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    Thread: The world’s most realistic racing simulator (check this out)

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      09-10-2012 01:01 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      I think the physics are a little off there. I don't think I have ever seen an F1 driver look like they were climbing Pikes Peak before.
      The idea here is to use g-force to simulate acelleration and decelleration. I'm sure the guy on the actual simulator is feeling it properly.

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      09-10-2012 01:42 AM #27
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      for those that grew up on this.... good times
      Thanks for the memories, good times indeed!

      I played that game for hours on end, and just today I installed a racing game on my tablet...it's amazing how far we've come in 30 years, and curious to see how things will be in 2042. /deep thoughts.

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      09-10-2012 02:08 AM #28
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      09-10-2012 08:06 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
      Gravity is your friend here, you are using it to simulate G forces....
      Thanks, but i understand the purpose behind the machine.
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      09-10-2012 08:13 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      It is nice and cool. But for 90k, I would buy an Aero Atom around 55k and spend the rest for track event and consumable for the car.
      This. Or better yet, spend 10-15K on an SCCA IT car and have several years worth of consumables and spares. And you get to race against other, live, human people.
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    6. 09-10-2012 10:03 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      I think the physics are a little off there. I don't think I have ever seen an F1 driver look like they were climbing Pikes Peak before.
      It's off in the wrong direction.

      F-1 racers experience 1.5 g's accelerating which is (by the looks of it) at least 3 times the g's this thing can make you feel... And that's the least acceleration in an F-1 car because it can generate 4 to 5 g's braking and 5.5 g's turning. There is no way a gravity based system can come close to that.

      The best that chair could simulate is maybe a stock miata racing class.

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      09-10-2012 10:28 PM #32
      I wonder what it does when you get the back end loose or lose it entirely? I can't wait for 10 to 15 years from now when stuff like this is an affordable consumer product. Ahhhh technology
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      09-10-2012 10:59 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by WhatBlueVW View Post
      It's off in the wrong direction.

      F-1 racers experience 1.5 g's accelerating which is (by the looks of it) at least 3 times the g's this thing can make you feel... And that's the least acceleration in an F-1 car because it can generate 4 to 5 g's braking and 5.5 g's turning. There is no way a gravity based system can come close to that.

      The best that chair could simulate is maybe a stock miata racing class.
      No simulator is designed to simulate the full G force of the vehicle. The idea is to reproduce cues that you otherwise would not get in a traditional non-platform based simulator....You want to do Driver-In-Loop simulation, you need to have driver behave like they would as they feel slip/yaw..etc. There is a reason why pro racing teams actually uses stuff like this...

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      09-11-2012 09:46 AM #34
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      09-11-2012 10:00 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
      No simulator is designed to simulate the full G force of the vehicle. The idea is to reproduce cues that you otherwise would not get in a traditional non-platform based simulator....You want to do Driver-In-Loop simulation, you need to have driver behave like they would as they feel slip/yaw..etc. There is a reason why pro racing teams actually uses stuff like this...


      which is why I was never good at GT or Forza. For one, I don't drive with my thumbs, and two; I get zero feedback from the "vehicle". granted nothing will be the same or as good as actually driving, but a good simulator will allow the drive to have all required type(s) of feedback to allow them to manage their responses properly and drive the vehicle as fast as it possible.
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      09-11-2012 10:24 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post


      which is why I was never good at GT or Forza. For one, I don't drive with my thumbs, and two; I get zero feedback from the "vehicle". granted nothing will be the same or as good as actually driving, but a good simulator will allow the drive to have all required type(s) of feedback to allow them to manage their responses properly and drive the vehicle as fast as it possible.

      I agree, Feedback from the car is most important when performance driving. I hate loud music inside the car. You cant hear the engine, cant hear the tires, nothing.

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      09-11-2012 10:27 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      Pladium, in Mississauga, Ontario (just outside of Toronto), has a few a network of 8 simulators like this ... it's been over a decade since I've been there, but as I recall, it was pretty bomb when we went back when I was in 8th grade ...

