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      09-26-2012 09:26 AM #106
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      I think there's one thing most of us can learn from this delightful thread. I think we should all thank our parents and/or guardians for the fine, fine job they did raising (most of) us properly; stressing the importance of staying away from drugs, proper use of the English language, carrying oneself in a manner befitting your age, when to act with a degree of humility and how to be respectful. Enjoying fine spirits with moderation...

      Thanks mom and dad for not allowing me to turn out like that guy.


      Now that I think about it, maybe I'll just say thanks for not drinking whilst pregnant and/or dropping me down the stairs as an infant.
      Could it be that we are now starting to see the side-effects of the trophy generation? A whole generation of young adults that have been shielded from negativity? When I was young, I was taught to deal with bullies and negativity, but today it seems that the solution is to eliminate bullies and negativity, leaving a whole generation not prepared for it.

      Pop quiz: The proper reply to, "LOL your car sucks" is:
      a) Nothing
      b) "I like it a lot, sorry we don't see eye-to-eye. "
      c) Single application of "F**K YOU YOU SUCK, SAY THAT TO MY FACE YOU ASS JERK !!!!"
      d) Non stop applications of c.

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      09-26-2012 09:37 AM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by McBanagon View Post
      Could it be that we are now starting to see the side-effects of the trophy generation? A whole generation of young adults that have been shielded from negativity? When I was young, I was taught to deal with bullies and negativity, but today it seems that the solution is to eliminate bullies and negativity, leaving a whole generation not prepared for it.

      Pop quiz: The proper reply to, "LOL your car sucks" is:
      a) Nothing
      b) "I like it a lot, sorry we don't see eye-to-eye. "
      c) Single application of "F**K YOU YOU SUCK, SAY THAT TO MY FACE YOU ASS JERK !!!!"
      d) Non stop applications of c.
      Exactly! I learned from a young age that I was never going to be a tough kid so I had to be able to out smart the kids who saw me as a target. And by golly it worked. Even the bullies learned quickly enough that I wasn't worth their time. It seems that kids no longer get the tools they need to live, the just get handed everything they ask for like their entitled to it.

      Oh, and you forgot option e) "YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS!"

      Because clearly there's no grasp on what the actual meaning of jealousy is.
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      09-26-2012 09:57 AM #108

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      09-27-2012 03:35 PM #109
      haha still just a bunch of haters i see


      please, continue hating.
      thats the purpose of the thread...

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      09-27-2012 03:38 PM #110
      hey banagon come to colorado. virginia is for faggets

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      09-27-2012 03:49 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by dub_slug View Post
      haha still just a bunch of haters i see

      please, continue hating.
      thats the purpose of the thread...
      I'm just going to quote what somebody said on another auto forum regarding "stance".

      "As far as 'styles' go there is relatively no wrong way to tune or modify a car. However, can you honestly tell me that a car with negative 5 degrees of camber and super stretched tires is safe to drive? Absolutely not. At that point, it's not a question of good taste, bad taste, or 'style' It's common sense and lack thereof.

      Should I support someone who is putting their own life at risk, as well as everyone else around them in an attempt to be "trendy" "ill" or "flush"? Absolutely not. People can call me a hater, or whatever that fvck they want, but at the end of the day, that sh!t is unsafe, no if's and's or but's."


      Now, my friend, I am not "hating" or being a "hater". Those are extremely ignorant and stupid sounding words anyway. I'm simply pointing out that your vehicle and others like it are incredibly unsafe. Just because you haven't had a tire blow out or had suspension components fail on you yet does not mean it isn't going to happen. I don't care if you spin out of control and kill yourself trying to get over a road reflector, but it makes me upset that there are innocent people out there who's lives you are endangering in an effort to look cool.

      TL;DR
      Stance is unsafe and you are putting innocent lives at risk.
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    7. 09-27-2012 03:58 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      I'm just going to quote what somebody said on another auto forum regarding "stance".

      "As far as 'styles' go there is relatively no wrong way to tune or modify a car. However, can you honestly tell me that a car with negative 5 degrees of camber and super stretched tires is safe to drive? Absolutely not. At that point, it's not a question of good taste, bad taste, or 'style' It's common sense and lack thereof.

      Should I support someone who is putting their own life at risk, as well as everyone else around them in an attempt to be "trendy" "ill" or "flush"? Absolutely not. People can call me a hater, or whatever that fvck they want, but at the end of the day, that sh!t is unsafe, no if's and's or but's."


