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    Thread: GLI 0-60 times stock vs APR Stage 1

    1. 09-19-2012 03:01 PM #1
      Best guess from anyone who has done this...

      Edmunds states that stock 0-60mph on GLI is roughly 7 seconds...

      The GTI R has a low 6 second 0-60 mph with similar horsepower/torque as an APR chipped unit.

      Is it everyone's best guess that you gain about 1 second with an APR chip?

      Anyone ever actually time 0-60 mph on APR stage1?

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      09-19-2012 03:19 PM #2
      I've been using an app on my Iphone and getting 6.4-6.7 to 60. The app is off, by the time it shows im doing 60 on the app, im almost doing 70. The only upgrade i have is a Nuespeed intake, i doubt that really makes a big difference in time.
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    3. 09-19-2012 05:16 PM #3
      Thanks....forgive me for not fully understanding...but I am assuming your car is stock vs. chipped...correct?

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      09-19-2012 05:23 PM #4
      I don't think 7 is right, I think it's more like 6, especially with the DSG. It would be interesting to see what the real number is, I remember seeing something about the GTI being 5.9.

      I have no experience with it, but I can't imagine the APR tune shaving a full second off of that. Maybe half a second at most, unless you have slicks or something.

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      09-19-2012 06:34 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
      The only upgrade i have is a Nuespeed intake, i doubt that really makes a big difference in time.
      Quote Originally Posted by Maringa View Post
      Thanks....forgive me for not fully understanding...but I am assuming your car is stock vs. chipped...correct?
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      09-19-2012 06:42 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Maringa View Post
      Thanks....forgive me for not fully understanding...but I am assuming your car is stock vs. chipped...correct?
      Yea my car is stock except for the Intake. I would assume its close to 6 seconds flat with a DSG.

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      09-19-2012 06:50 PM #7
      Even with dsg, I hardly doubt a GLI can pull off low 6's on 0-60 times. With a tune, possibly.

      I have stage 2 now and my car--with these oem dunlops--couldn't hold traction from 1st to 2nd if my life depended on it, so even for my tuned GLI, low 6's is unfathomable unless I upgrade to better tires.
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      09-19-2012 06:51 PM #8
      i have yet to see an "official" 0-60 time for a stock GLI, theyre all over the place (5.9, 6.2, 6.5, 6.8),
      personally i think with DSG its close to around 6 seconds, but VW's website says 6.8, although brands usually post very conservative times. As for stage 1, assuming that stock with DSG is around 6 seconds, I would think between 5.6-5.9 is achievable with different rubber and ESP off switch...i think the Golf R is rated at 5.6-5.8 stock. Sorry, these are just my guestimates, nobody can really say for sure because it varies with the driver. Need the Stig to help us out with this one...
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      09-19-2012 07:25 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by PeeLo801 View Post
      Even with dsg, I hardly doubt a GLI can pull off low 6's on 0-60 times. With a tune, possibly.

      I have stage 2 now and my car--with these oem dunlops--couldn't hold traction from 1st to 2nd if my life depended on it, so even for my tuned GLI, low 6's is unfathomable unless I upgrade to better tires.
      Did you install a ESP button if not your basically accelerating like a stock GLI in first. My times were only off an app on my iphone. Does no one on here have a VBOX? And from what i heard those Dunlops suck?

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      09-19-2012 08:03 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
      And from what i heard those Dunlops suck?
      This is true, I feel like they sap a lot from the car's acceleration and handling, and especially braking new tires are going on in the summer though, but I'll keep these all seasons for next winter...
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      09-19-2012 08:09 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by apmarsh44 View Post
      As for stage 1, assuming that stock with DSG is around 6 seconds, I would think between 5.6-5.9 is achievable with different rubber and ESP off switch...i think the Golf R is rated at 5.6-5.8 stock. Sorry, these are just my guestimates, nobody can really say for sure because it varies with the driver. Need the Stig to help us out with this one...
      I agree that the 0-60 times would be improved dramatically with traction control AND launch control (DSG).

      Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
      Did you install a ESP button if not your basically accelerating like a stock GLI in first. My times were only off an app on my iphone. Does no one on here have a VBOX? And from what i heard those Dunlops suck?
      No I have not retrofitted the traction control nor do I have any intention to. I don't anticipate ever taking my car to the track. Regarding the dunlops, they're decent all-season tires IMO, but not for the kind of driving that some people here would aspire to (because racecar ). I personally am fine with them since like I mentioned, the most I would ever push my car is spirited driving through twisties and on-ramps, nothing more.
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      09-19-2012 08:54 PM #12
      Using an app on my phone with stage 2 ecu tune and esp mod quickest 0-60 was 5.3. Running stock Dunlop's it just spins till about 38 mph. Stock my quickest time was 6.4. I had Dsg flashed with hpa stage 2 but never timed a launch control takeoff. It really just smoked the tires more than anything.

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      09-19-2012 09:56 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by frandre View Post
      Using an app on my phone with stage 2 ecu tune and esp mod quickest 0-60 was 5.3. Running stock Dunlop's it just spins till about 38 mph. Stock my quickest time was 6.4. I had Dsg flashed with hpa stage 2 but never timed a launch control takeoff. It really just smoked the tires more than anything.

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      09-19-2012 10:02 PM #14
      No I have not retrofitted the traction control nor do I have any intention to. I don't anticipate ever taking my car to the track. Regarding the dunlops, they're decent all-season tires IMO, but not for the kind of driving that some people here would aspire to (because racecar ). I personally am fine with them since like I mentioned, the most I would ever push my car is spirited driving through twisties and on-ramps, nothing more.[/QUOTE]

      Its good to retrofit the traction control for a few reasons. 1. Your brake pads last longer if you accelerate hard from a dig a lot. 2. If you're ever in the snow its going to help you get out. 3. Whats the point of adding hp if your car is going to restrict how you accelerate. you can turn off the traction control in a Honda civic, im sure its for a good reason wouldnt you agree? They dont add these things for no reason.... Do they???

