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    Thread: 2013 Focus ST, worth it?

    1. 10-11-2012 06:45 AM #301
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      That just looks like ass... It might even take the cake from the base Mustang.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 06:47 AM #302
      dude no way that dash is straight outta Independence Day mannnn
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    3. 10-11-2012 07:53 AM #303
      Coming from a Focus owner with that center stack - It's really not that bad. I don't even use it much, as Sync takes care of everything. It looks good lit up at night too.

      I also love buttons. So there's that.
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      10-11-2012 08:19 AM #304
      Summing this thread up:

      - Focus ST's don't cost $34k

      - If you have $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy an Evo.

      - If you have less than $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy a used Evo.


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      10-11-2012 08:26 AM #305
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      You dont want the touch system. Read up on it. Its terrible. This is a much better system.

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      As long as the upper dash surround is soft touch then the ST has no more hard plastics than the GTI.
      The dash is soft touch so dont worry your VW loving head.

      Quote Originally Posted by CWDave View Post
      Coming from a Focus owner with that center stack - It's really not that bad. I don't even use it much, as Sync takes care of everything. It looks good lit up at night too.

      I also love buttons. So there's that.
      I do too. I spent time with the touch system and its frustrating to say the least. I also like the buttons. What people fail to comprehend is that you can control all of your electronics through the Sync system. USB, aux, and phone can all be controlled through this stack. I often dial numbers through the stack. When I get in the car, the first thing I do is throw my phone into the glove box.
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    6. 10-11-2012 09:01 AM #306
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      You dont want the touch system. Read up on it. Its terrible. This is a much better system.



      The dash is soft touch so dont worry your VW loving head.



      I do too. I spent time with the touch system and its frustrating to say the least. I also like the buttons. What people fail to comprehend is that you can control all of your electronics through the Sync system. USB, aux, and phone can all be controlled through this stack. I often dial numbers through the stack. When I get in the car, the first thing I do is throw my phone into the glove box.
      I still would rather have the option of an aftermarket headunit that does the same thing for $130, and doesn't look like the plastic dash of crap.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 09:09 AM #307
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      I still would rather have the option of an aftermarket headunit that does the same thing for $130, and doesn't look like the plastic dash of crap.
      As audio and electronics integration becomes more and more common, youre going to have a tough time with that one. If you get the tough system, you wont be able to do that either. Not to mention that by swapping this stuff out, you are going to be losing the Sync system, which is a huge selling point.
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    8. 10-11-2012 09:27 AM #308
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      As audio and electronics integration becomes more and more common, youre going to have a tough time with that one. If you get the tough system, you wont be able to do that either. Not to mention that by swapping this stuff out, you are going to be losing the Sync system, which is a huge selling point.
      Right, because no other manufacture has managed to integrate, phone, usb and ipod controls into their oem units and not make it look like spaceship crap, Sync is just that good....

      Like I said give me an aftermarket headunit over this plastic dash of crap.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 09:41 AM #309
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      Like I said give me an aftermarket headunit over this plastic dash of crap.
      Because nothing says "style" and "design" like a rectangular radio awkwardly crammed into the dash, covered in tiny chiclet buttons and a cheesy animated 14-segment LCD display.
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      10-11-2012 09:45 AM #310
      I actually like the upgraded head unit on the higher range models the screen is a lot bigger and it has a different button layout. I'd never buy that base crap.
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    11. 10-11-2012 10:08 AM #311
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      Because nothing says "style" and "design" like a rectangular radio awkwardly crammed into the dash, covered in tiny chiclet buttons and a cheesy animated 14-segment LCD display.
      I honestly would rather look at this, than a giant mound of plastic crap.



      Not to mention, other oem units look better than Ford's.
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      I'm more amused by the scientific formulas people bring up to justify why a BRZ lost to a Megane. Like really? All that college education you paid for and a BRZ is that important to you to go into some asinine explanation about how it's still a good track car?

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      10-11-2012 11:26 AM #312
      Quote Originally Posted by Wanganrunner View Post
      Summing this thread up:

      - Focus ST's don't cost $34k

      - If you have $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy an Evo.

      - If you have less than $34k and you want a turbo AWD car, you should buy a used Evo.


      ~fin~


      P.S. Dash plastic discussions are for sandy vaginas. I'm going to go drive my Mustang now.
      You forgot that the GTI is better only because the back seats have 2" more leg room. Everything else the ST does better

    13. 10-11-2012 11:29 AM #313
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Actually those plastics do have a better feel than any of the Asian competitors such as toyota and hunda
      uh no! its still a tik-tok sounding plastic...

    14. 10-11-2012 12:01 PM #314
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      I honestly would rather look at this, than a giant mound of plastic crap.

      Not to mention, other oem units look better than Ford's.
      The stack fits the rest of the interior IMO. It took a few weeks for me to fully warm up to it, but it works well aesthetically and ergonomically.