      Now, my friend, I am not "hating" or being a "hater". Those are extremely ignorant and stupid sounding words anyway. I'm simply pointing out that your vehicle and others like it are incredibly unsafe. Just because you haven't had a tire blow out or had suspension components fail on you yet does not mean it isn't going to happen. I don't care if you spin out of control and kill yourself trying to get over a road reflector, but it makes me upset that there are innocent people out there who's lives you are endangering in an effort to look cool.

      TL;DR
      Stance is unsafe and you are putting innocent lives at risk.
      GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS

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      09-27-2012 04:02 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      I'm just going to quote what somebody said on another auto forum regarding "stance".

      "As far as 'styles' go there is relatively no wrong way to tune or modify a car. However, can you honestly tell me that a car with negative 5 degrees of camber and super stretched tires is safe to drive? Absolutely not. At that point, it's not a question of good taste, bad taste, or 'style' It's common sense and lack thereof.

      Should I support someone who is putting their own life at risk, as well as everyone else around them in an attempt to be "trendy" "ill" or "flush"? Absolutely not. People can call me a hater, or whatever that fvck they want, but at the end of the day, that sh!t is unsafe, no if's and's or but's."


      Now, my friend, I am not "hating" or being a "hater". Those are extremely ignorant and stupid sounding words anyway. I'm simply pointing out that your vehicle and others like it are incredibly unsafe. Just because you haven't had a tire blow out or had suspension components fail on you yet does not mean it isn't going to happen. I don't care if you spin out of control and kill yourself trying to get over a road reflector, but it makes me upset that there are innocent people out there who's lives you are endangering in an effort to look cool.

      TL;DR
      Stance is unsafe and you are putting innocent lives at risk.
      the whole VIP/JDM scene is the starting point of the tacky, over-cambered "trendsetting" stance ****...

      stretched tires and riding low - in moderation - isnt a danger to anyone except your oil pan.. make sure the people youre going to quote while trying to prove a point, actually know wtf they are talking about.

      its been going on in europe for decades, now people are trying to bring it to the next level with these stupid "VIP" lexus' with some ****ty ed hardy wheels on the damn thing.

      go back and look at the conclusion of the stretched tire thread... the only nay-sayers were the idiots trying to throw in their opinon on something they have no experience... let alone run stretched tires or lower their cars.

      is the OP and idiot? thats a given.

      is every low car on stretched tires going to be a public hazard?

      no, thats about as misinformed as you can get.
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      09-27-2012 04:16 PM #114
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      09-27-2012 04:17 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      I'm just going to quote what somebody said on another auto forum regarding "stance".

      "As far as 'styles' go there is relatively no wrong way to tune or modify a car. However, can you honestly tell me that a car with negative 5 degrees of camber and super stretched tires is safe to drive? Absolutely not. At that point, it's not a question of good taste, bad taste, or 'style' It's common sense and lack thereof.

      Should I support someone who is putting their own life at risk, as well as everyone else around them in an attempt to be "trendy" "ill" or "flush"? Absolutely not. People can call me a hater, or whatever that fvck they want, but at the end of the day, that sh!t is unsafe, no if's and's or but's."


      Now, my friend, I am not "hating" or being a "hater". Those are extremely ignorant and stupid sounding words anyway. I'm simply pointing out that your vehicle and others like it are incredibly unsafe. Just because you haven't had a tire blow out or had suspension components fail on you yet does not mean it isn't going to happen. I don't care if you spin out of control and kill yourself trying to get over a road reflector, but it makes me upset that there are innocent people out there who's lives you are endangering in an effort to look cool.

      TL;DR
      Stance is unsafe and you are putting innocent lives at risk.
      stretched tires are fine.

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      09-28-2012 03:48 AM #116
      The whole stance trend doesn't bother me so much. What bothers me is the off chance that one of these 'stanced' cars will hit me, then their insurance won't pay because ther car was unsafe/unroadworthy/illegally modified.

      :-/
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      09-28-2012 04:08 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      I think there's one thing most of us can learn from this delightful thread. I think we should all thank our parents and/or guardians for the fine, fine job they did raising (most of) us properly; stressing the importance of staying away from drugs, proper use of the English language, carrying oneself in a manner befitting your age, when to act with a degree of humility and how to be respectful. Enjoying fine spirits with moderation...

      Thanks mom and dad for not allowing me to turn out like that guy.


