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      10-12-2012 11:57 PM #351
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Picking my ST up tomorrow at the dealer
      Congrats! I can't say I am not envious. Enjoy it

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      10-13-2012 12:03 AM #352
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Picking my ST up tomorrow at the dealer
      Congratulations! Pre-order or dealer stock purchase?
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      10-13-2012 01:01 AM #353
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Congratulations! Pre-order or dealer stock purchase?
      Pre order.. i placed the order in may 9th

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      10-13-2012 02:44 AM #354
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Pre order.. i placed the order in may 9th
      Same here. My ST3 was built last week, but as of today it still hadn't left the factory. So do me a favor and enjoy it a little extra for me.
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      10-13-2012 08:41 AM #355
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Same here. My ST3 was built last week, but as of today it still hadn't left the factory. So do me a favor and enjoy it a little extra for me.
      Are you sure or they just haven't updated the tracking , when i sent an e-mail to Natasha on Tuesday she said it still at the plant and no EtA but my car arrived yesterday

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      10-13-2012 09:04 AM #356
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Picking my ST up tomorrow at the dealer
      Congrats...please post a ton of pics!

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      10-13-2012 12:12 PM #357
      Can someone explain the exact lighting we're getting on the focus? Is it HID's? LED DRL's??

      This is a huge selling feature for me.

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      10-13-2012 12:13 PM #358
      Quote Originally Posted by Spray` View Post
      Can someone explain the exact lighting we're getting on the focus? Is it HID's? LED DRL's??

      This is a huge selling feature for me.
      But what about the hatch hinge technology?
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      10-13-2012 12:37 PM #359
      Quote Originally Posted by Spray` View Post
      Can someone explain the exact lighting we're getting on the focus? Is it HID's? LED DRL's??

      This is a huge selling feature for me.
      I'm pretty sure standard lights are halogen with LED HID upgrade available
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      10-13-2012 12:50 PM #360
      Quote Originally Posted by 90Foxbox View Post

      Quote Originally Posted by Spray` View Post
      Can someone explain the exact lighting we're getting on the focus? Is it HID's? LED DRL's??

      This is a huge selling feature for me.
      The lights your looking for are on the st3 package you get a led drl eyebrow and hid main light. Def the best way to go IMO.
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      10-13-2012 12:55 PM #361
      I spotted one on the freeway yesterday in that yellow mustard color and it had very strong presence; I have to say that I am impressed with it so far.

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      10-13-2012 01:14 PM #362
      ST1 and ST2 come with pretty standard halogen headlamps. ST3 gets bi-xenon HIDs with LED brow lamps and cornering lamps. OEM HIDs are like $1500-$1700 each, so the ST3 package is pretty nicely equipped for the coin.
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      10-13-2012 02:45 PM #363
      Thanks, we dont have those package designations I dont think in Canada.

      The base model here comes with the HID's for 29,999.
      Recaros are only a $1000 upgrade on top of that.

      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      ST1 and ST2 come with pretty standard halogen headlamps. ST3 gets bi-xenon HIDs with LED brow lamps and cornering lamps. OEM HIDs are like $1500-$1700 each, so the ST3 package is pretty nicely equipped for the coin.

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      10-13-2012 04:26 PM #364
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      I hate to break it to you, but that unit costs $349... It integrates just fine with a double din opening and with steering wheel controls... But once again, only teenage tards at Best Buy would rock such a device. I guess anything with a double din is for rejects

      This reminds me of IW and their defense that people were too stupid to figure out server browsers, car audio isn't hard to figure out, nor is it for teens I would much rather enjoy clarity with better S/N then be stuck with crap.
      $349? Jeez thats a lot of something that will not blend well with the interior at all. Im not sure if your referring to teens is implying that I am one (which I am not) but I am also one that does mind a well integrated and good sounding system.