      YES! I used to go there as a kid once every few years. My dad and I would race in those cars. One time he won a keychain for coming first. (It was a huge deal to me as a kid) Such fond memories.

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      09-11-2012 10:39 AM #38
      For SoCal TCLers, you can get a similar experience at Seat Time. They use iRacing as their sim package, and have a cockpit setup with articulation. I've talked to some people who have gone there, and they say it's incredible. Unfortunately, it's NOT cheap.

      They cater to semi-pro or pro racers who want to learn a track for the first time, hence the pricing.

      http://www.seattimesims.com/

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      09-11-2012 11:13 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post


      which is why I was never good at GT or Forza. For one, I don't drive with my thumbs, and two; I get zero feedback from the "vehicle". granted nothing will be the same or as good as actually driving, but a good simulator will allow the drive to have all required type(s) of feedback to allow them to manage their responses properly and drive the vehicle as fast as it possible.
      I like playing games with steering wheel and pedal setup, but at the end its still a game, the way you react to it is still different. But it does help me I think to be smoother, if anything you need to be more smooth in game as you can't feel the onset of slip with your butt. Having tried the one we have at work(for work), which is a full motion rig. The crossing over to the higher fidelity one is interesting, as you are much more intuned with the motion, BUT you are also a lot more sensitive to the discontinuity between what you are feeling and what you are seeing. If there is any minute amount of lag in the graphics and the motion, or if you see cues that breaks off the sense of illusion, you can get motion sick really quickly...

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      09-11-2012 11:48 AM #41
      http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...163302069.html

      That is Beyond amazing.

      Quote Originally Posted by RQ1 View Post
      This looks like a nice set-up also

      I have that Playseat except the seat itself is uncomfortable as hell after about 20 mins. Your lower back begins to yell at you. I replaced the stock seat with an old Recaro from a CRX SI. Of course I had to create a custom bracket for it to fit properly but it is sooo much better now. I also have the Fanatec Porsche GT2 steering wheel which works for PC/XB360 and PS3.

      http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=210

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      09-11-2012 12:21 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by VMPhil View Post
      I have that Playseat except the seat itself is uncomfortable as hell after about 20 mins. Your lower back begins to yell at you. I replaced the stock seat with an old Recaro from a CRX SI. Of course I had to create a custom bracket for it to fit properly but it is sooo much better now. I also have the Fanatec Porsche GT2 steering wheel which works for PC/XB360 and PS3.

      http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=210
      I'm seriously going look into buying something like that. Thanks for posting that info
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      09-11-2012 12:23 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by SSLByron View Post
      For SoCal TCLers, you can get a similar experience at Seat Time. They use iRacing as their sim package, and have a cockpit setup with articulation. I've talked to some people who have gone there, and they say it's incredible. Unfortunately, it's NOT cheap.

      They cater to semi-pro or pro racers who want to learn a track for the first time, hence the pricing.

      http://www.seattimesims.com/

      Wow that looks incredible also and very expensive.
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      09-11-2012 12:24 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by RQ1 View Post
      I'm seriously going look into buying something like that. Thanks for posting that info
      No problem! There are also the optional shifters. One is the typical up and down shifting action (arcade style) and there is the 6 speed sequential shift. I bought them both. The 6 speed while very cool is a bitch to get to work properly on the few games that do actually support it but neither are necessary. If you opt NOT to buy either, the steering wheel has paddle shifters and the wheel itself has a **** ton of settings and adjustments to get the right feel for a particular type of game. I love this wheel.

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      09-19-2012 06:14 PM #45
      This one looks fun


    21. 09-19-2012 06:27 PM #46
      It's missing a wind tunnel, racing suit and helmet
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      10-03-2012 08:20 AM #47
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      11-13-2012 04:00 PM #48
      Another one...




















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