      It sounds like you're more predisposed to either as conservative of style as possible, or are missing the point that this level of new-age styling is in a BUDGET LEVEL FOCUS.

      Let's take a look at other budget model OEM stacks, shall we?

      Corolla:

      Wow. About as drab as you can get. Based on looks alone, it wouldn't surprise me that the only audio that comes out of this thing is a funeral dirge or the Best of Television Static compilation. Functional? Yes. Stylish? Sure, if you consider a wooden spoon fashionable. I absolutely love the LCD readout they stole from an old Texas Instruments calculator.

      Civic:

      Wait, that's it? That's the radio? I have more options on my blender. It looks like they took this from a piece of **** shelf stereo you bought for $44.99 at Walmart. Don't go too crazy Honda! You don't want to have people think your cars are edgy and stylish! Oh wait, you already have that god-awful tach cluster..

      Golf:

      The ****, VW? Did you steal this idea from those Zony cassette/CD player radios you get as door prizes at the local bingo hall? Did you do this on purpose to get people to upgrade packages? I love the Indiglo readout though. Very 1990's.

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      HAHAHAahahah.. ahhh.. Woo.. oh.. OHHH... That IS your radio? ****, sorry..
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      10-11-2012 12:02 PM #315
      Quote Originally Posted by above8k View Post
      uh no! its still a tik-tok sounding plastic...
      It needs to be. Plastic that gets touched often shouldnt be fancy honestly. YOu ever seen the fancy coating VW puts on their switches and knobs after a year or two of interaction? Its peeling and falling apart.
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      10-11-2012 12:10 PM #316
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      It needs to be. Plastic that gets touched often shouldnt be fancy honestly. YOu ever seen the fancy coating VW puts on their switches and knobs after a year or two of interaction? Its peeling and falling apart.
      Agreed, I test drove an A6 and walked away because of all the peeling buttons. My A4 is not too bad, but the radio tuner knob, and arm rest handle are both peeling. It's like some rubbery paint on the hard plastic, that does not stick to it all that well.
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      10-11-2012 12:28 PM #317
      FWIW, the kia one is my favorite out of the ones pictured. I don't think any of them are particularly bad. The honda one looks cheap though.

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      10-11-2012 12:38 PM #318
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      No wait...I sat in the model with the screen..so maybe i sat in the ST2 trim.

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      10-11-2012 12:44 PM #319
      Quote Originally Posted by CWDave View Post


      Golf:

      The ****, VW? Did you steal this idea from those Zony cassette/CD player radios you get as door prizes at the local bingo hall? Did you do this on purpose to get people to upgrade packages? I love the Indiglo readout though. Very 1990's.
      This looks different than mine, though maybe that is a GTI thing...


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      10-11-2012 12:58 PM #320
      Quote Originally Posted by above8k View Post
      uh no! its still a tik-tok sounding plastic...
      So in other words, it's durable and hard-wearing, which it should be unless I'm resting my hands on it for any extended period? Gotcha. Cool.
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      10-11-2012 01:00 PM #321
      Did anyone feel like the car was a bit too boy racer?? I dunno...

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      10-11-2012 01:02 PM #322
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      i like the outside, but when i sat in one, it just felt cheap to me .
      Of course it did. It's based on a Focus that starts at $17k, and they spent their ST development dollars on making it go around a corner like a molested macaque. The interior is fine for a hot hatch. And not to put too fine a point on it, this is an economy hatch with a hilarious engine and a suspension tune, not a 3-series.

      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      Did anyone feel like the car was a bit too boy racer?? I dunno...
      I've seen a couple. It was fairly extroverted, yeah. But then, this is an age of extroverted styling. It's certainly no more ornamented than your average BMW.
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    23. 10-11-2012 01:14 PM #323
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      I've seen a couple. It was fairly extroverted, yeah. But then, this is an age of extroverted styling. It's certainly no more ornamented than your average BMW.
      Black mutes a lot of the boy-racer features. Makes the maw look more appealing too. (Darth Vader-esque?) Suppose I should call it the MazdaSpeed3 Effect.

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      10-11-2012 02:11 PM #324
      It looks pretty boy racer in a visible color like blue IMO. It's a bit incompatible with the image I wish to portray. But holy hell it was a ton of fun to drive. Almost addictive. Could one get over the boy racer vibe? probably.

      I'm in my 30s and prefer the GTI's relative plain-ness. Especially the interior. But I'm an odd duck so YMMV

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      10-11-2012 02:17 PM #325
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      No wait...I sat in the model with the screen..so maybe i sat in the ST2 trim.
      Was this the one? I think they're is another screen above base? but if I pull the plug on this it will def be with the ST3 package. The larger my touch screens also eliminates alot of the cheesy buttons/plastic vibe imo
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