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    Thread: GOLF R: Water Pump MADNESS!!!!

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      09-13-2012 10:55 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by nate4486 View Post
      oh yeah, the dealer has been awesome through all this and gave me a nice 2012 Jetta for a loaner. excellent customer service. WARRANY!!!! whoop whoop!
      Since you're in Arizona I'm curious which dealership you're talking about.

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      09-13-2012 11:22 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
      It's one BIG stupid joke.
      You call it a joke, I call it quality. VWoA requests parts back to see what has failed and makes revisions to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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      09-14-2012 01:02 AM #28
      I have a march build date as well. 2100 miles. I am going to make sure the dealer takes a look at the water pump in the next couple of weeks.

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      09-14-2012 08:42 AM #29
      Has anyone gotten a list of VIN numbers together? This concerns me since all the cases are very similar... what really concerns me though is how these failures happened when the car was not under full load. It sounds like it was normal daily commuting.

      I want to mod a bit later, but I can easily see Volkswagen saying the added stress to the engine caused this failure.

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      09-14-2012 10:16 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Baylorguy View Post
      Has anyone gotten a list of VIN numbers together? This concerns me since all the cases are very similar... what really concerns me though is how these failures happened when the car was not under full load. It sounds like it was normal daily commuting.

      I want to mod a bit later, but I can easily see Volkswagen saying the added stress to the engine caused this failure.
      Fortunately, there's really nothing about modding that would remotely be the cause for this. It seems to be faulty parts with the pump itself, and it's happened to bone stock cars.

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      09-14-2012 12:11 PM #31
      Mine went out while I was at a stop light, I didn't hear anything, I did not realize there was a problem until the light turned green, I let the clutch up...and nothing happened. Probably had something to due with the fact that I listen to my music way to loud! But i sure heard all the honking behind me as I just had to sit there in the middle of the road with my flashers on waiting an hour and a half for the tow truck to arrive.
      This was at 2400 miles with no mods of any kind at the time. The dealer who fix it had to wait for VW approval before they did anything. VW wanted pictures, which they sent, so yeah, VW knows all about this and has seen the pics.

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      09-14-2012 12:18 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by FDP View Post
      Mine went out while I was at a stop light, I didn't hear anything, I did not realize there was a problem until the light turned green, I let the clutch up...and nothing happened. Probably had something to due with the fact that I listen to my music way to loud! But i sure heard all the honking behind me as I just had to sit there in the middle of the road with my flashers on waiting an hour and a half for the tow truck to arrive.
      This was at 2400 miles with no mods of any kind at the time. The dealer who fix it had to wait for VW approval before they did anything. VW wanted pictures, which they sent, so yeah, VW knows all about this and has seen the pics.
      What is your build date?

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      09-14-2012 12:19 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Atl-Atl View Post
      What is your build date?
      3/12

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      09-14-2012 12:40 PM #34
      Where can I find the build date on the car?

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      09-14-2012 12:42 PM #35
      Open the drivers side door - at the top right of the black label (either on the body or door, can't remember) you should see a date like 06/2012, 03/2012 etc...

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      09-14-2012 12:45 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by mtbmurray View Post
      You call it a joke, I call it quality. VWoA requests parts back to see what has failed and makes revisions to ensure it doesn't happen again.
      You missed the whole point.
      VWoA is not the issue, for the most part, it's the stealerships who design counter-measures to get over on the system.

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      09-14-2012 08:41 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by 35mphgolf View Post
      Open the drivers side door - at the top right of the black label (either on the body or door, can't remember) you should see a date like 06/2012, 03/2012 etc...
      Thanks. I'm a 5/12 build with no problems at 2600 miles and no issues...yet. I've got an APR Stage 1+ tune with VWR intake. I'll definitely let you know if something goes wrong

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      09-15-2012 08:31 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by BruRunR View Post
      Thanks. I'm a 5/12 build with no problems at 2600 miles and no issues...yet. I've got an APR Stage 1+ tune with VWR intake. I'll definitely let you know if something goes wrong
      4/12 and 4500 miles I hope I dodged the defect

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      09-15-2012 12:03 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by watsonj0 View Post
      4/12 and 4500 miles I hope I dodged the defect
      I'm w/you, I only have 1000 miles though. Hopefully they didn't use any leftovers from March

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      09-26-2012 12:24 AM #40
      you guys can add me to the list.

      Was driving my car last Friday night. Took a right turn and suddenly the car lost throttle response. Car came to a stop and died. Engine wouldn't turn over. Had it towed to dealership and they determined the water pump pulley had started to work its way away from the engine. The pulley ground into the belt and caused the timing belt to go.

