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    • mk1

      141 21.30%
    • mk2

      202 30.51%
    • mk3

      64 9.67%
    • mk4

      72 10.88%
    • mk5

      89 13.44%
    • mk6

      72 10.88%
    • mk7

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    Thread: Whats your fav generation GTI and, why?

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      09-26-2012 11:36 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      To be honest, the shape of the bodies of the MkIII and MkIV are pretty much the same.



      I love when dubbers use this argument but then turn around and bash Hondas for being nothing but noisy. GTIs aren't all that fast, either, and they do make a lot of noise. Sorry to burst your bubble.



      Harlequin is not a color, nor was it the best. In fact, it was probably one of the dumbest things any automaker has done as a color option.



      Base, 1.8T, GTI, and what else? VR6? Interior options? LOLWUT.

      It's not a Scion, you can't "option it out" to your hearts content.



      VWs don't have style, sorry.

      your all wrong on this. i was a previous honda owner. owned a eg bubble, sedan and vw are just so much better built then any of those. my mk3 just feels soo much stiffer and well balance. just doesnt flex like hondas do. doesnt feel like it going to fall apart. omg and when my Vr roars i wet my pants. after i switch a honda just sounds like a stupid chihuahua dog that just barks and barks and doesnt shut up. i can even count how many hondas ive embarrased (and just minor mods). i love when i go to meets and the honda guys just stare me down. and when i had my honda it would just be like. "oh its just another honda". oh and once Vw started the stanced look. stretched tires wide rims. slammed. here comes honda owners doing the same.

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      09-26-2012 11:44 PM #107
      Get off your high horse bozo. Your Honda's / Acura's exude less style, class, and refinement than ANYTHING comparable, of the same generation offered by VW in the last 35 yrs; model for model.

      Heck; your car is most coveted by an inner city demographic that is less than desirable to say the least.
      Wow. More garbage, opinion taken as fact, posting. And "inner city demographic"? Are you really going to be so crass as to judge a car by a common owner base? If i did the same, i wouldn't be very pro-vw to say the least! But hey, this was a thread about OPINIONS over one's favorite VW GTI before the attempts at generating a honda vs vw idiotfest.
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      09-26-2012 11:51 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by tjeff89 View Post
      your all wrong on this. i was a previous honda owner. owned a eg bubble, sedan and vw are just so much better built then any of those.
      CELs every 5 miles, coil packs taking a ****, and electrical gremlins = better built? What planet are you from?

      my mk3 just feels soo much stiffer and well balance. just doesnt flex like hondas do. doesnt feel like it going to fall apart.
      I don't think people praise VWs for their handling when Honda is in the same discussion, especially the MkIIIs, which were the biggest understeering pigs out of all the Golf generations.

      omg and when my Vr roars i wet my pants. after i switch a honda just sounds like a stupid chihuahua dog that just barks and barks and doesnt shut up.
      OMG VR! If you think about it are inefficient engines. I mean, 170 and 170 out of a 2.8L 6 cyl? I mean come on, there are 2.4L 4 cyls that make more power and are more fuel efficient. Exhaust note is subjective and adds NOTHING to the discussion, and to base your claim that the VR is a better engine just because it sounds better to you is more moronic than ZACHER3 claiming that the MkIII is the best Golf.

      i can even count how many hondas ive embarrased (and just minor mods). i love when i go to meets and the honda guys just stare me down. and when i had my honda it would just be like. "oh its just another honda".
      confirmed, you are a toolbag. Wow, you can beat a single cam making 115hp with your 170hp. Well no ****, Sherlock. Don't even need a high school GED to figure that one out.

      oh and once Vw started the stanced look. stretched tires wide rims. slammed. here comes honda owners doing the same.
      This is my favorite line of this post. VWs did not start the "stance" look, sorry. They just all did it because they realized that no matter how much money they dumped into their engines and performance suspensions, the cheaper Japanese cars were still owning their asses on the race track AND drag strip.

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      09-26-2012 11:53 PM #109
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      09-27-2012 12:04 AM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      CELs every 5 miles, coil packs taking a ****, and electrical gremlins = better built? What planet are you from?



      I don't think people praise VWs for their handling when Honda is in the same discussion, especially the MkIIIs, which were the biggest understeering pigs out of all the Golf generations.



