Was hoping to see this yesterday. Mainly interested in how it will be priced/equipped compared to the Kindle Fire and others..... rumor mill is sometime in October.
They could probably release it at $299 or less.. but there is a line to draw between max profit, and number of sales. Would they sell 25% more if the price were 25% cheaper? i.e. 10 mil units at $299 vs 7.5 mil units at $399? They have such high brand loyalty and name recognition I think they'd probably lose out on profit trying to price match other 7" tablets. History tells us people will pay the premium and be happy about it.
Last edited by b2m_vw; 09-19-2012 at 03:17 PM.
Really small equates to more expensive. I think $299 for a non-Retina < 8" iPad is reasonable. It's also telling that Apple just stopped selling the original iPad but still sells the 2 for $399.
Kindle Fire has always been a good little tablet with pretty darn good specs when compared with other tablets considering its price point. What made a lot of techies sad was that the Fire used a version of Android specific for Amazon, but now you can root your Kindle Fire and install a normal version of Android. However, Amazon never really marketed the Fire to compete with other tablets because of its small size and known capacity as an ereader/ebook... despite its pretty decent power.
However, the new lineup of HD Fires are even more impressive given the resolution, specs, features, and the great price. The 8.9 inchers flat out beat the Ipad 3 in several categories, and once again, at the price point that is impressive.
- The software on the 8.9 is very sluggish, not an improvement from previous Kindle Fire.
- Speaker is better, Amazon book store is better than iTunes
- Amazon claim to have faster Wifi but tests from Anandtech reveals it's competitive but not clearly better
- The Kindle Fire CPU/GPU worst than Nexus 7's Tegra 3 which the iPad 3 beats across the board.
I can't see Amazon making a huge run against the iPad charging $499/$599 for the 8.9 LTE versions while Apple is serving up $629+ for iPad 3 LTE but it's 10" vs 8.9"
The software is garbage on the KF, sluggish, boxed in, and you have to pay to remove ads. Majority of the people buying are not going to flash the device. The Amazon app store is pure garbage.
The sweet spot for Android tablet is $200-300. Most Android folks do not care about built in LTE service when hotspot is a feature on their smartphone.
The Nexus 7 is also a better choice than KF 7", so this year the competition is stiffer for Amazon not for Apple yet. I can't see Apple losing any marketshare this year once the iPad Mini is out, they will sell even more.
If the iPad Mini uses the same SOC as the iPhone 5, I assume so. It will be very tough to beat until next year. Not a single chip out today can match the A6.
Last edited by Vision33r; 09-24-2012 at 12:58 PM.
Yes I don't expect the Kindle to be near as advanced as the Ipad as far as what it can do. At least not when Amazon is wanting to keep the Kindle very simple which is a plus to some users while other users don't like it. But, there's plenty of people who think Apple's mobile OS are too simple too, so it's all relative to the user.
As far as the ads go, I use to have a Kindle Keyboard with "special features" (ads ) and they were not troublesome in the least because they were only present when the device was sleeping. I am guessing they are still using this method? Or are there visible ads when you are actually working on the device? I have not read anything on this.
I have to disagree with the Fire's OS being sluggish. IMO its a very snappy OS that shows good response throughout. Better than my Droid Bionic phone running on Ginger Bread for sure. I also like Amazon's app store apart from the limited number of apps when compared to Google Play and Itunes. Despite that I don't really use Amazon's app store because I use my Fire as a reader 90% of the time I am on it.
I can't see myself with a true tablet device anytime soon (I still see the Kindle Fire as an E-reader, maybe I'm in the minority though?) and I still go out and purchase real books while I use my Fire for free books. If I pay money for it then I want to be able to look at it on my bookshelves! I'm still a CD guy too for music.
Also from what I have seen about the Wifi quality is not really that it is much faster but that it works better at farther distances.
Otherwise I wouldn't buy for myself, but wouldn't put past getting it for a family member. I'm honestly tempted since I use Amazon Prime and they only have an app for the iPad and not Android even though the Kindle is android based.
I'm already neck deep in the apple ecosystem (OSX, iOS) so the iPad mini is perfect for me.
My guess is that it will be stronger than the Nexus 7 in benchmarking as it doesn't have to drive a retina display.
There's also a few apps (ForeFlight, for example) that aren't available to me on Android.
To each their own.
I think the mini would be more compelling for a lot of people if it was $299. It's still a very good value though, as far as iPads go. Personally I have no use for smaller tablets and I would guess that the majority of them will be bought by people who balk at spending the extra money for a larger display.
I'm really surprised my "New iPad" has already been superseded only 7 months later. That's unusual for Apple, though the improvements they made to "iPad with Retina Display" sound great.
I hadn't really thought about it until yesterday, but the iPad Mini is going to make a great Christmas gift for my mother-in-law. She likes going on Facebook and playing games on the desktop, but she has to go to a different room for that, and my father-in-law hogs it frequently. She also has an e-ink eReader that she's used to using. An iPad Mini is perfect for her. Set her Facebook up, tie it up to our AppleID to give her any Apps she needs, and she'd be pretty happy. It's also not as bulky or heavy (half the weight!) as the pricier iPads.
It's a shame because the iPad mini would be perfect for her because she is so unbelievably technically challenged and computer illiterate that an iPad would be so easy for her to use for online shopping, Facebook, email, etc.
I just tried the Sovereign Santander website on my iPhone and it got me to the login page just fine, for what it's worth. The only web content these things can't do are certain java applets and, obviously, Flash.