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      10-13-2012 07:43 PM #365
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      Base gets the same gauge pod and auxiliary gauges, but the center stack is less "techie" and more basic. Looks like this:

      I actually don't mind this center stack. It doesn't look like a luxury vehicle, but its not supposed to. It looks well laid out and well made.
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    16. 10-13-2012 08:14 PM #366
      Or wait for the next RS with 2.3L Turbo 350hp
      http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-for...ferential.html

      Rumors coming out of England indicate that the next generation of Ford's performance-oriented Focus RS will pack as much as 350 horsepower, marking a noticeable increase of about 50 ponies over the last-gen model.

      Power will reportedly come from the 2.3-liter Ecoboost four-cylinder mill that Ford is currently developing to use in the next-gen Mustang. To help eliminate torque steer, the car will likely be equipped with an electronically-controlled active differential, a unit that is similar in concept to the one that will equip the upcoming seventh-gen Volkswagen GTI.

      Len Urwin, the head of Ford's Team RS, told PistonHeads in an interview that fitting the car with an all-wheel drive system is under consideration but it would have to be developed from the ground up because the only all-wheel drive systems that Ford currently has access to are front-biased.

      "[The Haldex-designed all-wheel drive system] is inherently an understeering system," said Urwin. "We would need to do something we could make fun to drive."

      Furthermore, all-wheel drive would add unwanted pounds to the car's weight and unwanted dollars to its base price.

      The Focus RS is expected to make its public debut as a limited-edition model in a year or two. Available only as a five-door hatchback, it will boast a wider track and a rally-inspired body kit.

      While Ford has not confirmed this, rumors indicate that the next-gen Focus RS will be available in the United States for the first time in the model's illustrious history.

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      10-13-2012 09:26 PM #367
      ^^^
      If the st's sell well ford should bring the RS here
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      10-18-2012 06:34 PM #368
      Looks like whiteline & Tanner Foust have teamed up to make a Foust edition ST
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      10-18-2012 08:55 PM #370
      Quote Originally Posted by BUCKWILDVW View Post
      That was awesome
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    21. 10-18-2012 08:58 PM #371
      Haha, that was awesome.
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      I don't give a fk how often I got called a banana slammer, I'd own that in a heartbeat, in addition to the proposed R version.

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      10-18-2012 09:16 PM #372
      I want a ST2... Err!!! I just got my wagon 3 months ago!

      I guess I will wait.
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      10-19-2012 12:31 AM #373
      Quote Originally Posted by panzer 2.3 View Post
      That was awesome
      That was awesome! Haha as a ford tech who has pdi'd a few focus ST's and actually just put a seatbelt in one today that was damaged at the factory I am seriously considering getting rid of my R32 for one, they are great driving vehicles with some good power and feel very planted


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      10-19-2012 12:42 AM #374
      That NFS video is the best ST commercial to date, and I'm saying that even though I'm actually in the Key West ST commercial. Only a video game could pull that off and not catch hell in the big corporate auto industry.
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      10-19-2012 02:34 AM #375
      I checked it out and all they had was an ST2 package, I'm going to wait for an ST3 to come in before I test drive the beast. It looks much bigger than my Golf, esp the trunk space.

      It's a nice ride nonetheless.
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      10-19-2012 08:34 AM #376
      awesome ad. That Corvette took the curb really hard though
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      10-19-2012 08:51 AM #377
      Quote Originally Posted by worked_xr View Post
      ST1 and ST2 come with pretty standard halogen headlamps. ST3 gets bi-xenon HIDs with LED brow lamps and cornering lamps. OEM HIDs are like $1500-$1700 each, so the ST3 package is pretty nicely equipped for the coin.
      With this kind of output from the OEM bi-xenon headlights, I'd say it's hardly worth it.
      Looks like a flashlight through a projector.

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      10-19-2012 09:37 AM #378
      Quote Originally Posted by Spray` View Post
      Thanks, we dont have those package designations I dont think in Canada.

