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    Thread: VW 2010-2013 ECM/TCM update

    1. Member Tucci's Avatar
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      09-06-2012 11:27 PM #1
      This just came out... Go get it done! Dsg no longer wants to be in 6th by 35mpg. Drives more like a gti with Dsg, very responsive to your throttle input. VW finally got it right.

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      09-06-2012 11:41 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
      This just came out... Go get it done! Dsg no longer wants to be in 6th by 35mpg. Drives more like a gti with Dsg, very responsive to your throttle input. VW finally got it right.
      How is the initial response off the line in standard drive mode? Is there still a lag? Or is it now more like sport mode?

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      09-06-2012 11:46 PM #3
      No lag in first at all. It was instant on the car I drove. Spun the tires a little bit as I'm used to hitting the gas hard to compensate for the delay.

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      09-07-2012 12:08 AM #4
      I'm sure it's probably all VIN specific, but TSB number or anything like that?
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      09-07-2012 01:00 AM #5
      i picked up 13 CC last week
      am i included?
      i noticed my new CC (2013) is more responsive than my old CC (2010) already

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      09-07-2012 01:05 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by akipal View Post
      i picked up 13 CC last week
      am i included?
      i noticed my new CC (2013) is more responsive than my old CC (2010) already
      It's USUALLY VIN specific (by VW)

      I was at the dealer a couple weeks ago with my '13 and they said there weren't updates for it

      So maybe this is very fresh/new, or my car already has it....dunno
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      09-07-2012 01:35 AM #7
      good to know. i'm assuming since this is a TCM update it wont effect my ECU apr tune.
      x2 on a tsb number.

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      09-07-2012 08:32 PM #8
      Brand new TSB came out 2 days ago. 2010 - 2013 VIN range WVW___AN_ae546606 - WVW___AN_DE511958

      49,887 vehicles affected so it's a pretty big update. It's update 24X8 ECM/TCM for those that want to ask their local dealer.

      Also this is an ECM update as well so it may affect your tune. I'm getting mine done tomorrow so I will let you know if the tune went bye bye or not.

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      09-07-2012 08:51 PM #9
      Having mine done on monday. Also having dealer look into intermittent front left tire pressure sensor failure. It keeps going out triggering a warning since it can't read the pressure in that tire.

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      09-07-2012 09:53 PM #10
      I'm going into the dealer tomorrow for something completely different. Are they pretty strict with looking at VIN ranges, or if I mention it would they just go ahead and do it? I don't know a whole lot about TSB's and how they work as far as getting things fixed/improved.

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      09-07-2012 10:14 PM #11
      Does this cover 6sp manual transmissions or just DSGs? Thanks!
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      09-07-2012 11:47 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Johnny25 View Post
      I'm going into the dealer tomorrow for something completely different. Are they pretty strict with looking at VIN ranges, or if I mention it would they just go ahead and do it? I don't know a whole lot about TSB's and how they work as far as getting things fixed/improved.
      The TSB is from VW. The dealer does not control your warranty they just facility the process between you and VW. If your VIN is not affected per VW then there is nothing we as a dealer can do.

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      09-08-2012 01:59 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
      Brand new TSB came out 2 days ago. 2010 - 2013 VIN range WVW___AN_ae546606 - WVW___AN_DE511958

      49,887 vehicles affected so it's a pretty big update. It's update 24X8 ECM/TCM for those that want to ask their local dealer.

      Also this is an ECM update as well so it may affect your tune. I'm getting mine done tomorrow so I will let you know if the tune went bye bye or not.
      ok my 13 CC picked up last week is not in the range of VINs
      WVW___AN_DE525xxx
      so does it mean mine is already updated?

    14. 09-08-2012 02:15 AM #14
      I got this done on my 2011 yesterday for my 10k service.

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      09-08-2012 05:56 AM #15
      Woo hoo!
      I'm DE505465....guess I fall in the range


      Thanks for the info!!
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      09-08-2012 09:28 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
      Brand new TSB came out 2 days ago. 2010 - 2013 VIN range WVW___AN_ae546606 - WVW___AN_DE511958

      49,887 vehicles affected so it's a pretty big update. It's update 24X8 ECM/TCM for those that want to ask their local dealer.

      Also this is an ECM update as well so it may affect your tune. I'm getting mine done tomorrow so I will let you know if the tune went bye bye or not.
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      09-08-2012 06:26 PM #17
      Bye Bye Tune... Hope to be reflashed next week. But the update is Awesome! If you have not driven a DSG GTI Its tough to explain the differences but it drives just like that now. No delay from a stop and also no delay when slowing down and accelerating again in gear and no more stupid shifting under 2k rpms.

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      09-08-2012 08:17 PM #18
      Perfect, great info, now is time to ask APR what they are going to do about re-tune.


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      09-09-2012 06:55 PM #19
      Well this blows! My vin falls just short of the ae # but my shifting sucks ass! Tons of lag...almost takes 2 seconds to take off from a stop and half the time it spins the tires. Real jerky when it is warm and lunges on down hill off throttle driving. I hate my luck so far with this car
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      09-10-2012 06:01 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
      Bye Bye Tune... Hope to be reflashed next week. But the update is Awesome! If you have not driven a DSG GTI Its tough to explain the differences but it drives just like that now. No delay from a stop and also no delay when slowing down and accelerating again in gear and no more stupid shifting under 2k rpms.
      I really hope this is true

      I thought the CC shifted "lazily" compared to how a DSG GTI shifts
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      09-10-2012 11:32 AM #21
      Called my dealer and I am scheduled to get my software update this Friday. He seemed a little testy because I knew about the TSB and he did not. Thanks to this forum we can all be well informed. I'll let you know how it works out.

    22. 09-10-2012 12:04 PM #22
      Just picked up my 2013 Saturday and the VIN is after the last in the updated. Does this mean mine already has the latest update included?

    23. 09-10-2012 04:56 PM #23
      When you setup the appointment, what exactly did you say to the dealer. i.e. what information did you have handy? I am in that VIN range but want to have the TSB # ready as I know they are going to say "NO" TSB exists for your car. Thanks.

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      09-10-2012 05:33 PM #24
      I had mine done today. Honestly I can't tell that much difference. It does seem to hold the gear a little longer, but there is still a lag in first. Maybe I'll notice more differences when I get a chance to drive it more.


      As far as what I told the dealer; I just called them up and said I heard there was a software update available for my car. They pulled my VIN and confirmed that there was an update and scheduled my appointment.

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      09-10-2012 10:12 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by BiGWAM View Post
      I had mine done today. Honestly I can't tell that much difference. It does seem to hold the gear a little longer, but there is still a lag in first. Maybe I'll notice more differences when I get a chance to drive it more.


      As far as what I told the dealer; I just called them up and said I heard there was a software update available for my car. They pulled my VIN and confirmed that there was an update and scheduled my appointment.
      The 13's I have driven at work feel pretty nice from a stop already IMO. Trust me the 10's -12's are much worse so it's a bigger change for those of us. To those outside of the vin range I'm not really sure what that means other than you can't get the update now. Maybe VW will expand the Vin range later. Going to get reflashed Wed morning hopefully no issues with that.
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