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      10-10-2012 02:16 PM #281
      The all black recaro's are a win I've been checking out some you tube clips of exhaust notes. This thing sounds good with the borla & milltek. I would def do a 3" tbe every gti I owned has got one I believe in letting a turbo'd car breathe.
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      10-10-2012 07:47 PM #282
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      They do look better in person, but yeah, that's a popular criticism. I will say that the "Smoke Storm" grey inserts are pretty conservative and not at all objectionable. It is neat that you can order whatever inserts with whatever exterior color you want... Race Red exterior with Tangerine Sceam interior anyone?
      Yup, the ST2 i sat in was blue exterior, and had the grey seat inserts, and my wife and i both thought they looked really good. And the interior of the ST2 does look much better than the ST1 because of the display.

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      10-10-2012 09:05 PM #283
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Really? Did it have the Recaros? If not, the base model interior is a bit more modest compared to the upgrades of the ST2 and ST3, especially if it didn't have the larger 7" screen for the nav upgrade.
      it may have been the base model. I thought the Focus would have the fully MyTouch dash...even the gauges and stuff.

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      10-10-2012 09:14 PM #284
      Buddy went to test drive one of these. Ford dealer no test drives on any vehice. He ended up with a Mazdaspeed 3.

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      10-10-2012 09:56 PM #285
      Checked out an ST2 at the dealership today while getting a key cut during lunch. Fffffuuuuuuu I wish I didn't have student loans to pay down
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      10-10-2012 10:17 PM #286
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      it may have been the base model. I thought the Focus would have the fully MyTouch dash...even the gauges and stuff.
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

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      10-10-2012 10:18 PM #287
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      Needs more plastic

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      10-10-2012 10:51 PM #288
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleBens View Post
      Needs more plastic
      Maybe just a little more... there's still too much windshield showing, right? lol

      On a serious note, the dash, upper door panels, and all that stuff have a nice soft-touch quality to them, but there is a lot of hard plastic in that center stack. The button array on that dash is pretty out of hand though... this is one of the places that VW has always excelled comparatively.
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      10-10-2012 11:35 PM #289
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleBens View Post
      Needs more plastic
      Actually those plastics do have a better feel than any of the Asian competitors such as toyota and hunda

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      10-10-2012 11:37 PM #290
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Actually those plastics do have a better feel than any of the Asian competitors such as toyota and hunda
      Still looks like a mass of plastic..

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      10-10-2012 11:41 PM #291
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Maybe just a little more... there's still too much windshield showing, right? lol

      On a serious note, the dash, upper door panels, and all that stuff have a nice soft-touch quality to them, but there is a lot of hard plastic in that center stack. The button array on that dash is pretty out of hand though... this is one of the places that VW has always excelled comparatively.
      As long as the upper dash surround is soft touch then the ST has no more hard plastics than the GTI.
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      10-10-2012 11:42 PM #292
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      i like the outside, but when i sat in one, it just felt cheap to me .
      What about it felt 'cheap'? The top line model felt fine for $30K.

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      10-10-2012 11:44 PM #293
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      As long as the upper dash surround is soft touch then the ST has no more hard plastics than the GTI.
      Who is comparing it to the GTI?

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      10-10-2012 11:49 PM #294
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      Who is comparing it to the GTI?
      Maybe just a little more... there's still too much windshield showing, right? lol

      On a serious note, the dash, upper door panels, and all that stuff have a nice soft-touch quality to them, but there is a lot of hard plastic in that center stack. The button array on that dash is pretty out of hand though... this is one of the places that VW has always excelled comparatively.
      There.
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      10-10-2012 11:53 PM #295
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      There.
      The button array? Please, sell your GTI so the bitching will end.

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      10-11-2012 12:01 AM #296
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      The button array? Please, sell your GTI so the bitching will end.
      Your BMW matches your attitude.

      Got a problem with me bringing up a direct ST competitor?
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      10-11-2012 12:09 AM #297
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Your BMW matches your attitude.

      Got a problem with me bringing up a direct ST competitor?
      90% of your posts are the same tired content.. move on already.

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      10-11-2012 12:10 AM #298
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      90% of your posts are the same tired content.. move on already.
      I'm glad you felt compelled to point that out
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      10-11-2012 06:58 AM #299
      the GTI/R kinda disappoints me in the center console area. the "high end" nav is no where near the screen size of the ST or last gen MKV. it's cheaper.
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      10-11-2012 07:27 AM #300
      I went to go look at the new fusion and St in person the other day and they are both very nice. I like the St a lot, especially the Recaro seats and larger mytouch screen. However they had a $5k market adjustment markup that the sales person said was non-negotiable.
      "If your car 'feels like it's on rails,' then you're going too slow."

    21. 10-11-2012 07:45 AM #301
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      That just looks like ass... It might even take the cake from the base Mustang.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 07:47 AM #302
      dude no way that dash is straight outta Independence Day mannnn
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      10-11-2012 08:53 AM #303
      Coming from a Focus owner with that center stack - It's really not that bad. I don't even use it much, as Sync takes care of everything. It looks good lit up at night too.

      I also love buttons. So there's that.
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      10-11-2012 09:19 AM #304
      Summing this thread up:

      - Focus ST's don't cost $34k

      - If you have $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy an Evo.

      - If you have less than $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy a used Evo.


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      10-11-2012 09:26 AM #305
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      You dont want the touch system. Read up on it. Its terrible. This is a much better system.

