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      09-10-2012 11:02 PM #1
      I was thinking about getting spacers because I recently slammed my 337 and i want my wheels to look flush with the fender, but i've heard stories about the wheels falling off, any recommendations?

    2. 09-10-2012 11:05 PM #2
      wheels falling off

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      09-10-2012 11:11 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by sikknasty28 View Post
      wheels falling off
      Friends cousin was running adapters and thats what caused his wheel to come off and he flipped over the median and rolled 3 times. GTI was totaled.

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      09-10-2012 11:12 PM #4
      The same stories you heard was probably followed by a thread called "forgot to tighten wheel lugs"

      the majority of the euro world has spacers...Join the club.

    5. 09-10-2012 11:12 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by steeze20 View Post
      Friends cousin was running adapters and thats what caused his wheel to come off and he flipped over the median and rolled 3 times. GTI was totaled.
      adapters an spacers are different but as long as you have quality spacers this highly unlikely

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      09-10-2012 11:14 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by trev718 View Post
      The same stories you heard was probably followed by a thread called "forgot to tighten wheel lugs"

      the majority of the euro world has spacers...Join the club.
      What size should I get so it runs perfectly flush?

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      09-10-2012 11:15 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by sikknasty28 View Post
      adapters an spacers are different but as long as you have quality spacers this highly unlikely
      Yes I know, but theyre run the same way

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      09-10-2012 11:21 PM #8
      using the proper lugs (ball or cone), the proper length lugs, at the proper torque setting you have nothing to worry about.

      Buy quality spacers from either H&R or 42DD. Since you don't like searching, get 10/20 spacers, front and rear.

    9. 09-11-2012 12:34 AM #9
      the majority of the euro world has spacers[img]http://www.**********/6d.jpg[/img][img]http://www.**********/d.jpg[/img]

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      09-11-2012 12:36 AM #10
      10 mm spacers up front... 20 in the Rear.... DONE!
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      09-11-2012 12:39 AM #11
      I'm one of the unlucky one's whose wheel fell off. What happened was i was using the wrong bolts. I had aftermarket wheels and bolts for those wheels. I ended up going back to stock wheels but didnt think and kept the aftermarket bolts. 3000 miles later the wheel fell off. Luckily i was doing 30 mph in a no traffic area, so i was alright but the car was totalled.

      Spacers are safe when they are ran correctly. 10 in the front and 20mm in the back will make stock wheels look good. Just remember to get longer bolts and torque the bolts properly. After theyre torqued go for a short drive and then re-torque them.

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      09-11-2012 01:44 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Justin_Eshelman View Post
      I'm one of the unlucky one's whose wheel fell off. What happened was i was using the wrong bolts.


      So, again, to repeat, it had nothing to do with the spacers. You used the wrong bolts. I have run spacers and adapters for the better part of 5 years straight. Not one single problem. Attention to detail.

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      09-11-2012 12:18 PM #13
      We have spacer and bolt kits to insure that you get the correct length bolts to fit all OEM/ball seat wheels.




      Running aftermarket wheels? No problem, PM me and we will get you set up with the correct spacers and bolts!

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      09-11-2012 06:27 PM #14
      Too bad your website has been down for the better part of 24 hours... I need a late model MK1 TT 225 pass side axle, bolt end style, and before your website went down, it said you had them in stock...

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      09-11-2012 06:33 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by 87vr6 View Post
      Too bad your website has been down for the better part of 24 hours... I need a late model MK1 TT 225 pass side axle, bolt end style, and before your website went down, it said you had them in stock...
      Sorry about that, site was down for maintenance this morning and is now have been taken care of - After 9:00am the site was back up.

      PM me if you need anything, I would be glad to help!

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      09-12-2012 11:48 AM #16
      10mm front 20mm rear with extended bolts ball seat of OEM and Conical is aftermarket.

      My wheel fell off last friday doing 20mph. I forgot to tighten the bolts on the back left wheel. Car slammed on the floor and the wheel rolled pass me. LUCKILY, nothing happened. the car landed on the coil over bolt and nothing else hit the ground, not even the brake rotor

    17. 09-12-2012 12:04 PM #17
      Do they sell a whole kit

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      09-12-2012 02:43 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by steeze20 View Post
      What size should I get so it runs perfectly flush?
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      09-25-2012 07:51 PM #20
      Actually I am the one who was running the adapters that blew. I was running RH zwII's with RH adapters made specifically for the wheel with the correct lugs, they were also torqued to the correct given amount. I have heard other stories where they have blown on other people as well and I didnt think it would ever happen to me, oh but it did. Spacers are different, as the bolt goes directly into the hub instead of into a piece of metal in between the hub and wheel hub.

      You're not going to get that flush look with stock wheels whether you add spacers or not. Bigger rear wheels, stretched tires and lip to fender is considered "flush" to 90% of the people on here

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      09-25-2012 10:35 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by bendoverr View Post
      Actually I am the one who was running the adapters that blew. I was running RH zwII's with RH adapters made specifically for the wheel with the correct lugs, they were also torqued to the correct given amount. I have heard other stories where they have blown on other people as well and I didnt think it would ever happen to me, oh but it did. Spacers are different, as the bolt goes directly into the hub instead of into a piece of metal in between the hub and wheel hub.

      You're not going to get that flush look with stock wheels whether you add spacers or not. Bigger rear wheels, stretched tires and lip to fender is considered "flush" to 90% of the people on here
      Yeah I figured I just thought i'd try to figure something out just to see what answers i'd get, because I don't wanna dump too much into the car in case something were to happen then its basically money wasted. But I guess thats just the risk you have to take with cars.

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      09-26-2012 11:27 PM #22
      Spacers are 100% safe and track friendly ONLY if they are hub centric and wheel centric, plus if your wheels have a different center bore (the middle hole that fits over your hub) use appropriate wheel hub centric rings that fit the spacer. That is the most important thing.

      If you don't have the weigh on the hub, then the weight is distributed over the lug bolts and then they break, wheels fall off and you crash. that is a given


      You will get flush look with stock wheels there are hundreds of examples on vortex alone. 20mm spacer with OEM aristos and they are sitting flush in the back. but tire choice and how low you are is important too.
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      09-26-2012 11:46 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by [pl] View Post
      Spacers are 100% safe and track friendly ONLY if they are hub centric and wheel centric, plus if your wheels have a different center bore (the middle hole that fits over your hub) use appropriate wheel hub centric rings that fit the spacer. That is the most important thing.

      If you don't have the weigh on the hub, then the weight is distributed over the lug bolts and then they break, wheels fall off and you crash. that is a given


      You will get flush look with stock wheels there are hundreds of examples on vortex alone. 20mm spacer with OEM aristos and they are sitting flush in the back. but tire choice and how low you are is important too.
      Couldn't have said it better

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      12-06-2012 02:52 PM #24
      steeze20, did I see you in new milli today, with another mk4 GTI and a yellow beetle?
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      12-07-2012 06:18 PM #25
      We also carry spacers in several sizes for your application!
      I personally run 8mm and 15mm spacers on my GLI on RCs w/ 225/40 Michelin Pilot Sports. Looks good, no rubs.
      Like others have suggested, 10mm/20mm combinations work fine for most people as well.
      Each spacers description, as well as the wheel bolts, list what bolt lengths are required for each application.

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