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    10-06-2012 12:52 PM #36
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    Ellery, you're gonna get me in trouble. lol
    i dont see any problem here.

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    10-07-2012 03:49 PM #37
    I took the supercharger kit off my red R32 and found oil in the air intake and piping. What can cause this and can it affect performance? Has anybody relocated the pcv on the vf kits?
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    10-07-2012 06:28 PM #38
    Quote Originally Posted by anerness View Post
    I took the supercharger kit off my red R32 and found oil in the air intake and piping. What can cause this and can it affect performance? Has anybody relocated the pcv on the vf kits?

    Yes, I will post up some pics later...This is kinda the first common subject for this new thread.

    Oil in the intake tube/fouled MAF=Running like crap and less power due to lower octane.

    Fix=Re-engineer to remove the VF Engineering PCV setup

    Pics and story to follow

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    10-08-2012 12:04 AM #39
    Quote Originally Posted by vwgeorge2 View Post
    Yes, I will post up some pics later...This is kinda the first common subject for this new thread.

    Oil in the intake tube/fouled MAF=Running like crap and less power due to lower octane.

    Fix=Re-engineer to remove the VF Engineering PCV setup

    Pics and story to follow
    As soon as I saw the oil I knew something was up. Can you give me some more details on the pcv delete/move to a new spot?
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    10-08-2012 02:53 AM #40
    Quote Originally Posted by anerness View Post
    As soon as I saw the oil I knew something was up. Can you give me some more details on the pcv delete/move to a new spot?

    Ok details...The VF kit is vented into the intake, the intake is kinda small so its creates a vacuum at high RPM's sucking the gunk and oil vapor out of the head onto your MAF and into your boost tubes/engine etc. This oil now mixes with your fuel/air mixture makeing your R32 into a weed eater burning all that oil.

    The fix is to NOT vent into the intake tube...

    Vortech vents their kits straight into the bottom of the airfilter, the bottom of the air filter has negligible vacuum even at high RPM's. So the small amount of vapors coming out of the PCV vent hole still get sucked into the intake system but its done properly without mess or smell...

    Its just that simple
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    10-16-2012 02:53 AM #41
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    10-16-2012 10:20 AM #42
    If any one happens to come across a 2.4" - 2.5" pulley for sale, can you please bring it to my attention via a PM? That would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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    10-16-2012 12:14 PM #43
    You could get one machined? My buddy had one made by a local machine shop for ~$200

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    Didn't really think of that.. Price isn't too bad either. Hell, then I could make a 6 rib..

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    10-16-2012 01:05 PM #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Sku96 View Post
    Pat Skumanick

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    Welcome Pat, you are our first Stage 1 on the list!

    Hows the car run? have you put it on the dyno?



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    One day i will be on here.

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    10-16-2012 08:12 PM #47
    It is AMAZING. I still am having some problems with the UM tune but that should be worked out when I head back to PA...It does not help having crappy 91 on post when the tune is for 93 either. I will put it on the rollers when I have everything straightened out. I will do a couple runs in its current state, and then throw on a different pulley and run it again.

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    10-17-2012 09:15 AM #48
    HI GUYS MY NAME IS STAN I LIVE IN NYC BOUGHT MY R SUPERCHARGED ALREADY LAST JANUARY IN MASSACHUSETTS IT WAS A VF ENGINEERING STAGE 2 KIT WITH GIAC TUNE
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    10-17-2012 09:31 AM #49
    I DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO THE CAR UNTIL THIS WEEK IT'S AT TYROLSPORT AS WE SPEAK THEY ARE CHANGING THE KIT UP FOR ME ALITTLE ITS GOING BACK TO AN OEM MAF SENSOR, 630CC INJECTORS, TECHTONICS 264/260 CAMS, SMALLER PULLEY AND AN UNITED MOTORSPORTS CUSTOM FLASH WITH LAUNCH CONTROL AND NO LIFT SHIFT ALSO THEY SAY I WILL FEEL A BIG DIFFERENCE BEFORE THESE UPGRADES THE CAR ONLY MADE 265AWHP
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    10-23-2012 03:52 PM #51
    Quote Originally Posted by killakowal View Post
    HI GUYS MY NAME IS STAN I LIVE IN NYC BOUGHT MY R SUPERCHARGED ALREADY LAST JANUARY IN MASSACHUSETTS IT WAS A VF ENGINEERING STAGE 2 KIT WITH GIAC TUNE
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    Welcome Stan...

