Probably the MKVIII knowing VW.
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"The long-stroke 2.0 TFSI in the Audi S3 has been developed from scratch. The only thing it has in common with its predecessor, which was named Engine of the Year five times in a row between 2005 and 2009, is its displacement of 1,984 cc (bore x stroke 82.5 x 92.8 millimeters [3.25 x 3.65 in]). The four-cylinder unit delivers a constant 380 Nm (280.27 lb-ft) of torque to the crankshaft between 1,800 and 5,500 rpm. Rated power at 5,500 rpm is 221 kW (300 hp), and the engine redlines at 6,800 rpm".Source: http://www.audizine.com/news/news.php?nid=269&npid=334
Think this has any relevance to the MK7 R output?
DBP Mk VI. Some stuff here and there.
I'm not sure why this is a surprise. We've been saying (and others) that the Golf R will likely be around 280hp. Audi will likely make sure that the R gets less horsepower than the S3 since the S3 will be quite a bit more expensive. However it is the same engine, just tuned to a little less horsepower.
Tuning potential of this new 2.0T should be great. Not only that, but this new version of the 2.0T will be built in Mexico at the new engine factory alongside the new 1.8T FSI. So expect this new 2.0T to replace the current 2.0T in all VW models.
There’s more to it than that, though. I feel the fast Golf is a part of me. We’ve grown up together. When it came along, all simple and full of fun, I was living in a flat in London. Now it’s soft and luxurious and I’m slouched in a house in the Cotswolds. It’s like 1970s rock music. New stuff comes along which I’m sure is cleaner and better produced but it doesn’t have the heart and soul of the original.
To me, VW Audi have made all models even more similar using the Modular assembly platform. The new Leon, A3, and Golf look more alike than ever before. I do agree with audi power greater than vw...however that will be for sure the new Golf R engine and if "detuned" my guess is to 295 hp
2012 VW Amarok TDI
2011 Kia Sportage Revolution 2.0 TDI 177hp
2.0l just seems to be the most efficient way to build a powerful inline-4 cylinder engine with forced induction.
yearly tax in Germany after 2009:
VW Golf R32 mkV: €314
VW Golf R mkVI: €218
Of course fuel and insurance costs are way higher than that so it wont make much of a difference for most people.
The primary reason for manufacturers to go for downsized engines is their advantge in the official consumption tests in the NEFZ (European EPA counterpart). This lowers the manufacturers fleet consumption which is essential to meet the harsh EU limits for co2 emissions and avoid fines.
I know the whole climate and co2 discussion is a bunch of HS but the EUDSSR reigns supreme and manufacturers have to bow if their lobbyists fail.
But hey the only disadvantge of the 2 liter engines is their sound and turbolag.
Last edited by flexxGER; 09-24-2012 at 08:34 AM.