Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo Concept.. how the Panamera SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

[Lifelong Obsession]

I like it overall.

Taillights remind me of a Dodge Charger, which to me is a good thing.

[Arju]

[1Point8TDan]

Damm thats hot!

[Buickboy92]

I've been in the current Panamera and was blown away, it's such an excellent vehicle, and this is even cooler!

[Vettes, Volvos and VWs]

I've been in the current Panamera and was blown away, it's such an excellent vehicle, and this is even cooler!

SO have I, I was very impressed. It sounded incredible. Still think it looks awkward from rear angles
This right hur!

[330iZHP]

I like this and like others have said - I really dislike the first/current car

[Wheelwright]

Current Panamera looks like they took 911 and made a stretched limo out of it. This concept looks infinitely better and I hope it will make it into production virtually unchanged.

[Sherpa23F]

It's like a sporty cayenne wagon with some CGT in there. I don't know what took them so long. That would be a car I wouldn't mind driving, unlike the current car which looks devoid of any real charisma. I drove the GTS last week and while it drives nicely, it looks like dog poo.

[Iroczgirl]

I can live with that. But could never afford it.

[crisvr6]

looks like an alfa brera

[Bakounine]

Somehow, this rear end reminds me of this:

[Mike!]

Okay, I do like the in-the-steel pics. Approved.

Not that long ago I planned on owning a (current) Panamera someday once they've depreciated. It's too bad that if anything I'm now more likely to own a (current) Cayenne, and even that's not high odds.

[brickfrenzy]

I wish the rear glass didn't slope quite so much. Bump it out a little farther and the cargo area becomes far more useful.

[Swallow Doretti]

I wonder if they'll bother with the hatchback again. This wagon probably doesn't offer particularly much practical benefit over the current hatch, so it seems silly to make both. But, then again, when has Porsche turned down a chance for silliness?

[Krazee]

I think this is awesome. I thought the concept of the Panamera was awesome too, though the execution was a tad bulbous. And while I tend to agree with even my girlfriend - "If you are going to buy a Porsche, buy a Porsche..." - the advent of the Cayenne and Panamera, as much as we may dislike it in concept, have allowed Porsche to grow substantially and create the halo cars we truly drool over (the 918 for example, any of the modern RS variants).

In the end, a consumer previously purchasing a Range Rover Sport, X5, or ML, is now buying a Porsche Cayenne and may ultimately buy a 911 as a result. Car Services previously buying 7-series, S-Classes, or Jags are now opting for a Panamera (though the quite cramped rear limits this in my mind).

Out of all the brands attempting to go up market, or down market, or both, Porsche is succeeding where few have. The Cayman is applauded as possibly being better than the 911. The Cayenne is the best driver's SUV. Beyond them, only BMW has successfully gone down. Merc couldn't make heads or tails of either direction (C-hatchback and Maybach, I'm looking at you).

[Imola Yellow GTi]

still hate the car, the idea behind it, and anyone i see driving one. same goes for the cayenne and cockster.

Wow. Saying it like the BOSS. You got it all figured! The car and the people. A+

You must be one of those ppl who walks into the bar and within secs has a judgement on every person in there and starts laying down the put downs to elevate your own status. WTG!

[Mike!]

I think this is awesome. I thought the concept of the Panamera was awesome too, though the execution was a tad bulbous. And while I tend to agree with even my girlfriend - "If you are going to buy a Porsche, buy a Porsche..." - the advent of the Cayenne and Panamera, as much as we may dislike it in concept, have allowed Porsche to grow substantially and create the halo cars we truly drool over (the 918 for example, any of the modern RS variants).

In the end, a consumer previously purchasing a Range Rover Sport, X5, or ML, is now buying a Porsche Cayenne and may ultimately buy a 911 as a result. Car Services previously buying 7-series, S-Classes, or Jags are now opting for a Panamera (though the quite cramped rear limits this in my mind).

Out of all the brands attempting to go up market, or down market, or both, Porsche is succeeding where few have. The Cayman is applauded as possibly being better than the 911. The Cayenne is the best driver's SUV. Beyond them, only BMW has successfully gone down. Merc couldn't make heads or tails of either direction (C-hatchback and Maybach, I'm looking at you).

Well put, though I wouldn't dismiss Mercedes' success in doing the same. The C-coupe and similar 3-series compact weren't overwhelming successes on any continent, and Maybach did not succeed next to Bentley or RR even in their models that did compete. R-class was a failed experiment as well, though quite a nice vehicle. Strip those aside though, and M-B has had great success with the CLS, the GL, and the GLK in its contemporary model proliferation. BMW's had its duds too, so I think the two companies have managed to keep toe-to-toe, although nothing compared to Porsche's expansion.

[Sherpa23F]

I think this is awesome. I thought the concept of the Panamera was awesome too, though the execution was a tad bulbous. And while I tend to agree with even my girlfriend - "If you are going to buy a Porsche, buy a Porsche..." - the advent of the Cayenne and Panamera, as much as we may dislike it in concept, have allowed Porsche to grow substantially and create the halo cars we truly drool over (the 918 for example, any of the modern RS variants).