      OMG VR! If you think about it are inefficient engines. I mean, 170 and 170 out of a 2.8L 6 cyl? I mean come on, there are 2.4L 4 cyls that make more power and are more fuel efficient. Exhaust note is subjective and adds NOTHING to the discussion, and to base your claim that the VR is a better engine just because it sounds better to you is more moronic than ZACHER3 claiming that the MkIII is the best Golf.



      confirmed, you are a toolbag. Wow, you can beat a single cam making 115hp with your 170hp. Well no ****, Sherlock. Don't even need a high school GED to figure that one out.



      This is my favorite line of this post. VWs did not start the "stance" look, sorry. They just all did it because they realized that no matter how much money they dumped into their engines and performance suspensions, the cheaper Japanese cars were still owning their asses on the race track AND drag strip.
      Hondas have been in the racing scene longer then VWs. Most of these vw owners dont care on how fast there cars are. There more into showing class. I live in NY and im maybe 1 of the probally tow VW people that actually drive to a street race. Y because a honda is a cheaper car to build and fix. Hondas have so many more motor build options then a vw does. I know because i built my 10.8 sec eg b serious all motor myself. And i never said vw started the "stance scene". I spend less money building building my honda then i am actually fixing my VW. Basically meaning a vw aint for a broke *****. And the harlo was never a color option. And by built better i meant body wise. I can actually close my doors on my car and not feel like there gonna fall off. Or carry around a box of zip ties to tie **** together. ( like most hondas do). Im sorry i like hondas but they just feels soo cheap.


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      09-27-2012 12:04 AM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      *Rampant Fanboyism*
      Dude, tone it down. You're getting worse than Zacher.
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      09-27-2012 12:09 AM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by tjeff89 View Post
      And i never said vw started the "stance scene".
      Quote Originally Posted by tjeff89 View Post
      oh and once Vw started the stanced look. stretched tires wide rims. slammed.
      Look and scene are essentially interchangeable in this case because a look starts a scene, and a scene is part of the look.

      So, yes, you did.

      Next?

      Quote Originally Posted by 16v_43v3r View Post
      Dude, tone it down. You're getting worse than Zacher.
      Logic and reasoning and actual fact vs. the rantings of delusional VW blowhards
      Science vs. Church

      Come on, man.

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      09-27-2012 12:10 AM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      Logic and reasoning and actual fact vs. the rantings of delusional VW blowhards
      Science vs. Church

      Come on, man.
      I'm not really saying you're wrong. And I'm not really a VW fan, but bashing VW makes you no better than them.
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      09-27-2012 12:12 AM #114
      Hondas have been in the racing scene longer then VWs

      VWs once came without coolant ya know, and were aiming at the v8 domestics at the dragstrip before many TCLers were even born. If you two are going to continue with the rampant fanboyism, y'all could at least try to appear to know what you're talking about as you're doing a terrible job at the moment.
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      09-27-2012 12:20 AM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by bustedbucket View Post

      VWs once came without coolant ya know, and were aiming at the v8 domestics at the dragstrip before many TCLers were even born. If you two are going to continue with the rampant fanboyism, y'all could at least try to appear to know what you're talking about as you're doing a terrible job at the moment.
      Who said anything about who started racing first?

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      09-27-2012 12:31 AM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      OMG VR! If you think about it are inefficient engines. I mean, 170 and 170 out of a 2.8L 6 cyl? I mean come on, there are 2.4L 4 cyls that make more power and are more fuel efficient.
      They were also designed about 15 years before the K24. I'm no fanboi, I appreciate all makes and models but the VR6 inefficient? Yes...they were single cam motors despite the marketing. They weren't designed to be efficient (per se), they were designed to fit in the spot that a 4 cylinder motor was only capable of fitting prior and they did that with brilliance. Sure, sacrifices were made at the expense of head flow but that doesn't mean its still not a great motor. It has won awards and is the basis to the engine that powers the Veyron and countless other configurations.

      That beings said, mKII GTIs...with VR6 engines ftw.

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      09-27-2012 12:34 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by darren p. View Post
      They were also designed about 15 years before the K24. I'm no fanboi, I appreciate all makes and models but the VR6 inefficient? Yes...they were single cam motors despite the marketing. They weren't designed to be efficient (per se), they were designed to fit in the spot that a 4 cylinder motor was only capable of fitting prior and they did that with brilliance. Sure, sacrifices were made at the expense of head flow but that doesn't mean its still not a great motor. It has won awards and is the basis to the engine that powers the Veyron and countless other configurations.

