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Thread: New Jersey GP Is Not Happening According To Bernie

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    09-27-2012 10:25 AM #36
    Quote Originally Posted by enigmatic enthusiast View Post
    I'm quite sure that track was designed by Tilke as well. But it just might be his masterpiece.
    Yeah, he 'designed' the track here but from what I have read he tried to mimic some of the greatest tracks of all times. Using each corner to represent another tracks best feature. So full credit does not go to Tilke. He did seem to make a great drivers track though, and now that they finished paving the final layer the track looks nice.
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    09-27-2012 10:35 AM #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
    Yeah, he 'designed' the track here but from what I have read he tried to mimic some of the greatest tracks of all times. Using each corner to represent another tracks best feature. So full credit does not go to Tilke. He did seem to make a great drivers track though, and now that they finished paving the final layer the track looks nice.
    I've heard that as well and he still absolutely deserves all the credit.
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    09-28-2012 12:12 PM #38
    FIA still has NJ on the calendar after Friday's World Motor Sport Council in Paris.

    http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...2/9/13853.html
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    09-28-2012 04:07 PM #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
    Yeah, he 'designed' the track here but from what I have read he tried to mimic some of the greatest tracks of all times. Using each corner to represent another tracks best feature. So full credit does not go to Tilke. He did seem to make a great drivers track though, and now that they finished paving the final layer the track looks nice.
    You know how I know you're not an artist?

    Anyway, it's obvious (because they said so) that the corners are even copied from other places. But he still designed the track to incorporate those features over the terrain of the land. Hopefully this will lead to people saying "well he finally got one right"...
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    09-28-2012 04:41 PM #40
    Istanbul was a good Tilke track, but in a terrible place for a GP....
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    09-28-2012 06:15 PM #41
    Today the FIA rubber stamped the 2013 race calender. But the NJ is still yet to be confirmed.
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    09-29-2012 12:44 PM #42
    Quote Originally Posted by hushypushy View Post
    You know how I know you're not an artist?

    Anyway, it's obvious (because they said so) that the corners are even copied from other places. But he still designed the track to incorporate those features over the terrain of the land. Hopefully this will lead to people saying "well he finally got one right"...
    I know, it is a beautiful track and I am excited to live so close.
    I hope he did finally get one right.
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    09-29-2012 12:47 PM #43
    well on one hand, it was screwing with my plans to get to le mans in 2013 (it likely would have been the same weekend). on the other hand, f'u bernie! my buddy lives within SIGHT of the proposed track in hoboken, so you ruined my 2013 east coast GP/road trip plans!
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    09-29-2012 01:10 PM #44
    Did Bernie finally figure out the New Jersey race was in New Jersey?
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    09-29-2012 01:17 PM #45
    Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
    Did Bernie finally figure out the New Jersey race was in New Jersey?
    perhaps the thought of hair gel and jersey shore finally killed it for him.
    Regarding DD'ing a tuned Evo:
    Quote Originally Posted by SchrickVR6 View Post
    It's composed at all speeds and at all times...it just feels like you're holding the leash on a 150lb pit bull and praying you don't see a squirrel.
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    10-19-2012 03:10 AM #46
    It's official, NJ GP postponed until 2014: http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...ace-postponed/
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    10-19-2012 11:48 AM #47
    Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
    It's official, NJ GP postponed until 2014

    Well at least we have Austin.
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    10-19-2012 12:25 PM #48
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    10-19-2012 02:00 PM #49
    Another article, more local, is confirming the postponement.

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._river_default

    F1 can make a crap load of $$ in this market. They should do it.
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    10-19-2012 03:07 PM #50
    i would much rather go to this race then austin. this could be america's monte carlo/singapore. we need more "street" tracks in f1
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    10-19-2012 03:28 PM #51
    I can not say that I am surprised. I really don't think the US is ready to support two races. I wonder if they will add a 20th race back to the calendar.
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    10-19-2012 03:49 PM #52
    Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
    i would much rather go to this race then austin. this could be america's monte carlo/singapore. we need more "street" tracks in f1
    No we don't...these cars needs room to stretch their leg.....street circuits are terrible for a F1 car....

    Without being under the light Singapore would be much less interesting. And only reason Monaco is in F1 is because its Monaco. Valencia is a bore every year...
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    10-19-2012 04:23 PM #53
    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    No we don't...these cars needs room to stretch their leg.....street circuits are terrible for a F1 car....

    Without being under the light Singapore would be much less interesting. And only reason Monaco is in F1 is because its Monaco. Valencia is a bore every year...
    While i tend to agree Valencia was pretty good this year.
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    10-19-2012 04:25 PM #54
    F U BERNIE! that was supposed to by my 25th bday present. it was the same weekend too!
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    10-19-2012 04:29 PM #55
    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    No we don't...these cars needs room to stretch their leg.....street circuits are terrible for a F1 car....

    Without being under the light Singapore would be much less interesting. And only reason Monaco is in F1 is because its Monaco. Valencia is a bore every year...
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    10-19-2012 04:38 PM #56
    ^

    Its boring watching cars that can take 4-5G lateral load cornering at 2-3 gear slow corner that does not allow passing....
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    10-19-2012 09:12 PM #57
    I would have been much more surprised if it were to be going on next year.
    I'm still doubt we'll have it in 2014. I would love it, as I live in NYC, but still think it's unrealistic.
    Like the article said, the people involved on the NJ side were oblivious to all it entailed.

    I also think the mayors in NJ and the Governor are expecting the race to bring in much more money than it will. It wll bring in some money to the towns, but I would think the vast majority of spending by fans would be in NYC. If you are traveling to see this race, why the heck would you hang out in NJ when NYC is 15 minutes away?!! NJ should figure out some revenue sharing deal w NY if that's possible......if the race does go forward.

    The official Red Bull video of NY/NJ was sick though!!
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    10-28-2012 05:34 AM #58
    Reports are now saying that Bernie is ready to sign off on the French GP to take its spot from NJ this summer. I'm guessing the track will be Paul Ricard, a track he personally owns and not Magny Cours.

    Kinda makes sense since NJ was supposed to be after Montreal then Silverstone. So after Canada, the teams head back to Europe instead of stopping at NJ then Europe.

    So, then what about 2014? Is the French GP just a one year deal then NJ regains the spot after Montreal?
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