      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      As long as the upper dash surround is soft touch then the ST has no more hard plastics than the GTI.
      The dash is soft touch so dont worry your VW loving head.

      Quote Originally Posted by CWDave View Post
      Coming from a Focus owner with that center stack - It's really not that bad. I don't even use it much, as Sync takes care of everything. It looks good lit up at night too.

      I also love buttons. So there's that.
      I do too. I spent time with the touch system and its frustrating to say the least. I also like the buttons. What people fail to comprehend is that you can control all of your electronics through the Sync system. USB, aux, and phone can all be controlled through this stack. I often dial numbers through the stack. When I get in the car, the first thing I do is throw my phone into the glove box.

    26. 10-11-2012 10:01 AM #306
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      You dont want the touch system. Read up on it. Its terrible. This is a much better system.



      The dash is soft touch so dont worry your VW loving head.



      I do too. I spent time with the touch system and its frustrating to say the least. I also like the buttons. What people fail to comprehend is that you can control all of your electronics through the Sync system. USB, aux, and phone can all be controlled through this stack. I often dial numbers through the stack. When I get in the car, the first thing I do is throw my phone into the glove box.
      I still would rather have the option of an aftermarket headunit that does the same thing for $130, and doesn't look like the plastic dash of crap.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 10:09 AM #307
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      I still would rather have the option of an aftermarket headunit that does the same thing for $130, and doesn't look like the plastic dash of crap.
      As audio and electronics integration becomes more and more common, youre going to have a tough time with that one. If you get the tough system, you wont be able to do that either. Not to mention that by swapping this stuff out, you are going to be losing the Sync system, which is a huge selling point.

    28. 10-11-2012 10:27 AM #308
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      As audio and electronics integration becomes more and more common, youre going to have a tough time with that one. If you get the tough system, you wont be able to do that either. Not to mention that by swapping this stuff out, you are going to be losing the Sync system, which is a huge selling point.
      Right, because no other manufacture has managed to integrate, phone, usb and ipod controls into their oem units and not make it look like spaceship crap, Sync is just that good....

      Like I said give me an aftermarket headunit over this plastic dash of crap.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 10:41 AM #309
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      Like I said give me an aftermarket headunit over this plastic dash of crap.
      Because nothing says "style" and "design" like a rectangular radio awkwardly crammed into the dash, covered in tiny chiclet buttons and a cheesy animated 14-segment LCD display.
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      10-11-2012 10:45 AM #310
      I actually like the upgraded head unit on the higher range models the screen is a lot bigger and it has a different button layout. I'd never buy that base crap.
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    31. 10-11-2012 11:08 AM #311
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      Because nothing says "style" and "design" like a rectangular radio awkwardly crammed into the dash, covered in tiny chiclet buttons and a cheesy animated 14-segment LCD display.
      I honestly would rather look at this, than a giant mound of plastic crap.



      Not to mention, other oem units look better than Ford's.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 12:26 PM #312
      Quote Originally Posted by Wanganrunner View Post
      Summing this thread up:

      - Focus ST's don't cost $34k

      - If you have $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy an Evo.

      - If you have less than $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy a used Evo.


      ~fin~


      P.S. Dash plastic discussions are for sandy vaginas. I'm going to go drive my Mustang now.
      You forgot that the GTI is better only because the back seats have 2" more leg room. Everything else the ST does better

    33. 10-11-2012 12:29 PM #313
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Actually those plastics do have a better feel than any of the Asian competitors such as toyota and hunda
      uh no! its still a tik-tok sounding plastic...

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      10-11-2012 01:01 PM #314
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      I honestly would rather look at this, than a giant mound of plastic crap.

      Not to mention, other oem units look better than Ford's.
      The stack fits the rest of the interior IMO. It took a few weeks for me to fully warm up to it, but it works well aesthetically and ergonomically.

      It sounds like you're more predisposed to either as conservative of style as possible, or are missing the point that this level of new-age styling is in a BUDGET LEVEL FOCUS.

      Let's take a look at other budget model OEM stacks, shall we?

      Corolla:

      Wow. About as drab as you can get. Based on looks alone, it wouldn't surprise me that the only audio that comes out of this thing is a funeral dirge or the Best of Television Static compilation. Functional? Yes. Stylish? Sure, if you consider a wooden spoon fashionable. I absolutely love the LCD readout they stole from an old Texas Instruments calculator.

      Civic:

      Wait, that's it? That's the radio? I have more options on my blender. It looks like they took this from a piece of **** shelf stereo you bought for $44.99 at Walmart. Don't go too crazy Honda! You don't want to have people think your cars are edgy and stylish! Oh wait, you already have that god-awful tach cluster..

      Golf:

      The ****, VW? Did you steal this idea from those Zony cassette/CD player radios you get as door prizes at the local bingo hall? Did you do this on purpose to get people to upgrade packages? I love the Indiglo readout though. Very 1990's.

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      HAHAHAahahah.. ahhh.. Woo.. oh.. OHHH... That IS your radio? ****, sorry..
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      10-11-2012 01:02 PM #315
      Quote Originally Posted by above8k View Post
      uh no! its still a tik-tok sounding plastic...
      It needs to be. Plastic that gets touched often shouldnt be fancy honestly. YOu ever seen the fancy coating VW puts on their switches and knobs after a year or two of interaction? Its peeling and falling apart.

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