.
      As long as the upper dash surround is soft touch then the ST has no more hard plastics than the GTI.
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      10-10-2012 10:42 PM #292
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      i like the outside, but when i sat in one, it just felt cheap to me .
      What about it felt 'cheap'? The top line model felt fine for $30K.

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      10-10-2012 10:44 PM #293
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      As long as the upper dash surround is soft touch then the ST has no more hard plastics than the GTI.
      Who is comparing it to the GTI?

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      10-10-2012 10:49 PM #294
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      Who is comparing it to the GTI?
      Maybe just a little more... there's still too much windshield showing, right? lol

      On a serious note, the dash, upper door panels, and all that stuff have a nice soft-touch quality to them, but there is a lot of hard plastic in that center stack. The button array on that dash is pretty out of hand though... this is one of the places that VW has always excelled comparatively.
      There.
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      10-10-2012 10:53 PM #295
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      There.
      The button array? Please, sell your GTI so the bitching will end.

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      10-10-2012 11:01 PM #296
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      The button array? Please, sell your GTI so the bitching will end.
      Your BMW matches your attitude.

      Got a problem with me bringing up a direct ST competitor?
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      10-10-2012 11:09 PM #297
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Your BMW matches your attitude.

      Got a problem with me bringing up a direct ST competitor?
      90% of your posts are the same tired content.. move on already.

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      10-10-2012 11:10 PM #298
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      90% of your posts are the same tired content.. move on already.
      I'm glad you felt compelled to point that out
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      10-11-2012 05:58 AM #299
      the GTI/R kinda disappoints me in the center console area. the "high end" nav is no where near the screen size of the ST or last gen MKV. it's cheaper.
      girls dig when i play with the V

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      10-11-2012 06:27 AM #300
      I went to go look at the new fusion and St in person the other day and they are both very nice. I like the St a lot, especially the Recaro seats and larger mytouch screen. However they had a $5k market adjustment markup that the sales person said was non-negotiable.
      If your car feels like it's on rails, then you're going too slow.

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