VWVortex


+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 35 of 39

Thread: GLI 0-60 times stock vs APR Stage 1

  1. 09-19-2012 02:01 PM #1
    Best guess from anyone who has done this...

    Edmunds states that stock 0-60mph on GLI is roughly 7 seconds...

    The GTI R has a low 6 second 0-60 mph with similar horsepower/torque as an APR chipped unit.

    Is it everyone's best guess that you gain about 1 second with an APR chip?

    Anyone ever actually time 0-60 mph on APR stage1?

  2. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    09-19-2012 02:19 PM #2
    I've been using an app on my Iphone and getting 6.4-6.7 to 60. The app is off, by the time it shows im doing 60 on the app, im almost doing 70. The only upgrade i have is a Nuespeed intake, i doubt that really makes a big difference in time.
    Last edited by mattng06; 09-19-2012 at 02:24 PM.

  3. 09-19-2012 04:16 PM #3
    Thanks....forgive me for not fully understanding...but I am assuming your car is stock vs. chipped...correct?

  4. Member
    Join Date
    Oct 1st, 2007
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    356
    Vehicles
    '13 GLI Autobahn
    09-19-2012 04:23 PM #4
    I don't think 7 is right, I think it's more like 6, especially with the DSG. It would be interesting to see what the real number is, I remember seeing something about the GTI being 5.9.

    I have no experience with it, but I can't imagine the APR tune shaving a full second off of that. Maybe half a second at most, unless you have slicks or something.

  5. Member KC Jazz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 8th, 2003
    Location
    Springfield, MO
    Posts
    11,220
    Vehicles
    MKVI
    09-19-2012 05:34 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
    The only upgrade i have is a Nuespeed intake, i doubt that really makes a big difference in time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maringa View Post
    Thanks....forgive me for not fully understanding...but I am assuming your car is stock vs. chipped...correct?
    past affairs - '05 s4 6mt, '03 20th gti (x2), '04 tt 3.2l dsg, '07 wrx, '05 sti, '07 & '08 gsx-r600s

  6. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    09-19-2012 05:42 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Maringa View Post
    Thanks....forgive me for not fully understanding...but I am assuming your car is stock vs. chipped...correct?
    Yea my car is stock except for the Intake. I would assume its close to 6 seconds flat with a DSG.

  7. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 4th, 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    545
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG Black Metallic Pearl
    09-19-2012 05:50 PM #7
    Even with dsg, I hardly doubt a GLI can pull off low 6's on 0-60 times. With a tune, possibly.

    I have stage 2 now and my car--with these oem dunlops--couldn't hold traction from 1st to 2nd if my life depended on it, so even for my tuned GLI, low 6's is unfathomable unless I upgrade to better tires.
    GIAC - Stage 2 // SPM Street Downpipe // Neuspeed P-flo Intake [red] // TSW Nurburgring 18x8 [gunmetal machined face]// DG Springs

  8. Member apmarsh44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 21st, 2011
    Location
    Nassau County, NY
    Posts
    225
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG
    09-19-2012 05:51 PM #8
    i have yet to see an "official" 0-60 time for a stock GLI, theyre all over the place (5.9, 6.2, 6.5, 6.8),
    personally i think with DSG its close to around 6 seconds, but VW's website says 6.8, although brands usually post very conservative times. As for stage 1, assuming that stock with DSG is around 6 seconds, I would think between 5.6-5.9 is achievable with different rubber and ESP off switch...i think the Golf R is rated at 5.6-5.8 stock. Sorry, these are just my guestimates, nobody can really say for sure because it varies with the driver. Need the Stig to help us out with this one...
    Last edited by apmarsh44; 09-19-2012 at 05:56 PM.
    Candy White: APR Carbonio Intake Stage 1&2, AWE Touring Catback w/ black tips

  9. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    09-19-2012 06:25 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by PeeLo801 View Post
    Even with dsg, I hardly doubt a GLI can pull off low 6's on 0-60 times. With a tune, possibly.