    Any updates on your car @ Tyrol?


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    10-25-2012 06:27 AM #52
    yes i got the car back from tyrol last week and the car feels like a whole different car what a difference

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    10-26-2012 10:15 AM #53
    Hi Bill and all the SC'd Guys. Thought I'd post something here.

    I was one of the first guys that got a stage 4 supercharger installed. It came with a Vortech V9 blower that lasted me for about 1K miles. All 20 stage 3 & 4's had the V9 replaced with the V2 which is a bigger blower and is able to handle the power of this kit.

    I 've had it in for 27K miles now and have never touched it except to replace the belt at 15K. It runs great. Starts up everytime and produces some nice HP. Always puts a smile on my face.

    A few pics.






  19. 10-26-2012 02:04 PM #54
    Hey guys, I am really inspired by what you have done with the R. When I go FI, this is the route I would like to take as well. The difficulty I am having is there isn't any such kits available for sale and guess one needs to assemble the necessary parts. Any advice and pointer how I can start this journey?? Appreciate your help.

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    10-26-2012 04:40 PM #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Goodboy1451 View Post
    Hey guys, I am really inspired by what you have done with the R. When I go FI, this is the route I would like to take as well. The difficulty I am having is there isn't any such kits available for sale and guess one needs to assemble the necessary parts. Any advice and pointer how I can start this journey?? Appreciate your help.

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    Here is your kit if your ready= http://www.hpamotorsport.com/typhoon.htm


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    10-26-2012 05:37 PM #56
    Quote Originally Posted by NJVWR32 View Post
    Hi Bill and all the SC'd Guys. Thought I'd post something here.

    I was one of the first guys that got a stage 4 supercharger installed. It came with a Vortech V9 blower that lasted me for about 1K miles. All 20 stage 3 & 4's had the V9 replaced with the V2 which is a bigger blower and is able to handle the power of this kit.

    I 've had it in for 27K miles now and have never touched it except to replace the belt at 15K. It runs great. Starts up everytime and produces some nice HP. Always puts a smile on my face.

    A few pics.


    Hey Pat, I didnt remember you was one of the Stage 4 pioneers? Can you tell me/us a few bits of the story for historical reasons? I knew chef Jay was one of the oldies but not you lol. Your dyno is really good, I would love to know the AFR's for the giac tune. Anyway great to see your post.

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    10-26-2012 06:55 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by vwgeorge2 View Post
    Hey Pat, I didnt remember you was one of the Stage 4 pioneers? Can you tell me/us a few bits of the story for historical reasons? I knew chef Jay was one of the oldies but not you lol. Your dyno is really good, I would love to know the AFR's for the giac tune. Anyway great to see your post.

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    Yeah Bill,

    I was in line to get the kit when it was being developed. Here's my story.

    1st mods were a chip that I had done at AWE (GIAC), a intake, EIP exhaust. Nice power over stock. Still looking for more power I got some Techtonic 260/264 cams. Better power. Car ran great. Loved it.

    I started going to some GTG's in PA at Scott's (Race) in 2006. Showing up were 2 EIP turbo cars (Kent and Rob) and 1 with a stage 2 SC. The FI cars were the ones that everybody were drawn to.

    EIP and VF were the only ones that were making FI for our cars. HPA would be coming out with a kit soon but only rich people could afford it.

    After driving down to EIP and riding in their Stage 2 turbo car I decided to go with a stage 2 SC.

    I was told by VF that I would have to remove the cams cause they wouldn't work with the software that came with the stage 2 kit. Something that I did not want to do. But I was told that they were developing a stage 4 kit that needed cams. It would be out in 3 months. So I put my name on the list and had it mailed to AWE who installed it.

    I drove it very carefully for the 1st 1K as I was told to do. After that I started opening it up and about 3 weeks later while pushing it to 6000 rpm's it sounded like glass braking in the charger. Thing blew up. Bearings, I guess.

    I cut the belt that went to the blower and drove around like that for months while VF decided what to do with all the blown chargers. It was decided that they would replace about 20 of them free of charge. This was the period of a guy named (SMASH) was causing a big fuss about the whole thing and ended up getting banned from Vortex.

    At this time we were offered a great deal if we switched to the Turbo that VF was developing but I decided to stay SC'ed. Some did switch and were happy with the decision.

    This all cost VF so much money that they decided to stop production on the stage 3&4 kits and just stay with the stage 1 & 2 which are still available today.

    As I said before, I am happy with my Kit and it has been running very good for 27K.

