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    09-16-2012 09:18 AM #1
    Hey Gang,

    Thought i'd post up a job that my friend and I tackled yesterday. It was a lot of work and this car's paint was trashed. We got some great results although the paint is still nowhere near perfect when you inspect it up close. It really needs a re-spray for that type of results, but we saved the client quite a bit of money by having us correct it over a re-spray.

    Below is the steps and products we used.

    Wash
    Dish Soap
    IronX
    ONR in final steps

    Clay
    Meguiar's medium clay (pink/red stuff)
    Used IronX on a few spots to lift the rust out of paint chip spots.

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    Meguiar's #21 layered in two coats.


    As I said above. This car's paint was trashed, but the pictures we got show some great before and after's when it comes to removal of heavy swirling and scratches. Hope you enjoy viewing.


    Car washed/De-greased, ironX'd and clayed:

    01 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    Hood Before:

    1 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    Hood After:

    2 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    Door Before:

    3 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    Door After:

    4 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    8 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    Completed:

    10 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    11 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    12 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    DSC02275 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    DSC02277 by Mark Popovac, on Flickr

    Full set is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/6601974...th/7990360959/

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    09-17-2012 01:21 PM #2
    great job!

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    09-18-2012 09:16 AM #3
    Thanks man!

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    09-18-2012 09:30 AM #4
    Nice work

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    09-20-2012 01:43 PM #5
    Thanks man. A lot of tips I've picked up from you I passed on to my partner. Woolite being one of the major ones, but also just the little things that makes jobs like this a little less painful. Also the conversation of using a foam gun came up and I again referred back you and how to make your own home-made foam gun

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    11-04-2012 11:06 PM #6
    You should never use dish soap to wash a car.
    Maybe it's okay for a one time detail like you did here but over time the harsh cleaners can destroy and fade a paint finish.
    Always use a high quality car shampoo.

    Just some advice.
    Good job though
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    11-06-2012 10:27 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by GiveEmHell View Post
    You should never use dish soap to wash a car.
    Maybe it's okay for a one time detail like you did here but over time the harsh cleaners can destroy and fade a paint finish.
    Always use a high quality car shampoo.

    Just some advice.
    Good job though
    I humbly disagree when you use a mild soap in these cases. The car had a layer of wax on it when we started so thus why we'll start with a de-greaser like dish soap when correction is involved. The final washes were done with a high quality wash (Optimum No Rinse) and for maintaining the finish we've recommend to the client to indeed use a high quality car shampoo.

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    11-06-2012 11:08 AM #8
    I'm with giveemhell. dish soap is a no no. There are plenty of high quality shampoos out there that will strip wax. For example, this is what I use: http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemica...P410/16-oz-S1/
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    11-06-2012 05:15 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Angier View Post
    I'm with giveemhell. dish soap is a no no. There are plenty of high quality shampoos out there that will strip wax. For example, this is what I use: http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemica...P410/16-oz-S1/
    Old habits die hard I guess for me since I've done it for so long and never have had an issue with my many repeat clients over the years when we do a full detail (clay correction, etc). I have the product you linked and use it when a car is heavily soiled but I wouldn't buy it again as there are much better products for less $$ available IMHO.

    I appreciate the feedback guys. It makes us all better detailers in the end.

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    11-06-2012 05:22 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by TXR32 View Post
    I humbly disagree when you use a mild soap in these cases. The car had a layer of wax on it when we started so thus why we'll start with a de-greaser like dish soap when correction is involved. The final washes were done with a high quality wash (Optimum No Rinse) and for maintaining the finish we've recommend to the client to indeed use a high quality car shampoo.
    I use Blue Dawn on every full detail .. have for years .. no issues .. I like a good wax/grease free surface to start on ... once the correction is finished I also do a 50/50 water / IPA wipe prior to the LSP.

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    11-07-2012 04:55 PM #11
    Ya know what, that makes sense though if its a full detail.
    I guess as long as you know there's a layer of wax then it's okay because you want it off anyways.
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