    I have stage 2 now and my car--with these oem dunlops--couldn't hold traction from 1st to 2nd if my life depended on it, so even for my tuned GLI, low 6's is unfathomable unless I upgrade to better tires.
    Did you install a ESP button if not your basically accelerating like a stock GLI in first. My times were only off an app on my iphone. Does no one on here have a VBOX? And from what i heard those Dunlops suck?

  10. Member dawookiee15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 18th, 2012
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    232
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn w/nav DSG
    09-19-2012 07:03 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
    And from what i heard those Dunlops suck?
    This is true, I feel like they sap a lot from the car's acceleration and handling, and especially braking new tires are going on in the summer though, but I'll keep these all seasons for next winter...
    ---------------------------------------------
    2012 GLI Autobahn Deep Black Metallic
    APR Stage I ECU + Carbonio Intake

  11. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 4th, 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    545
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG Black Metallic Pearl
    09-19-2012 07:09 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by apmarsh44 View Post
    As for stage 1, assuming that stock with DSG is around 6 seconds, I would think between 5.6-5.9 is achievable with different rubber and ESP off switch...i think the Golf R is rated at 5.6-5.8 stock. Sorry, these are just my guestimates, nobody can really say for sure because it varies with the driver. Need the Stig to help us out with this one...
    I agree that the 0-60 times would be improved dramatically with traction control AND launch control (DSG).

    Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
    Did you install a ESP button if not your basically accelerating like a stock GLI in first. My times were only off an app on my iphone. Does no one on here have a VBOX? And from what i heard those Dunlops suck?
    No I have not retrofitted the traction control nor do I have any intention to. I don't anticipate ever taking my car to the track. Regarding the dunlops, they're decent all-season tires IMO, but not for the kind of driving that some people here would aspire to (because racecar ). I personally am fine with them since like I mentioned, the most I would ever push my car is spirited driving through twisties and on-ramps, nothing more.
    GIAC - Stage 2 // SPM Street Downpipe // Neuspeed P-flo Intake [red] // TSW Nurburgring 18x8 [gunmetal machined face]// DG Springs

  12. Member frandre's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 19th, 2012
    Location
    Burlington County NJ
    Posts
    297
    Vehicles
    2012 Platinum Grey Metallic GLI Audobahn w/ Nav DSG
    09-19-2012 07:54 PM #12
    Using an app on my phone with stage 2 ecu tune and esp mod quickest 0-60 was 5.3. Running stock Dunlop's it just spins till about 38 mph. Stock my quickest time was 6.4. I had Dsg flashed with hpa stage 2 but never timed a launch control takeoff. It really just smoked the tires more than anything.

    Sent from my GNex using Tapatalk 2
    HEX-USB+CAN Interface Vag com southern new jersey

  13. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    09-19-2012 08:56 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by frandre View Post
    Using an app on my phone with stage 2 ecu tune and esp mod quickest 0-60 was 5.3. Running stock Dunlop's it just spins till about 38 mph. Stock my quickest time was 6.4. I had Dsg flashed with hpa stage 2 but never timed a launch control takeoff. It really just smoked the tires more than anything.

    Sent from my GNex using Tapatalk 2
    Those numbers sound right.

  14. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    09-19-2012 09:02 PM #14
    No I have not retrofitted the traction control nor do I have any intention to. I don't anticipate ever taking my car to the track. Regarding the dunlops, they're decent all-season tires IMO, but not for the kind of driving that some people here would aspire to (because racecar ). I personally am fine with them since like I mentioned, the most I would ever push my car is spirited driving through twisties and on-ramps, nothing more.[/QUOTE]

    Its good to retrofit the traction control for a few reasons. 1. Your brake pads last longer if you accelerate hard from a dig a lot. 2. If you're ever in the snow its going to help you get out. 3. Whats the point of adding hp if your car is going to restrict how you accelerate. you can turn off the traction control in a Honda civic, im sure its for a good reason wouldnt you agree? They dont add these things for no reason.... Do they???