      Now that I think about it, maybe I'll just say thanks for not drinking whilst pregnant and/or dropping me down the stairs as an infant.
      +1

      I thought the same thing as I read through this thread. We are likeminded people

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      09-28-2012 04:11 AM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by dub_slug View Post
      hey banagon come to colorado. virginia is for faggets
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      hey banagon come to colorado. virginia is for FAGGETS

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      Cant even spell it right

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      09-28-2012 07:32 AM #119
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      send me your address so you can talk in person. or phone number....
      ill pay you a visit.
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      hey banagon come to colorado. virginia is for faggets
      Not sure what a fagget is, why don't you pay me a visit to explain. I'm not going to post my address on a forum, but you can google my number to get it.

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      09-28-2012 07:35 AM #120
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      google my number
      did, and laughs were had by all
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      09-28-2012 08:03 AM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      Bwahahahahaha..... AAAAaahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....

      What the hell are you talking about? When your generation "runs this bitch" (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean) I really hope I'll be dead and gone because I wouldn't want to listen to your nonsensical babble anyway. Work on sounding somewhat intelligent, it'll get you a lot further than chest pumping and posturing.

      Also, learn to take criticism. You made the choice to post pics of your car in here knowing full well what people think of that style. It's not a friendly environment for that look. Then you start testiculating (that's when you wave your arms about whilst talking bollocks) that you're going to run the world or something. You're not making any sense, nor are you capitalizing letters at the beginning of a sentence... the rest of us learned to do that in 1st grade.

      If you want to get smoke blown up your arse about your car, go to stanceworks where you know you'll be in an environment of like-minded individuals. Alternatively, post your car and display a bit of humility. Be aware that not everyone will like it, but if you act like a grown up you'll automatically get more positive responses. Don't come in here with an attitude that you're the greatest fabricator on earth just because you rolled some fenders - guys have been doing that for eons. You ain't the first.
      Unfortunately, I'm part of "his" generation, but there always has to be a minority. While, yes I like cars lower, I'm talking 1-2"; I can still fit probably 3 fingers in my wheel gap and as a result my car doesn't handle like complete a go-kart. By the way, saying your car handles like a go-kart is basically telling everyone that no open drinks are allowed and no glass bottles because you will chip a tooth when you hit that pebble on the road you couldn't dodge.
      And congratulations on being able to throw all your money at your car brah. You can upgrade the **** out of it just to make it go fast in a straight line whilst rearranging your internal organs on fresh tarmac!
      Also, say you spent what? $12k on all that? (just pulling numbers out my anus) I guarantee just about everyone in here could build a Z that would outperform yours on the track with half that money, and IMO it would still look better.

      Idk who said it, but :
      "Stance is the new rice."
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      09-28-2012 09:01 AM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by McBanagon View Post
      Not sure what a fagget is, why don't you pay me a visit to explain. I'm not going to post my address on a forum, but you can google my number to get it.
      hahahahah

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      09-28-2012 09:31 AM #123
      I honestly have never seen such a hateful thread... outside of the civic forums that is. and even they conduct themselves in a less of a ape like manner

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      09-28-2012 09:47 AM #124
      This thread just enforces my theory: nothing good happens in Colorado.

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      09-28-2012 09:53 AM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by dub_slug View Post
      lol you guys still here???

      sorry was busy jacking my dick to pornhub.com


      well i bought wheels, new flywheel, up rev tuning, new intake and project kics lug nuts and spacers...
      sorry you don't approve. lol

      Wow, sorry to hear that's all the lovin' you're getting, no surprise though.


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      IMI dacono. ill be there all day thursday...abusing what you wish you could afford and what ill sell for more than you can afford...

      its not daily driven; its abused daily....
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      Can't wait for you to blow that motor all apart. And congrats on "drifting" your ZZZZZ's it should be fun putting that new of a car into a wall at high speeds
      But that won't happen because you are "just that good" right champ?
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      09-28-2012 11:31 AM #126
      Quote Originally Posted by x_GTI_x View Post
      the whole VIP/JDM scene is the starting point of the tacky, over-cambered "trendsetting" stance ****...

      stretched tires and riding low - in moderation - isnt a danger to anyone except your oil pan.. make sure the people youre going to quote while trying to prove a point, actually know wtf they are talking about.

      its been going on in europe for decades, now people are trying to bring it to the next level with these stupid "VIP" lexus' with some ****ty ed hardy wheels on the damn thing.

      go back and look at the conclusion of the stretched tire thread... the only nay-sayers were the idiots trying to throw in their opinon on something they have no experience... let alone run stretched tires or lower their cars.

      is the OP and idiot? thats a given.

      is every low car on stretched tires going to be a public hazard?

      no, thats about as misinformed as you can get.