      That beings said, mKII GTIs...with VR6 engines ftw.
      i like this reply. except for that last comment
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      09-27-2012 12:35 AM #118
      mkv for me. Thats when vw really stepped up their game.

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      Mk6 is good also but the same car almost in a different body.

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      09-27-2012 12:36 AM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by bustedbucket View Post

      VWs once came without coolant ya know, and were aiming at the v8 domestics at the dragstrip before many TCLers were even born. If you two are going to continue with the rampant fanboyism, y'all could at least try to appear to know what you're talking about as you're doing a terrible job at the moment.

      no one ever stated who started racing first. all i said was that hondas have alot of more options for builds. motor and parts.as they d series motors, b series motors, k series motors j series motor and the f series. and then theres alot more companys that actually support hondas and there builds. so many different options. and things to do. honda owners just been putting more support in the racing scene.
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      09-27-2012 12:43 AM #120
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      I just asked my roommate (who has no interest in cars, so a perfect blind candidate) what he thought of the Harlequin, and he said it looked dumb.
      Um maybe BECAUSE YOUR ROOMMATE DOESN'T LIKE CARS lol

      You can show him any car and he prob couldn't care less. Assuming you even have a roommate. As for honda VS vw style. Come on all the new Hondas are Ugly as f*ck, same with Acuras. Not going to say they weren't good looking Honda's and Acuras but the new stuff blahh.
      New Honda Accord Crossover and it cost over 40k gtfo.
      VW wins in style until Honda/acura fires all their designers and earns their respect back.
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      09-27-2012 12:50 AM #121
      Its a tough choice.

      We all know VW's last model year was 1992.

      The A2 is wonderful with that 16v motor, but the A1 is the original and more of a drivers car.

      So I pick the best of both worlds.

      They didn't call it a GTI though...shame on VW.

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      09-27-2012 01:05 AM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by tjeff89 View Post
      Hondas have been in the racing scene longer then VWs. Most of these vw owners dont care on how fast there cars are. There more into showing class. I live in NY and im maybe 1 of the probally tow VW people that actually drive to a street race. Y because a honda is a cheaper car to build and fix. Hondas have so many more motor build options then a vw does. I know because i built my 10.8 sec eg b serious all motor myself. And i never said vw started the "stance scene". I spend less money building building my honda then i am actually fixing my VW. Basically meaning a vw aint for a broke *****. And the harlo was never a color option. And by built better i meant body wise. I can actually close my doors on my car and not feel like there gonna fall off. Or carry around a box of zip ties to tie **** together. ( like most hondas do). Im sorry i like hondas but they just feels soo cheap.


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      You may want to check the spelling in your sig.... Just sayin'
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      09-27-2012 01:18 AM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by MKVmyfast View Post
      Um maybe BECAUSE YOUR ROOMMATE DOESN'T LIKE CARS lol

      You can show him any car and he prob couldn't care less. Assuming you even have a roommate.
      Or I could ask my good friend who is a VW and overall German car nut about the Harlequin and he'll say the same thing (I've already had such a discussion with him.)

      Much butthurt over calling a stupid, tacky looking VW exactly what it is

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      09-27-2012 01:24 AM #126
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      Or I could ask my good friend who is a VW and overall German car nut about the Harlequin and he'll say the same thing (I've already had such a discussion with him.)

      Much butthurt over calling a stupid, tacky looking VW exactly what it is
      I personally like the Harlequin, but I can also fully understand why others do not. What I can't understand is why people can't understand that your opinion- and apparently that of your friends- is yours and therefore is yours to determine. Just like you'd be hard-pressed to make them feel it is tacky, they would have equal difficulty trying to make you like the car.

      I understand liking something and being passionate, but that is greatly different from being a fanboy. I like the VR6, and I like how it sounds, and I understand why it was designed in the manner it was, but to defend it the way many people here do... Wow... It's not efficient and it's an aged design. Not bad things in all cases, but understand why others dislike it too.

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      09-27-2012 01:24 AM #127
      Quote Originally Posted by darren p. View Post
      They were also designed about 15 years before the K24. I'm no fanboi, I appreciate all makes and models but the VR6 inefficient? Yes...they were single cam motors despite the marketing. They weren't designed to be efficient (per se), they were designed to fit in the spot that a 4 cylinder motor was only capable of fitting prior and they did that with brilliance. Sure, sacrifices were made at the expense of head flow but that doesn't mean its still not a great motor. It has won awards and is the basis to the engine that powers the Veyron and countless other configurations.