      The base model here comes with the HID's for 29,999.
      Recaros are only a $1000 upgrade on top of that.
      Actually, the full leather Recaros are standard in Canada. The only options are a package that includes the upgraded Sony audio system, MyFordTouch, SiriusXM, and dual zone climate control for $1000; a sunroof for $1,200; and navigation for $700.

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      10-19-2012 10:07 AM #379
      Quote Originally Posted by bWs View Post
      With this kind of output from the OEM bi-xenon headlights, I'd say it's hardly worth it.
      Looks like a flashlight through a projector.
      I'm really at a loss here... you're going to judge light output based on a cell phone camera picture of an interior wall, with a fluorescent light shining directly on it from above?

      Headlights are commodity items. There isn't someone sitting in a basement at Ford reinventing the wheel designing an inferior headlamp. The projector optics and HID capsules are beyond any doubt just standard supplier items, identical to those found on other cars.
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      10-19-2012 10:22 AM #380
      I'm waiting for the new GTI to directly compare the two. Obviously the ST > MKVI GTI, but the MKVII? We shall see!
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      10-19-2012 10:26 AM #381
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      I'm waiting for the new GTI to directly compare the two. Obviously the ST > MKVI GTI, but the MKVII? We shall see!
      I'll save you some time.

      The ST will still outperform the GTI, but VW fanboys will insist that the GTI is more well-rounded and has more soft touch soul-filled interior pieces and hose clamps.

      No need to even start a new thread!

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      10-19-2012 10:34 AM #382
      Quote Originally Posted by Sortafast View Post
      I'll save you some time.

      The ST will still outperform the GTI, but VW fanboys will insist that the GTI is more well-rounded and has more soft touch soul-filled interior pieces and hose clamps.

      No need to even start a new thread!
      You forgot Chris Harris will complain about understeer.
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      10-19-2012 10:51 AM #383
      Quote Originally Posted by Sortafast View Post
      I'll save you some time.

      The ST will still outperform the GTI, but VW fanboys will insist that the GTI is more well-rounded and has more soft touch soul-filled interior pieces and hose clamps.

      No need to even start a new thread!
      Lol. So true.

      Someone please remember to bring this post up when the mk7 GTI comes out and there's a 10 page thread talking about this
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      10-19-2012 11:16 AM #384
      Quote Originally Posted by guru7345 View Post
      More retarded comments from the rabid Ford fanbois.


      The Focus ST barely edges the current GTI in performance(while offering so much less on all other counts)) and is seriously overpriced in US. Everywhere else in the world a Focus ST is considerably cheaper than a GTI, and for good reason.
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      10-19-2012 11:33 AM #385
      If I was in a position right now... I would buy a ST over the GTI.

      Also I am glad no one attacked me, but to further clarify I AM NOT a VW fanboi. I have owned just as many Fords as VWs, and I am a moderator on a Mustang site.

      Thinking the MKVII will not be a strong competitor is nuts. Why wouldn't it be? Right now they are promising the MKVII will have less weight (MKVI is already lighter), more power, and a mechanical diff over the MKVI.

      If we take a look at Motor Trend's test the ST beat the MKVI in performance, which is a no brainer. The ST smokes the GTI, but we cannot rule out the MKVII. New chassis and new engine.

      I seriously think the MKVII will be a direct competitor to the ST. My .02 is it will be a bit down in power vs. the ST, but it will be much lighter, thus evening it out.

      I hate this argument that I am about to take, but... lets say you mod a ST to 300 hp and the MKVII to 300hp, which one will be faster? Honestly the MKVII. Mechanical diff, check. Less weight, check. Same power, check.

      I hate the mod to mod argument, but if I were comparing the two I would look at the aftermarket selection, because I know for a fact the car will not remain stock for more than a week, that is just my nature.

      I bought my TDI wagon knowing it was boring, within a few weeks I had a full track worthy setup on it, including 300 lbs tq.
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