    That's about it for now.

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    10-26-2012 10:49 PM #58
    Quote Originally Posted by NJVWR32 View Post
    Yeah Bill,

    I was in line to get the kit when it was being developed. Here's my story.

    1st mods were a chip that I had done at AWE (GIAC), a intake, EIP exhaust. Nice power over stock. Still looking for more power I got some Techtonic 260/264 cams. Better power. Car ran great. Loved it.

    I started going to some GTG's in PA at Scott's (Race) in 2006. Showing up were 2 EIP turbo cars (Kent and Rob) and 1 with a stage 2 SC. The FI cars were the ones that everybody were drawn to.

    EIP and VF were the only ones that were making FI for our cars. HPA would be coming out with a kit soon but only rich people could afford it.

    After driving down to EIP and riding in their Stage 2 turbo car I decided to go with a stage 2 SC.

    I was told by VF that I would have to remove the cams cause they wouldn't work with the software that came with the stage 2 kit. Something that I did not want to do. But I was told that they were developing a stage 4 kit that needed cams. It would be out in 3 months. So I put my name on the list and had it mailed to AWE who installed it.

    I drove it very carefully for the 1st 1K as I was told to do. After that I started opening it up and about 3 weeks later while pushing it to 6000 rpm's it sounded like glass braking in the charger. Thing blew up. Bearings, I guess.

    I cut the belt that went to the blower and drove around like that for months while VF decided what to do with all the blown chargers. It was decided that they would replace about 20 of them free of charge. This was the period of a guy named (SMASH) was causing a big fuss about the whole thing and ended up getting banned from Vortex.

    At this time we were offered a great deal if we switched to the Turbo that VF was developing but I decided to stay SC'ed. Some did switch and were happy with the decision.

    This all cost VF so much money that they decided to stop production on the stage 3&4 kits and just stay with the stage 1 & 2 which are still available today.

    As I said before, I am happy with my Kit and it has been running very good for 27K.

    That's about it for now.



    I still dont understand how you use a V9 for a stage 3/4? its only 850ish CFMs... The V2 was 1000 CFM's.

    This is why I drink the HPA koolaid, it has no bad after taste



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    10-27-2012 12:12 AM #59
    Haha^^

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    10-27-2012 05:10 AM #60
    Quote Originally Posted by vwgeorge2 View Post
    I still dont understand how you use a V9 for a stage 3/4? its only 850ish CFMs... The V2 was 1000 CFM's.
    Does this clarify things, or am I mistaken?

    Quote Originally Posted by NJVWR32 View Post
    I was one of the first guys that got a stage 4 supercharger installed. It came with a Vortech V9 blower that lasted me for about 1K miles. All 20 stage 3 & 4's had the V9 replaced with the V2 which is a bigger blower and is able to handle the power of this kit.
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  26. 10-27-2012 10:36 AM #61
    Quote Originally Posted by vwgeorge2 View Post
    Here is your kit if your ready= http://www.hpamotorsport.com/typhoon.htm


    Bill







    Cheers Bill, I really like the Typhoon kit despite its price. I would like to ask if I would like to run a V3 charger, how do I piece together the parts needed. Guess verdict motorsports might be able to supply the bracket but what other parts will I need also. Appreciate any guidance. Thanks

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    10-28-2012 01:02 AM #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Goodboy1451 View Post
    Cheers Bill, I really like the Typhoon kit despite its price. I would like to ask if I would like to run a V3 charger, how do I piece together the parts needed. Guess verdict motorsports might be able to supply the bracket but what other parts will I need also. Appreciate any guidance. Thanks

    Thats not a small question... Most any Vortech s/c will fit as long as its Counter Clockwise with a straight discharge CCW. But all the other stuff is not so easy, you will need a drive system, boost delivery system, charge cooling system, fueling system, things will need relocated, etc... Its not easy to say the least. The HPA pictures do show most of the stuff for a stage 2 system, to go bigger you would need a aux drive system for the blower.



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    10-28-2012 04:43 AM #63
    JMH Should get a good laugh, but DONT BE ME. Dont try and peice together a kit. Just spend the money on the Typhoon 2 and if anything, attempt to improve upon it later on with the larger blower.

    Reason i say this is its costing me just as much peicing my setup together than the Typhoon IxH by a few grand, all said and done. Im sure if i had planned it correctly t he first time i could of saved about 2000 but thats ok.

    I also attempted to rebuild the rest of the car at the same time which has also shifted some stuff to the right.