  15. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 4th, 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    545
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG Black Metallic Pearl
    09-19-2012 10:07 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
    Its good to retrofit the traction control for a few reasons. 1. Your brake pads last longer if you accelerate hard from a dig a lot. 2. If you're ever in the snow its going to help you get out. 3. Whats the point of adding hp if your car is going to restrict how you accelerate. you can turn off the traction control in a Honda civic, im sure its for a good reason wouldnt you agree? They dont add these things for no reason.... Do they???
    I realize that there's certain upsides to it, but I really don't see the absolute need for it, at least not right now anyway. I didn't get a tune to race my car. I got it simply because of my need for speed I wanted a faster car, and a tune with bolt ons was the best bang for buck for me. The only HP it's restricting is from launch and from spirited turns. Other than these circumstances, the traction control isn't restricting any more of my car's hp.

    It doesn't snow in my area so I don't need to worry about that either. I have a subaru anyways for when I do go snowboarding, and even then I usually go on powder days rather than stormy days.
    GIAC - Stage 2 // SPM Street Downpipe // Neuspeed P-flo Intake [red] // TSW Nurburgring 18x8 [gunmetal machined face]// DG Springs

  16. Junior Member erijavec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 9th, 2012
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    29
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG
    09-20-2012 11:05 AM #16
    I have a Passport GTimer that I've used on my GLI/DSG and it seems to be pretty accurate. I was able to achieve 6.8sec 0-60 numerous times but no better, with all stock components. I will be upgrading tires soon to Continental Summer tires and will retry the run. I'll post an update.

  17. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 4th, 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    545
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG Black Metallic Pearl
    09-20-2012 11:28 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilEmpire View Post

    I've been getting 6.1-6.3 0-60 times simply with better tires + Dogbone insert (No software, yet)

    Weather permitting, we're going to run the car at a 1/4 mile tomorrow with Stage 1 on/off
    Please update us with your results.
    GIAC - Stage 2 // SPM Street Downpipe // Neuspeed P-flo Intake [red] // TSW Nurburgring 18x8 [gunmetal machined face]// DG Springs

  18. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-20-2012 04:43 PM #18
    Somewhat on topic. Has anybody taken their stock or stockish GLI to a 1/4 mile track? I know magazines claim 15.2 1/4 mile (I am pretty sure this was Car & Driver with a 6spd manual). Just curious to see what kind of numbers people are running.

  19. 09-20-2012 04:47 PM #19
    I might take mine out to local 1/8 mile and run it there just to see.

  20. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-20-2012 04:57 PM #20
    A couple of friends are planning to go to the local strip tomorrow evening if the rain holds off. Supposed to be mid-low 60's.. Only 700 miles on mine but might make a couple of passes, haha.

  21. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-21-2012 02:20 PM #21
    30% chance of rain here.. going to make some passes for sure as long as the rain holds off. Mid-low 60's this evening.. hoping for some good air. I will be really upset if I dont crack into the 14's. *bone stock manual*

  22. Member PrivateTucker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 5th, 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    391
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI DSG
    09-21-2012 02:40 PM #22
    Carbonio Stage 1 intake only - 15.1@94. No ESP button installed.

    Also note, those who switch programs, I've read the car has to relearn its stuff, so you won't be running optimally right after switching programming.
    Jason
    2012 VW GLI - Frost Silver Metallic - APR Stage 2
    Photos from Scooters GTG (2012) - http://imgur.com/a/26p7M
    Photos from Dubs in the Valley (2012) - http://imgur.com/a/9X2kI

  23. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 13th, 2011
    Location
    Montreal
    Posts
    271
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI
    09-21-2012 02:50 PM #23
    rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.

    PrivateTucker, just intake? no stage 1?

  24. Member PrivateTucker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 5th, 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    391
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI DSG
    09-21-2012 02:55 PM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Mre2099 View Post
    rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.

