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    1. Member kay207's Avatar
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      09-07-2012 07:12 PM #1
      I have been doing a little bit of research on the 1.8t to 2.0t coilpack conversion settup... The only thing that I am having a hardvtime figuring out is the type of coil to use, fsi or tsi. I have a 2001 jetta with the AWW engine code... What coil would I be leaning more towards?

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    2. 09-07-2012 07:19 PM #2
      FSI...but you can use the TSI.

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      09-07-2012 07:40 PM #3
      Most answers can be found here...

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      09-07-2012 07:49 PM #4
      So it really doesn't matter which one? I'm planning on chipping the car up to stage 2 next summer... Do the same specs apply? Obviously the spark plugs would change...

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      09-07-2012 07:52 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by groggory View Post
      I looked at that chart a few times, I just wasn't sure if anything would've been different because of the car being an earlier 1.8t.

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      09-07-2012 08:04 PM #6
      Engine type doesn't matter, only relevant factor is boost pressure to determine plug gap

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      09-07-2012 08:13 PM #7
      In other words.

      Buy appropriate adapter for your specific valve cover style.

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      09-08-2012 05:18 PM #8
      I really like the red packs... from my understanding they are about the same as the black packs... Can anybody say otherwise?

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      09-08-2012 05:56 PM #9
      Bremi STI coils are red and don't require any extra hardware. You don't need a bigger coil / gap for a stage 2 car.
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      09-19-2012 12:21 PM #10
      Okay kiddos, so I did my conversion yesterday:

      MkV red 2.0t fsi coil packs
      Red Integrated Engineering Adapters
      Red coil pack harness protecter
      NGK BKR6EIX Iridium spark plugs tapped at .035



      So far so good! My only question is about the gap... It's definitely a trial and error sorta thing, as all cars are different. My car is not yet reflashed or chipped... But it does have:

      2.5" catback exhaust
      3" downpipe with a highflow cat
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      and will be installing a new smic and MAP sensor

      Do you think that it is an appropriate gap and spark plug combo?

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      09-19-2012 12:50 PM #11
      Yeah, stock.
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      09-19-2012 02:38 PM #12
      Keep a stock gap?

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      09-19-2012 02:55 PM #13
      I don't think the coils are much stronger. Maybe you can gap them a little more. I think the main hope is the longevity of a more developed coil. LS2 coils are where you wanna go for big spark gaps.
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      09-19-2012 03:46 PM #14
      I gapped them at .035... Should I just put them back to .028-.032?

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      09-19-2012 05:24 PM #15
      I would drive around a week or two and check the plugs every once in a while. If they look okay then you're probly fine
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      09-19-2012 05:38 PM #16
      You have no reason to widen the gap or whatever. "IF" they are more reliable put them at .028 or .032 and let them be. You won't gain a thing by changing the gap on a stock turbo.
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      10-06-2012 06:00 PM #17
      So today I got a uni stage 2 flash... I am currently running NGK bkr6eix Iridium spark plugs at a gap of .33... So now I should go with NGK bkr7... Iridium or coppers?

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      10-06-2012 11:47 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by thefrese View Post
      I don't think the coils are much stronger. Maybe you can gap them a little more. I think the main hope is the longevity of a more developed coil. LS2 coils are where you wanna go for big spark gaps.
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    20. 12-12-2014 04:24 PM #20
      Sorry to revive such an old thread: Is this a conversion that folks still recommend doing over conventional stock coilpacks? I've got a bone stock AWW 1.8T. ECS Tuning is suggesting their own conversion kits. Any strong brand recommendations?

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      12-12-2014 05:24 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by jmbrockmann View Post
      Sorry to revive such an old thread: Is this a conversion that folks still recommend doing over conventional stock coilpacks? I've got a bone stock AWW 1.8T. ECS Tuning is suggesting their own conversion kits. Any strong brand recommendations?
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    22. 12-14-2014 09:03 PM #22
      It's a 2001 GTI with AWW engine. No mods whatsoever.

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      12-15-2014 03:44 PM #23
      Just stick with some stockers. They run just fine. In fact, don't even change them unless they're giving you problems.
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      12-16-2014 11:46 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by groggory View Post
      Just stick with some stockers. They run just fine. In fact, don't even change them unless they're giving you problems.
      This...

      Stupid 2.0T coil mod is stupid. There's absolutely nothing to gain.
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    25. 12-17-2014 07:21 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by DMVDUB View Post
      This...

      Stupid 2.0T coil mod is stupid. There's absolutely nothing to gain.

      If you are running the old style bolt down packs then there is a lot to be gained! So I wouldn't say it's stupid in any shape or form..

      Ditching the ICM for 1 then being able to run larger spark gaps on the tfsi coils, plus they are cheaper are in my mind a very sensible reason to convert.

      But you have to weigh up the cost of converting to the cost of replacing the the ICM or a coil should either fail...

      I think it's only a sensible option on the 2.7t engines tbh, I had a bolt on coil pack setup on a car running a stage 1 for 3 years with no issues, so converting in that case would have been a waste of money

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      12-17-2014 10:25 AM #26
      The conversion to a 2.0 coil pack from a 1.8 coil pack is actually beneficial. As the 1.8t coil packs misfire constantly not enough to make a code appear but enough to notice if you pay attention to how your vehicle operates. You may not see a tremendous difference when doing it on a non big turbo vehicle but there still will be a difference but as far as big turbo 1.8t go I would absolutely do it as I have and it make a difference in how your car will perform.

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      12-17-2014 10:46 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by papajugs View Post
      The conversion to a 2.0 coil pack from a 1.8 coil pack is actually beneficial.
      Upgrading from the old ones, but not from the current versions.





      They fire just exactly the same spark (3ms) in air. All testing variables (power supply, dwell, spark plug, spark gap) were the same and the results were the same, too.

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      12-17-2014 12:50 PM #28
      Hi Guys, long time!

      The only benefit i've noticed is that they are cheaper and they last a bit longer.
      On my AWD 2000 GTI i had to change the Hitachi one's every year when it gets colder i dunno why, hence i got a IE adaptors and Coils of an R8 and they are on my car for more a year now without any problem.
      I had BKR7E gapped to .023" and after a year i noticed the gapped went to .o35" so now i will be using BKR7EIX.

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      12-17-2014 01:23 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by LEBGTIMK4 View Post
      Hi Guys, long time!

      The only benefit i've noticed is that they are cheaper and they last a bit longer.
      On my AWD 2000 GTI i had to change the Hitachi one's every year when it gets colder i dunno why, hence i got a IE adaptors and Coils of an R8 and they are on my car for more a year now without any problem.
      I had BKR7E gapped to .023" and after a year i noticed the gapped went to .o35" so now i will be using BKR7EIX.

      cheers,
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