    HPA doesnt make a bracket that supports anything but the Vortech trims of the V9 Blower. So ull be on ur own in that endevour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUDAH View Post
    JMH Should get a good laugh, but DONT BE ME. Dont try and peice together a kit.
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  30. 10-28-2012 01:34 PM #65
    Quote Originally Posted by BOUDAH View Post
    JMH Should get a good laugh, but DONT BE ME. Dont try and peice together a kit. Just spend the money on the Typhoon 2 and if anything, attempt to improve upon it later on with the larger blower.

    Reason i say this is its costing me just as much peicing my setup together than the Typhoon IxH by a few grand, all said and done. Im sure if i had planned it correctly t he first time i could of saved about 2000 but thats ok.

    I also attempted to rebuild the rest of the car at the same time which has also shifted some stuff to the right.

    HPA doesnt make a bracket that supports anything but the Vortech trims of the V9 Blower. So ull be on ur own in that endevour.

    -Ellery
    I just love the spooling response and sound of the vortices v3 charger, what a pity that this isn't available commercially now. You guys are so fortunately. I am massively envious.

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    hey hows it going!
    names Cameron, I'm from Olympia Washington. I'm 22

    i just bought my supercharged r32 a few months ago with a stage 1 vf kit . car drives amazing and pulls hard. just for safe precaution the first week of having the car i tore the hole supercharger kit completely apart and cleaned the hole thing out and made sure everything was in good condition.

    everything looked great other then the guy put a little bigger pulley on it that happened to be one rib more then the belt. kind of bothered me at first seeing as how its hard to tell if the belts straight but i plan in changing it to make 10lbs anyways so its fine for now i guess. It works

    cars current mods:
    -vf stage 1 currently running 7lbs
    - devils own meth injection
    - shaved front bumper and hatch
    - fully resprayed paint with bmw Sparkling Graphite roof, grille, wheels, engine cover and mirrors
    - Bilstein Pss9 Coilovers
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    - HPA short shifter
    - there's a hole butch of little things done to. that's the main stuff

    still has all stock exhaust system witch also bugs me but I'm not made of money though so it will do for now also. also for a tune it has a vf giac map.


    still planning on upgrading to stage 2 or maybe 3 and getting a good UM tune

    would like to make 350-400hp daily drivin if possible.

    any advice on anything i should do???? still really new to the SC club haha

    heres a few pics on the R:




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    02-01-2013 05:07 PM #68
    Welcome Rider!


    Please introduce yourself, name/where you live/etc.....


    I will add you to the list on page 1....


    As for mods let me think?





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    I've got a RS R32 with a stage 2 VF kit, 2.5' APR exhaust, extreme dimensions boser hood, euro hid reps w/angel eyes and electronic leveling, alpine ina-w900 in-dash w/sat radio, alpine mrp-m1000 amp powering a 12' alpine type-x, euro front bumper(due to a rabbit jumping in front of me and destroying the stock one)



    but, my names Justin, I'm 23, I'm active duty navy, going on 4.5 years, 2 deployments, I'm on the USS John C. Stennis over in the Persian gulf(middle east). courtesy of these deployments i just recently paid the last chunk of the R32s loan off and she now officially belongs to me.

    My first vw was a 1997 golf trek, then a 2000 golf gti vr6, and now my R32.

    I've owned it since September 2010, i cant remember who did the vf install but it still performs flawlessly.

    Under the hood, I clean it weekly or as often as my work schedule allows.


    Below is a rolling shot, its from when i had the Boser hood installed.


    after i installed the carbon fiber boser, regular hood pins


    as it sits now with aero catch hood pins.



    i know a lot of people will hate on the cf look, i don't mind it for now, there's a small chance i may get it painted to match still.

    I've got a list of things i "want" to do to the car, but $$ will be an issue as i will be going navy reserves back home so i can go to college.

    -E85 conversion
    -suspension
    -fix the awd(haldex wont communicate in vag-com)
    -rims
    -get seats re-upholstered(side bolsters/centers are pretty beat up)
    -alpine component speakers
    -fiberglass sub enclosure
    -the list will never end...

    Well, thanks for reading/viewing my post, i'm out, time to go party in the sandbox and enjoy the few days on land i get before we return to sea.

    Words can not describe how much I miss being able to just see the R32, let alone drive it.

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    02-02-2013 09:46 AM #70
    I REALLY like the way ur car looked with the BOSER! Awesome.

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