    PrivateTucker, just intake? no stage 1?
    Correct. I did a baseline run so when I went to stage 2, I'd see the straight-line improvement. However, due to issues with my particular downpipe, I have not been able to get my car there to do a run, for stage 2. I also had traction issues because of stock tires and no ESP off. I am willing to bet, with traction and a good 60' time (I think mine was 2.6/2.7), just under 15 might be doable. This day was also hot, with a track temp of over 90.
    Jason
    2012 VW GLI - Frost Silver Metallic - APR Stage 2
    Photos from Scooters GTG (2012) - http://imgur.com/a/26p7M
    Photos from Dubs in the Valley (2012) - http://imgur.com/a/9X2kI

  25. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-21-2012 02:56 PM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Mre2099 View Post
    rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.

    PrivateTucker, just intake? no stage 1?
    Yeah, probably right. Doesn't hurt to be optimistic though.

  26. Member
    Join Date
    Nov 17th, 2006
    Location
    Stamford, CT
    Posts
    511
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn Platinum Grey
    09-21-2012 05:32 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Maringa View Post
    Best guess from anyone who has done this...

    Edmunds states that stock 0-60mph on GLI is roughly 7 seconds...

    The GTI R has a low 6 second 0-60 mph with similar horsepower/torque as an APR chipped unit.

    Is it everyone's best guess that you gain about 1 second with an APR chip?

    Anyone ever actually time 0-60 mph on APR stage1?
    I haven't timed my GLI, but, I have the Downpipe System from APR and their ECU Stage II Upgrade(93Octane) and I'll tell you what, IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CAR. In a REALLY GOOD way of course. I'd guess my 0-60 Times are low 6's without a doubt. If you're questioning whether you should get the upgrade or not, GET IT!

  27. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 4th, 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    545
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG Black Metallic Pearl
    09-21-2012 07:26 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Mre2099 View Post
    rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.
    Someone on here recorded 14.8 bone stock with OEM tires and even provided a scan of the time slip as proof. I can't find the thread right now though. Maybe he'll chime in.
    GIAC - Stage 2 // SPM Street Downpipe // Neuspeed P-flo Intake [red] // TSW Nurburgring 18x8 [gunmetal machined face]// DG Springs

  28. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-21-2012 08:07 PM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by PeeLo801 View Post
    Someone on here recorded 14.8 bone stock with OEM tires and even provided a scan of the time slip as proof. I can't find the thread right now though. Maybe he'll chime in.
    I believe it. My first pass with a 2.5 60ft was a 15.17 @ 95.6
    No doubt it's going 14's

  29. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-21-2012 09:41 PM #29
    14.85 @ 95.7 2.3 60ft will post slips later..

  30. Member BetterDays's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 13th, 2012
    Location
    Northern Ohio
    Posts
    190
    Vehicles
    2013 GLI Autobahn w/ Nav; APR Stage I
    09-21-2012 09:45 PM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by rwp View Post
    14.85 @ 95.7 2.3 60ft will post slips later..
    NICE!

  31. Member
    Join Date
    Aug 24th, 2012
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    287
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI M6
    09-21-2012 09:56 PM #31

  32. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    09-21-2012 11:40 PM #32
    ^

  33. Member
    Join Date
    Apr 4th, 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    545
    Vehicles
    2012 GLI Autobahn DSG Black Metallic Pearl
    09-22-2012 12:25 AM #33
    there we go!
    GIAC - Stage 2 // SPM Street Downpipe // Neuspeed P-flo Intake [red] // TSW Nurburgring 18x8 [gunmetal machined face]// DG Springs

  34. 09-22-2012 04:06 PM #34
    Thanks everyone for the info...I am planning to get one sometime next June (after I pass my existing car to my son when he turns 16). I wonder if VW is going to put the upgraded 2.0T in the 2014 Jetta's.

  35. Member mattng06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 20th, 2012
    Location
    Lake St Louis, MO
    Posts
    407
    Vehicles
    2012 VW GLI DSG/ Tornado Red
    10-04-2012 12:32 AM #35
    GLI with DSG, and Nuespeed intake, no tune. 17k miles on it - LEFT LANE
    Last edited by mattng06; 10-04-2012 at 12:40 AM.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts