Confirmation please ... Torsion Beam Rear Suspension or Independent ? (Not the GTI model)

[Onearmedmidget]

FML if it's a torsion beam.

[merog]

As fare as I know, no euro spec golf will have torsion beam rear susp. Only IRS. But the US spec i don't know.

[feels_road]

I think this is related to the discussion of where the US MkVII will be produced - which for some, is still an open question.

At any rate, I think there is no doubt that any MkVII worth driving will have an independent IRS.

[XM_Rocks]

If they can start the Golf @ $15,900 with a torsion beam go for it.

It would be great to get a lower starting point.

I will be buying a GTI so it really doesn't apply for me.

[John Y]

For Europe at least, the report is that only the lowest-powered versions (85 and 105hp gas and 105hp diesel) will feature a torsion beam rear axle.

[flexxGER]

For Europe at least, the report is that only the lowest-powered versions (85 and 105hp gas and 105hp diesel) will feature a torsion beam rear axle.

Correct and i heard it has gotten an overhaul to minimize its disadvantages when it comes to driving dynamics and comfort.

[merog]

For Europe at least, the report is that only the lowest-powered versions (85 and 105hp gas and 105hp diesel) will feature a torsion beam rear axle.

Correct and i heard it has gotten an overhaul to minimize its disadvantages when it comes to driving dynamics and comfort.

source

[John Y]

An article/piece on motor-talk.de, and the Auto Zeitung article that I posted and cited a few weeks ago.

[flexxGER]

I can now confirm because i have seen it with my own eyes.

multilink: 2.0 TDI, 1.4 TSI (140hp)

torsion beam: 1.6 TDI, 1.2 TSI (85 + 105 hp)

The US-spec engines will surely not have under 140hp but maybe you'll still get the torsion beam for cost reasons in the entry level models. I'll keep you guys updated when i start seeing US-models.

[Onearmedmidget]

I believe it will only be available in the GTI format. My suggestion to vw if they are going to give torsion beam for the standard engines (TDI and base gasoline) at least give it to us in the highline option of the car. It may be the incentive enough for some to just get the higher model, me being one of them.

[TheGermanExperience]

Please, VW you need to give the IRS to TDI models. I wanted a new Jetta TDI but there is no way I would go back to torsion beam. I can see it in the base gas model though, but the TDI should be considered a little more "upscale" due to the increased cost. This is especially important because a TDI is kept a long time so you are then saddled with a stone-age rear end for such a long time, it is a real bummer.

[mediumbluemetalic]

Though I agree, the TDI is pricey enough as it is without IRS. And in most real-world driving scenarios, it really doesn't make enough of a difference. I would think that a GTD would merit IRS, or possible top-trim TDI, but not the base TDI.

[Waterfan]

IRS in US TDI will probably be dependent on US GTD availability:

Here is what the US/NA lineup MIGHT be:

140? hp 2.0L TDI (Torsion Bar)
180? hp 2.0L GTD (IRS)

??? hp 1.8T? Golf (TB) (base at the $16k price point and fully loaded no more than $20k)
217-227 hp 2.0T GTI (IRS)
276? hp 2.0T (K04) Golf R (IRS, AWD) US/NA launch date no sooner than 2015.

Fitting the GTD into the US/NA lineup will be a challenge. The current US-spec TDI is rather upscale and, I believe, will have to be decontented (with appropriate price decrease) to make room for the performance/'luxurious' and more expensive GTD. (GTD needs to be very close in price to GTI - perhaps in the ~$25k range for each)