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    09-15-2012 08:52 PM #1
    So today I took a barebones PC and installed Windows XP w/ Service Pack 3 DVD on it (the SP3 is part of the installation.)

    So far so good except for one problem: The internet does not work.

    Previously this PC used various versions of Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Linux Puppy - all of them had no issues getting on the Internet.

    I've gone online and searched for all possible resolutions to this issue.

    First, I tried resetting Winsock - this did not work.

    Next, I tried uninstalling the Service Pack 3 updates. Unfortunately there is no entry for uninstalling them likely because it was embedded during the installation process.

    Has anyone run into this situation before? The box connects directly to a router and requires no user id/password and like I've said, several other versions of Linux had no issues with connecting straight after installation.

    Another oddity surfaced also - which is probably not affecting this - but I noticed that Windows decided to reformat / relabel the C:\ drive as the I:\ drive now for whatever reason. Anyway of changing this back to C:\?

    The only other thing I can think of is going to Fry's and purchasing a wireless adapter and see if I can connect that way. I'd really hate to do if a direct connection is already available.
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    09-16-2012 12:43 AM #2
    Obvious question you didn't mention anything about, did you load the drivers for the network card? They're not build into windows.
    Does the computer get an IP address? Can you ping the gateway? If you log into the router, do you see the MAC in the DHCP table?

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    09-16-2012 07:09 AM #3
    You didn't mention, but do you have other computers that are able to get on the internet via the router? Have you tried bypassing the router and going directly to the modem?

    It was mentioned above, but make sure the drivers are correct. Even if device manager says there are no problems, it may have used the incorrect drivers for the install. Try going to the motherboard or NIC manufacturer's website (whichever the LAN port is on) to get the latest network drivers.

    As far as changing the letter of the root drive, it isn't possible without a reinstall. That being said though, since you did just install, it might not take too much of your time to reinstall and make sure it installs as C.

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    09-16-2012 09:11 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by DanG View Post
    Obvious question you didn't mention anything about, did you load the drivers for the network card? They're not build into windows.
    Does the computer get an IP address? Can you ping the gateway? If you log into the router, do you see the MAC in the DHCP table?
    I did not load the drivers because I couldn't find them - the PC is ancient. I figured that since three different distributions of Linux could figure the network card out so could Windows. I could not ping anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by georgekelp View Post
    You didn't mention, but do you have other computers that are able to get on the internet via the router? Have you tried bypassing the router and going directly to the modem?

    It was mentioned above, but make sure the drivers are correct. Even if device manager says there are no problems, it may have used the incorrect drivers for the install. Try going to the motherboard or NIC manufacturer's website (whichever the LAN port is on) to get the latest network drivers.

    As far as changing the letter of the root drive, it isn't possible without a reinstall. That being said though, since you did just install, it might not take too much of your time to reinstall and make sure it installs as C.
    I couldn't find the drivers. This is a fairly old PC (512MB maximum allowed memory)...

    After 3 hours messing around with it I stopped by my local Fry's and picked up a $10 Wifi USB card and that worked just fine.

    One thing is for sure: I am not alone. There are a lot of users with the same problems with the XP distribution that includes Service Pack 3 on the same DVD.
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    09-16-2012 10:17 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyfingers View Post
    I couldn't find the drivers. This is a fairly old PC (512MB maximum allowed memory)...
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    09-16-2012 10:31 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
    Good gravyville.
    Pentium III?
    What are you using this beast for?
    Just an email machine?
    It's one of the first Pentium 4's; this particular configuration seems pretty rare for the strict memory limitation. This was probably used to encourage people to upgrade to the next more expensive model.

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    09-16-2012 11:18 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyfingers View Post
    It's one of the first Pentium 4's; this particular configuration seems pretty rare for the strict memory limitation. This was probably used to encourage people to upgrade to the next more expensive model.

    My dad uses it for paying bills, playing solitaire - and when my mom isn't looking - looking at porn.
    What was it rocking originally- Windows 98 or Windows 2000?

    Gateway?
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    09-17-2012 10:31 AM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyfingers View Post
    I did not load the drivers
    That's your problem.
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    09-17-2012 10:35 AM #9
    Linux may have had a generic built in driver that will work with pretty much any network card. Windows does as well, but may just not have the right one.

    Right click on my computer and go into device manager. Under network adapters, does the network card show up in it, or is it a yellow exclamation or question mark for unknown device?

    What brand of PC, or network card is it?

  10. 09-28-2012 12:06 AM #10
    You also need to install the drivers for the motherboard

  11. 10-01-2012 11:53 PM #11
    yeah, i think so ,Linux may have had a generic built in driver that will work with pretty much any network card. Windows does as well, but may just not have the right one.

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    10-02-2012 03:39 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyfingers View Post
    Another oddity surfaced also - which is probably not affecting this - but I noticed that Windows decided to reformat / relabel the C:\ drive as the I:\ drive now for whatever reason.
    Did you remove all of the Linux partitions before installing Windows?

    If not, Windows might have installed over just one of the existing partitions, leaving others on the disk wasting space (unless you have it set up to dual-boot)...

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    10-08-2012 06:58 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by stevenjoywell View Post
    yeah, i think so ,Linux may have had a generic built in driver that will work with pretty much any network card. Windows does as well, but may just not have the right one.
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  14. 10-08-2012 08:38 PM #14
    This seems like L1 tech stuff. If it's some knockoff brand hardware and you didn't install the drivers yourself, it's probably not going to work.

    Buy Intel next time. I wouldn't expect Microsoft to slipstream drivers in XP for the no-name Huayang-Chuyang chipset your mobo has.

    edit- I sound like a d-bag in my post, and I apologize. MS has a finite amount of financial and human resources and they're not going to devote those to providing built-in support for hardware with a tiny user base.
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    10-09-2012 07:04 AM #15
    Edit- nevermind
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    10-25-2012 11:30 AM #16
    is picking up a cheap NIC an option?

    Something like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833156107

    eBay even has stuff for like $5

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