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      09-10-2012 04:42 PM #1
      Iíve been on vortex for about 2 years but never really contributed to posting and what not; so since i will be purchasing air ride this month, i figured this would be the best time to get in with the crowd and start my own thread.


      This is how sheís sitting right now, on racelands (unfortunately) they are all the way down all around, no perches or collars in rear and the bump stops are also cut in half

      Sorry for the huge pictureís, iím still a rookie at this.





      As you can see it needís a lot more low so iím going with the manual management kit from bagriderís.


      AirLift Slam Series Frontís

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      Since iím new to the whole air ride scene iíd appreciate if i can get some opinionís on the set up iím getting and also some tipís on how to get as low as possible on these bagís. staytuned.
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      09-10-2012 05:05 PM #2
      You shouldn't have gotten Airlift rear bags.
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      09-10-2012 05:08 PM #3
      even with dcups ? which oneís do you recommend ?
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      09-10-2012 05:20 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by DonnMKV View Post
      even with dcups ? which oneís do you recommend ?
      i have been runing AL XL rears with no problems but trimmed things up in the back.
      many ppl suggest to get ss5 bags with d cups or bagyard classics
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      09-10-2012 05:24 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by nickbeezy View Post
      i have been runing AL XL rears with no problems but trimmed things up in the back.
      many ppl suggest to get ss5 bags with d cups or bagyard classics
      What do you have trimmed ?
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      09-10-2012 06:21 PM #6
      It's not that they're crap or anything. They just need to be aligned correctly so they don't rub and blow out. Seems to be an impossible task because all the mkv/mk6 guys can't seem to align em Either its hard to get right or we're not that smart.
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      09-10-2012 06:25 PM #7
      I have the AL rear XL's and I know that my lower control arms were trimmed. With that being said, it ended up being extra work, but I do love how low they get
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      09-10-2012 08:18 PM #8
      the control arm is shaved

      i really dont see why all these people have issues with air lift, i do not think it is hard to center the bag. but i do know you dont hear as much problems with the ss5 + d cups set up. on a side note air lift is designing a new system that incorporates camber/ dampening control for the front and then double bellow style bags for the rears( similar to the ss5)


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq78xaXqcp8
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      09-10-2012 08:28 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by DonnMKV View Post
      even with dcups ? which oneís do you recommend ?
      airlift slam bags and D cups don't work

      D cups are for RE5's SS5's and Air House 2's

      I reccomend SS5's or even wait till the new Airlifts to come out they are pretty much SS5's with built in D cups
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      09-10-2012 09:12 PM #10
      Any reason you have plates over your bottom grille? It's blocking 60% of the airflow to the Intercooler. I love the Orange style though.

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      09-10-2012 09:15 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by GTI Fanboy View Post
      Any reason you have plates over your bottom grille? It's blocking 60% of the airflow to the Intercooler. I love the Orange style though.
      i was going to say the exact same thing.
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      09-10-2012 09:16 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      It's not that they're crap or anything. They just need to be aligned correctly so they don't rub and blow out. Seems to be an impossible task because all the mkv/mk6 guys can't seem to align em Either its hard to get right or we're not that smart.
      well if you use the new brackets not the slam brackets they're fine, my friend has been running XLs with the new brackets that don't require trimming of the nipple hes had no issues other than some blown airlift shocks. Recently upgraded to bilstien shocks.

      for all those who have trimmed the nipple for the XL brackets, a suitable upgrade is SS5's with D cups, but don't use the top D cup
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      09-10-2012 09:55 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by GTI Fanboy View Post
      Any reason you have plates over your bottom grille? It's blocking 60% of the airflow to the Intercooler. I love the Orange style though.
      i know lol its very temporary my dad is making me a tow hook plate bracket so i figured i'd try something different for the time being.
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      09-10-2012 09:59 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by GTI Fanboy View Post
      Any reason you have plates over your bottom grille? It's blocking 60% of the airflow to the Intercooler. I love the Orange style though.

      and thank you its actually a copper metallic color, hard to distinguish in the picture though everyone mistakes it for orange
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      09-10-2012 10:06 PM #15
      The only wa to get low on airlift rears is to run the slam brackets and they suck. Stupid design and require more cutting up of your car than there should be.

      Ss5/dcups or wait for the new airlift rear setup. And I'll say this because I've always wanted to:

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      09-10-2012 10:07 PM #16
      lol.