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      09-19-2012 11:07 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by mattng06 View Post
      Its good to retrofit the traction control for a few reasons. 1. Your brake pads last longer if you accelerate hard from a dig a lot. 2. If you're ever in the snow its going to help you get out. 3. Whats the point of adding hp if your car is going to restrict how you accelerate. you can turn off the traction control in a Honda civic, im sure its for a good reason wouldnt you agree? They dont add these things for no reason.... Do they???
      I realize that there's certain upsides to it, but I really don't see the absolute need for it, at least not right now anyway. I didn't get a tune to race my car. I got it simply because of my need for speed I wanted a faster car, and a tune with bolt ons was the best bang for buck for me. The only HP it's restricting is from launch and from spirited turns. Other than these circumstances, the traction control isn't restricting any more of my car's hp.

      It doesn't snow in my area so I don't need to worry about that either. I have a subaru anyways for when I do go snowboarding, and even then I usually go on powder days rather than stormy days.
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      09-20-2012 12:05 PM #16
      I have a Passport GTimer that I've used on my GLI/DSG and it seems to be pretty accurate. I was able to achieve 6.8sec 0-60 numerous times but no better, with all stock components. I will be upgrading tires soon to Continental Summer tires and will retry the run. I'll post an update.

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      09-20-2012 12:28 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilEmpire View Post

      I've been getting 6.1-6.3 0-60 times simply with better tires + Dogbone insert (No software, yet)

      Weather permitting, we're going to run the car at a 1/4 mile tomorrow with Stage 1 on/off
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      09-20-2012 05:43 PM #18
      Somewhat on topic. Has anybody taken their stock or stockish GLI to a 1/4 mile track? I know magazines claim 15.2 1/4 mile (I am pretty sure this was Car & Driver with a 6spd manual). Just curious to see what kind of numbers people are running.

    19. 09-20-2012 05:47 PM #19
      I might take mine out to local 1/8 mile and run it there just to see.

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      09-20-2012 05:57 PM #20
      A couple of friends are planning to go to the local strip tomorrow evening if the rain holds off. Supposed to be mid-low 60's.. Only 700 miles on mine but might make a couple of passes, haha.

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      09-21-2012 03:20 PM #21
      30% chance of rain here.. going to make some passes for sure as long as the rain holds off. Mid-low 60's this evening.. hoping for some good air. I will be really upset if I dont crack into the 14's. *bone stock manual*

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      09-21-2012 03:40 PM #22
      Carbonio Stage 1 intake only - 15.1@94. No ESP button installed.

      Also note, those who switch programs, I've read the car has to relearn its stuff, so you won't be running optimally right after switching programming.
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      09-21-2012 03:50 PM #23
      rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.

      PrivateTucker, just intake? no stage 1?

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      09-21-2012 03:55 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Mre2099 View Post
      rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.

      PrivateTucker, just intake? no stage 1?
      Correct. I did a baseline run so when I went to stage 2, I'd see the straight-line improvement. However, due to issues with my particular downpipe, I have not been able to get my car there to do a run, for stage 2. I also had traction issues because of stock tires and no ESP off. I am willing to bet, with traction and a good 60' time (I think mine was 2.6/2.7), just under 15 might be doable. This day was also hot, with a track temp of over 90.
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      09-21-2012 03:56 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Mre2099 View Post
      rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.

      PrivateTucker, just intake? no stage 1?
      Yeah, probably right. Doesn't hurt to be optimistic though.

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      09-21-2012 06:32 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Maringa View Post
      Best guess from anyone who has done this...

      Edmunds states that stock 0-60mph on GLI is roughly 7 seconds...

      The GTI R has a low 6 second 0-60 mph with similar horsepower/torque as an APR chipped unit.

      Is it everyone's best guess that you gain about 1 second with an APR chip?

      Anyone ever actually time 0-60 mph on APR stage1?
      I haven't timed my GLI, but, I have the Downpipe System from APR and their ECU Stage II Upgrade(93Octane) and I'll tell you what, IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CAR. In a REALLY GOOD way of course. I'd guess my 0-60 Times are low 6's without a doubt. If you're questioning whether you should get the upgrade or not, GET IT!

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      09-21-2012 08:26 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Mre2099 View Post
      rwp, there's no way your cracking 14's with bone stock.
      Someone on here recorded 14.8 bone stock with OEM tires and even provided a scan of the time slip as proof. I can't find the thread right now though. Maybe he'll chime in.
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      09-21-2012 09:07 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by PeeLo801 View Post
      Someone on here recorded 14.8 bone stock with OEM tires and even provided a scan of the time slip as proof. I can't find the thread right now though. Maybe he'll chime in.
      I believe it. My first pass with a 2.5 60ft was a 15.17 @ 95.6
      No doubt it's going 14's

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      09-21-2012 10:41 PM #29
      14.85 @ 95.7 2.3 60ft will post slips later..

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      09-21-2012 10:45 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by rwp View Post
      14.85 @ 95.7 2.3 60ft will post slips later..
      NICE!

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      09-22-2012 01:25 AM #33
      there we go!
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    34. 09-22-2012 05:06 PM #34
      Thanks everyone for the info...I am planning to get one sometime next June (after I pass my existing car to my son when he turns 16). I wonder if VW is going to put the upgraded 2.0T in the 2014 Jetta's.

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      10-04-2012 01:32 AM #35
      GLI with DSG, and Nuespeed intake, no tune. 17k miles on it - LEFT LANE
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