      But you have to admit that a car with 215 tires on a 13 inch wide wheel running a thousand degrees of negative camber is going to be much less safe than 99% of the cars on the road. Running stretched tires puts you at greater risk for a blowout/tire failure at speed. That's the point I'm trying to make.
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      09-28-2012 11:39 AM #127
      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      But you have to admit that a car with 215 tires on a 13 inch wide wheel running a thousand degrees of negative camber is going to be much less safe than 99% of the cars on the road. Running stretched tires puts you at greater risk for a blowout/tire failure at speed. That's the point I'm trying to make.
      Not only that, but with crazy camber you're going to have much less rubber on the road. Good luck braking hard when you need to.

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      09-28-2012 11:58 AM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      But you have to admit that a car with 215 tires on a 13 inch wide wheel running a thousand degrees of negative camber is going to be much less safe than 99% of the cars on the road. Running stretched tires puts you at greater risk for a blowout/tire failure at speed. That's the point I'm trying to make.
      No it doesn't.

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      09-28-2012 02:54 PM #129
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      No it doesn't.
      Tires stretched onto a rim require less force to unseat the beat than a properly fitted/sized tire since the sidewall is under more tension. Now what are the chances that you will hit a pothole within the window of force that will unseat a stretched tire but not a correctly sized tire? Probably not much, but the risk is there and is increased.
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      09-28-2012 03:46 PM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by drecian View Post
      Tires stretched onto a rim require less force to unseat the beat than a properly fitted/sized tire since the sidewall is under more tension. Now what are the chances that you will hit a pothole within the window of force that will unseat a stretched tire but not a correctly sized tire? Probably not much, but the risk is there and is increased.
      Actually harder to unseat it.

      when it's sitting like \_____/ that and you're putting pressure onto it, it's pushing the ends of the tire into the lips of the wheel and keeping it on.

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      09-28-2012 04:36 PM #131
      Quote Originally Posted by Crimping Is Easy View Post
      But you have to admit that a car with 215 tires on a 13 inch wide wheel running a thousand degrees of negative camber is going to be much less safe than 99% of the cars on the road. Running stretched tires puts you at greater risk for a blowout/tire failure at speed. That's the point I'm trying to make.
      Quote Originally Posted by Shmi View Post
      Not only that, but with crazy camber you're going to have much less rubber on the road. Good luck braking hard when you need to.
      I wasnt trying to argue, im simply saying done in moderation, the effects are negligible. Obviously pushing anything to the limits is just asking for it. Im not a huge fan of running ridiculous camber or any of that junk, so im not going to defend that side of things.

      anything over -3 just seems absurd in the rear.

      Quote Originally Posted by drecian View Post
      Tires stretched onto a rim require less force to unseat the beat than a properly fitted/sized tire since the sidewall is under more tension. Now what are the chances that you will hit a pothole within the window of force that will unseat a stretched tire but not a correctly sized tire? Probably not much, but the risk is there and is increased.
      I daily drive a 215/40 on 9.5" wheel which is a decent/moderate stretch... it took over 100 psi. to get the bead to seat, compared to the normal 30-50 psi to fit a regular tire.

      it in no way makes the tire easier to unbead unless youre running 5psi or something and try going dorifto around a corner.

      i run them at 38-40 psi and havent had so much as a slight air leak... with some of the construction ive ran into during my commute on the mass pike, if that doesnt unseat something then Im not too worried about it.

      not to say it cant happen, but regardless of stretch, a tire can fail at anytime in numerous conditions.
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Actually harder to unseat it.

      when it's sitting like \_____/ that and you're putting pressure onto it, it's pushing the ends of the tire into the lips of the wheel and keeping it on.
      ^indeed.
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      09-28-2012 05:16 PM #132
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Actually harder to unseat it.

      when it's sitting like \_____/ that and you're putting pressure onto it, it's pushing the ends of the tire into the lips of the wheel and keeping it on.
      You can't possibly apply "positive" force to one bead of the tire without applying "negative" force to the opposite bead...



      And let's be honest; they aren't worried about a blow-out because they have to slow to a crawl before they hit any sort of bump in the road
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      09-29-2012 01:27 AM #135
      guys can you please tell me if my emkaaay 4 is low enough??



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      09-29-2012 01:32 AM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by mikebuffer View Post
      guys can you please tell me if my emkaaay 4 is low enough??


      thanks!
      If you have to ask, lower it.

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      09-29-2012 01:36 AM #137
      i thought soooo..i havent really severely damaged anything yet so i must go lower.
      I'm sry you had bad experiences at church bud, thanks boradie

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      09-29-2012 03:34 AM #139
      lol. youre all a bunch of losers

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      you're still talking? no one listens to old f a gs like you
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