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      09-10-2012 11:46 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by nickbeezy View Post
      the control arm is shaved

      i really dont see why all these people have issues with air lift, i do not think it is hard to center the bag. but i do know you dont hear as much problems with the ss5 + d cups set up. on a side note air lift is designing a new system that incorporates camber/ dampening control for the front and then double bellow style bags for the rears( similar to the ss5)


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq78xaXqcp8
      Appreciate the input, I might go with the ss5's, I need to see some pics on how low the airlifts/ss5s go!
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      09-10-2012 11:50 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Minor_Threat View Post
      airlift slam bags and D cups don't work

      D cups are for RE5's SS5's and Air House 2's

      I reccomend SS5's or even wait till the new Airlifts to come out they are pretty much SS5's with built in D cups
      Worst case is I get the airlifts for now than upgrade to some ss5's or bagyards this is just the beginning saying farewell to the static lifestyle
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    19. 09-11-2012 03:03 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
      The only wa to get low on airlift rears is to run the slam brackets and they suck. Stupid design and require more cutting up of your car than there should be.

      Ss5/dcups or wait for the new airlift rear setup. And I'll say this because I've always wanted to:

      Why build thread? Because air ride.
      When is the new airlift setup coming out?

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      09-11-2012 03:36 AM #20
      real nice

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      09-11-2012 06:41 AM #21
      I would just go ahead and get the ss5s and the dcups. Less problems to worry about.

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      09-11-2012 12:34 PM #22
      Here is xl fronts with re5 rears and bottom dcups. The top brackets were pulled and the nipples were grinded down completely.

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      09-11-2012 01:29 PM #23
      I run Air House IIs in the rear and have never had a problem.
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      09-11-2012 03:47 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by TeamZleep View Post
      Airlift XL fronts, SS5 rears with top and bottom dcups, nipples untouched. I need to sort all that jazz out.



      looks amazing iíve seen your car on vortex and instagram, love that rabbit front end
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      this is the look im going for, need to have that lip touching the ground i believe this is ACEDubs GTI saw it around the forumís. Thing is beautiful
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      09-11-2012 03:55 PM #26
      if you need a frame notch on LI pm me.

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      09-13-2012 04:19 PM #28
      ok so little update here, i will be ordering my setup next week and since iím in new york and bag riders is located in vermont i should be getting it the next day. iím going with the Airhouse IIís with dcupís. ditching the top cup shaving the nipple and probaly thread in a rod to connect to the bag so it doesnít shift when i air up/down etc. i will also be having the front passenger side notched. oh and ill be purchasing a windshield decal and shirt also
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      09-13-2012 09:11 PM #29
      No need to thread the rod into the spring plate. Pointless and a waste of time. Just drill a hole big enough for the rod to slide up into it.

      Threading it into the spring plate will cause the bag's seals to be potentially pulled on if air is released from the bag when the car is jacked up.
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      09-17-2012 09:37 PM #30
      so just drill a hole and guide the rod that comes with the upper dcup bracket into the hole and the other end screwed into the top of the bag and it will stay?
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      09-17-2012 09:43 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by DonnMKV View Post
      so just drill a hole and guide the rod that comes with the upper dcup bracket into the hole and the other end screwed into the top of the bag and it will stay?
      Well, sort of. The Top dcup will NOT be used with this technique. You will need to buy a piece of 3/8" all-thread from home depot. Cut it down to length and thread it into the top of the bag. Then guide that into the hole as you raise the control arm up.

      Yes it will stay. I made my rod long enough so that if the car is in the air with no air in the bag the rod will not fall out so you don't haven't worry about it ever unless you are disconnecting the control arm.
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      09-17-2012 10:22 PM #32
      you didn't tap the hole and thread the bag in?
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      09-18-2012 04:43 PM #33
      alright thankís a lot man i appreciate it, iím ordering my kit at the end of the week and iím going crazy trying to make sure i get everything perfect lol and also because iím exicted to not be static anymore also do you remember what the length of the rod you put in was by any chance ?
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      09-18-2012 08:30 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Minor_Threat View Post
      you didn't tap the hole and thread the bag in?
      No. Why would you? Serves no purpose
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      09-18-2012 09:45 PM #35
      so that it doesn't smack the frame everytime you air up
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