In the end, a consumer previously purchasing a Range Rover Sport, X5, or ML, is now buying a Porsche Cayenne and may ultimately buy a 911 as a result. Car Services previously buying 7-series, S-Classes, or Jags are now opting for a Panamera (though the quite cramped rear limits this in my mind).

Out of all the brands attempting to go up market, or down market, or both, Porsche is succeeding where few have. The Cayman is applauded as possibly being better than the 911. The Cayenne is the best driver's SUV. Beyond them, only BMW has successfully gone down. Merc couldn't make heads or tails of either direction (C-hatchback and Maybach, I'm looking at you).

Well put but here's the one thing that really puzzles me: the sheer number of people driving super expensive daily drivers. I was invited to the Porsche world driving thing or whatever because they want me to buy a Porsche for my next DD. Well just about every 4 seater they have is at least $85+k with minimal options. A panamera is over $100k as with the 911. That is CRAZY to me. Yet there are guys out there lining up. And they're not the only company. MB has just about everything at $65k or more. A CLS is $85k with hardly any options. Same with BMW.

Now, I own one pretty expensive car but I cannot bring myself to spend that kind of money on a car that I know is going to depreciate so severely. I can't get over how much money down the drain that is, not mention it's going to take its bumps and bruises in daily use, etc. Apparently, though, I'm in the minority because I see tons of people out in these things.

Consequently, Porsche and the others have to really reinvent the wheel in order to get guys like me off the sidelines and hopefully other buyers to jump ship and pay up. The only way I pay that money is because I love the car so much that I have to have it and financial responsibility be damned. Look at what MB just did to their whole line up? Look at I just can't imagine loving a mass market car that much that I can't wait a few years for it to depreciate.

Anyways, just my thoughts, sorry for the rant.

[eiriksmil]

At the end of the day, why would you really need any more than a 991 as a daily? Unless you have kids apparently.

[epbrown]

Perfect two car garage: 918 and this Panamera

I'd still prefer a Cayenne and Cayman, myself.

[Jedidub]

Porsche should've never started making 4 doors.

[NoDubJustYet]

Porsche should've never started making 4 doors.

Why? Did making cars with 4-doors prevent them from making 911s or something?

[71DubBugBug]

Why? Did making cars with 4-doors prevent them from making 911s or something?

isnt it the opposite?
the sales of the 4 doors allows them to keep doing the 911?

[NoDubJustYet]

isnt it the opposite?
the sales of the 4 doors allows them to keep doing the 911?

That's my point.

The Cayenne, Boxster/Cayman, and Panamera may have affected some wierd perception people have of Porsche - but that's it. They still build awesome 911s from the base Carrera to the GT3 and GT2. The non-911s have kept the 911s going, people don't seem to understand that.

[omoderncultureo]

[crannky]

Nav system?

Asteroids!

[SSLByron]

Yeah, as a former Mazda6 5-Door owner, I Dig It™. Love me some big hatchbacks.

Calling this a "wagon" is taking some liberties.

[speedworks1]

Poops on the current Panamera.

[modmo]

Pretty neat video on the design process.

[Hawk]

I was invited to the Porsche world driving thing or whatever because they want me to buy a Porsche for my next DD. Well just about every 4 seater they have is at least $85+k with minimal options. A panamera is over $100k as with the 911. That is CRAZY to me. Yet there are guys out there lining up.

How could you NOT like the Porsche World Roadshow.

I did it and it was one of the best two days of my life. All expenses paid. they flew me from Toronto to the track. Put me up in a 5 star hotel with an excellent meal and then I spent a whole day driving Porsches around the track, off road and on a skid pad.

Launched a 997TTS hard 5 times, drove a Cayenne though an off road obstacle course, drove a Spyder around a skid pad and then a Cayman, Panamera Turbo S, 997 S and 997 GTS around a track all day long.

FOR FREE!!!!

Anyway, the 991 starts at $82,000 and the Panamera starts at $75,000 not $100,000 as you say.

If you want to add on $18,000 - $25,000 worth of options you can do so and call it a $100,000+ car but gimme a break, you can have it nicely done up with just $5K of options.

Not to mention, the U.S. is the CHEAPEST market to get a Porsche in the whole world.

Yes cars are getting more expensive. A VW CC is $30K a GTI R is $33K. Porsche is still an incredible value.

[Chileno]

Ferrari 456 shooting brake was ahead of its time..

Put it this way, new cars are harder to make cool than ever. Big wings? Seen it. Aggressive bumpers and skirts? All cars have them now. Turbos and electric-everything once saved for sport models and top end cars? Standard option. New niches is the way to make something 'new', a car you're not really sure if it's a wagon or a hatch, or a city car or an offroader.

I dig this thing.

You have just rationalized all the irrational bodystyles I have ever seen. Thanks. I can live in peace now.

[Iroczgirl]

It looks as if they took a 911 and made it have babies with a polestar c30.
I approve

It does look cool.

[danny_16v]

wow now that is awesome... way better than the current Pan

[crisvr6]

sport turismo test drive















http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...t-6235968.html

[Ross1013]

Wow....