      ~6k miles on the odometer
      didn't think to check build date before finding this thread but car was shipped first week of April so it is likely a march build

      mods: apr stg 1, evoms intake

      Dealership has had the car since Friday night and I am still awaiting the final decision from VWoA on warranty coverage. Hopefully they will decide tomorrow and the dealership can start fixing the R as well as give me a loaner so I'm not bumming rides from friends.

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      09-26-2012 10:06 AM #41
      "Don't believe everything on the internet" ??!!

      I would have snapped had someone tried smokescreening me with such an ignorant platitude. No shiite, Sherlock.

      OTOH, when forums full of enthusiasts are consistently reporting on a subject, once can only conclude that it's either A) a vast conspiracy with unknown aims and origins or B) worth looking into.

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      09-26-2012 10:24 AM #42
      I think a shed a tear when I went out to my R and saw the build date was March.

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      09-26-2012 10:32 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by arcticgenes View Post
      you guys can add me to the list.

      Was driving my car last Friday night. Took a right turn and suddenly the car lost throttle response. Car came to a stop and died. Engine wouldn't turn over. Had it towed to dealership and they determined the water pump pulley had started to work its way away from the engine. The pulley ground into the belt and caused the timing belt to go.

      ~6k miles on the odometer
      didn't think to check build date before finding this thread but car was shipped first week of April so it is likely a march build

      mods: apr stg 1, evoms intake

      Dealership has had the car since Friday night and I am still awaiting the final decision from VWoA on warranty coverage. Hopefully they will decide tomorrow and the dealership can start fixing the R as well as give me a loaner so I'm not bumming rides from friends.



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      09-26-2012 10:32 AM #44
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      09-26-2012 11:22 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Rdurty2 View Post
      I think a shed a tear when I went out to my R and saw the build date was March.
      My build date is March as well, I'm at 8700 miles and no issue so far. I'm hoping it stays that way. I have had a few rattles in the cabin that I've had to track down, but other than that the car has been fantastic! I think I will check the water pump just for my own sanity, soon though. Having the clutch go bad is one thing, because that is easily replaced, yes it costs money if they won't cover it under warranty (I'm at stage 2+) but at least it doesn't require a complete engine swap. I'm not worried about clutch issues, it will give me an excuse to upgrade the clutch, but I am worried about the water pump failures.
      Last edited by deathisgain; 09-26-2012 at 11:25 AM.

    21. 09-26-2012 11:34 AM #46
      Is there any way we can visually check this issue ourselves? Would there be any obvious sign something's wrong before it goes?
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      09-26-2012 11:34 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by deathisgain View Post
      My build date is March as well, I'm at 8700 miles and no issue so far. I'm hoping it stays that way. I have had a few rattles in the cabin that I've had to track down, but other than that the car has been fantastic! I think I will check the water pump just for my own sanity, soon though. Having the clutch go bad is one thing, because that is easily replaced, yes it costs money if they won't cover it under warranty (I'm at stage 2+) but at least it doesn't require a complete engine swap. I'm not worried about clutch issues, it will give me an excuse to upgrade the clutch, but I am worried about the water pump failures.
      6700 miles and no problems here (knock on wood). Checking the water pump, not sure what you would even be looking for, is a big big task.

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      09-26-2012 01:02 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Rdurty2 View Post
      6700 miles and no problems here (knock on wood). Checking the water pump, not sure what you would even be looking for, is a big big task.
      Agreed it's a big task, and I don't know how to physically check it, I have a buddy with a lot more experience with VW than me (he's a mechanic) so I plan on asking him if it's worth just changing out the water pump altogether for piece of mind. To me a day or weekend in the garage is far better than weeks without my car and a total engine swap.
      Last edited by deathisgain; 09-26-2012 at 01:08 PM.

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      09-26-2012 01:37 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by deathisgain View Post
      Agreed it's a big task, and I don't know how to physically check it, I have a buddy with a lot more experience with VW than me (he's a mechanic) so I plan on asking him if it's worth just changing out the water pump altogether for piece of mind. To me a day or weekend in the garage is far better than weeks without my car and a total engine swap.
      I'd agree with that. I'd be curious if the folks with failed pumps are getting engines with a superseded water pump.

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      09-26-2012 01:37 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by deathisgain View Post
      Agreed it's a big task, and I don't know how to physically check it, I have a buddy with a lot more experience with VW than me (he's a mechanic) so I plan on asking him if it's worth just changing out the water pump altogether for piece of mind. To me a day or weekend in the garage is far better than weeks without my car and a total engine swap.
      I think it might be the belt. Not the pump itself that snaps. Maybe just changing out the belt will do?
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