      That beings said, mKII GTIs...with VR6 engines ftw.
      Okay fine, the K24 came out in 04.

      What about the H22A from the mid 90s (same time period) making 20 more HP but only ~10 less tq out of a 2.2L?

      I'm not saying the VR is bad, but it's not the god engine as many on here make it out to be. I'd sooner consider an offering from Honda or Ferrari or Porsche (pre-buyout) or BMW or Nissan or Toyota or Chevorlet before VW.
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      09-27-2012 01:25 AM #128
      Never really cared for the GTI. I guess MK4 for the sweet sounding VR6?
      Looks wise I like the MK5 the best.

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      Hi.

      This thread is about which GTI you like the most.

      So stay on topic.

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      Hi.

      This thread is about which GTI you like the most.

      So stay on topic.

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      09-27-2012 01:58 AM #131
      OP I appreciate your enthusiasm for your MK3, but I owned a '95 Golf Sport, and a '97 Windsor Blue GTI VR6... Neither of which were as good as my Tropic Orange 2000 GTI GLX. And none of them were as good as my buddy's MkVI, and none of them hold a candle to a properly sorted Mk2 2.0 GTI 16v with big bumpers.

      But that's just my opinion.

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      09-27-2012 02:32 AM #132
      It would be hard choice between A1 and A2.
      A1 is light,raw and fun.Add ABA to it, and its hell of a car.

      A2 is perfection of mk1 idea. 16V,big bumpers,borbet Type A



      A4 is in 3rd place. A side all dubbers,neva loose,bs problems its a really nice car. Interior is best im class adn its time, tune friendly engine and slick styling.
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      A3 is probably worse of the bunch. It was a weird time for VW.
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      09-27-2012 02:50 AM #133
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      Okay fine, the K24 came out in 04.

      What about the H22A from the mid 90s (same time period) making 20 more HP but only ~10 less tq out of a 2.2L?

      I'm not saying the VR is bad, but it's not the god engine as many on here make it out to be. I'd sooner consider an offering from Honda or Ferrari or Porsche (pre-buyout) or BMW or Nissan or Toyota or Chevorlet before VW.
      What is a VW thread w out C4 A6. I dont get it,why do you try so hard??
      Its a "fav GTI" not Honda thread. We know you love VW, but try hard to mask it.

      VW had their sh!t together in the 80s and produced some cool cars. They kinda lost their way thru mid 90s. Came back,styling wise w mk4s but had a lot off issues.
      Honda had a great decade in 90s. Started messing up mid 2000s and is still trying to find their way back. Plus they do look cheap as hell. Awsome engines though
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      09-27-2012 06:00 AM #134
      MkVII.

      More power, ~50ft-lbs more torque, front LSD, and ~200lbs lighter than the MkVI. What's not to like? Well, perhaps the red stripe, but that is easily fixed.








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      What's not to like?

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      09-27-2012 08:04 AM #137
      From my favorite to least favorite, excluding the Mk7 because it's just too new to pass judgment:

      Mk2
      Mk1
      Mk5
      Mk6
      Mk3
      A kick in the nuts
      Mk4
      Splinter - Team Post-Killing Ninja
      I don't practice llanteria

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      09-27-2012 08:16 AM #138
      The collective IQ of TCL seems to have dropped with this thread. Where did these people come from, the "Mk __" forums?

    34. 09-27-2012 08:56 AM #139
      I do not like one particular generation over another, all I can say is I prefer any that were build before 1995.
      So A1, A2 and early A3s. After OBDII was equipped they became a hassle.

    35. 09-27-2012 08:59 AM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      Okay fine, the K24 came out in 04.

      What about the H22A from the mid 90s (same time period) making 20 more HP but only ~10 less tq out of a 2.2L?

      I'm not saying the VR is bad, but it's not the god engine as many on here make it out to be. I'd sooner consider an offering from Honda or Ferrari or Porsche (pre-buyout) or BMW or Nissan or Toyota or Chevorlet before VW.
      Somehow they run about the same 1/4 mile stock and modded. I'm seeing mostly 14s for bolt on Preludes and VRs alike.
      I'm really just here for the pancakes.
      I'm Sorry Hachi... I love you.

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