"Your pants too tight,your wheels too bright"
Geld und Macht bringt korruption!!!
Von allen je gebauten volkswagens,steht man Kopf über den rest,den mk3 golf VR6
"stop telling lies about me, and ill stop telling the truth about you"...MD.
This thread took the predictable road to pure ****
pardon my 'merican
6>4>5>2>1>3 but I them all.
2011 VW Golf 2.5 5MT "Lola"
I'm really just here for the pancakes.
I'm Sorry Hachi... I love you.
I prefer the first two generation sciroccos and mk1 jetta to the mk1/mk2 golf
But if I had to choose I would pick either mk1 or mk2.
Mk3/mk4 I never had a problem with the design, I just never realized how problem ridden they were plus mk4 owners are But I do wonder how a mk3 with a 16v compares to a vr6, it probably feels more gti than a vr6 gti does.
Mk6 would be after mk1/mk2 on my list. the mk6 addresses the design issues I had with the mk5, the ugly front end, the painted rear bumper. Though a votex kit on a mk5 improves things a lot, it should have been factory. I just hate the textured rear on the mk5 it looks awful
The 01-08 V70-S60 is also wired with the SAME Bosch me7 ecu, and electronics, and consequently has a similar fickle cel, etc. Noone complains about it.
The mk4 is touted as a POS, while the Volvo's are touted as uber reliable. Why is this? Simple. The Volvo owners are more religious with their maintenance, and take better care of their cars.
I've owned a MkIV, MkIII and I am about to get a MkVI.
I rank them this way
"Good dude, bad night, right place, wrong time; in the blink of an eye, his whole life changed."
love them all. here is the newest in our drive way. one day old
currently own 3 GTI's, 1979, 1984, 2012. all are white, 2 door sunroof manuals. weird.
MKII I love the looks the 2.0 16v is a marvelous engine, and the options were great on these cars.
The mk3 is to GTI's what the mustang II is to the mustang lineage. What a horribly sh!tty car.
It was actually bizarre when I first started tinkering with the Volvo. Its essentially like working on a haldex 1.8t; only with an additional cylinder.
Maf failures? Check..
Coil pack failures due to improper plug gap? Check..
SAI pump that leaks, and throws a cel? Check..
Computer that totally freaks out at even the tiniest of vacuum/boost leaks? Check..
Computer that totally freaks out at even the tiniest pre primary o2 sensor exhaust leaks? Check..
Computer that prematurely goes into open loop, and dumps fuel in "safe mode" when any of the above happens, and consequently fouls o2 sensors? Check..
Soft touch interior coatings that Peel if you look at them wrong? Check..
The 01-08 Turbo Volvo's have all the same failure points as mk4 vw's; yet they are darlings of TCL.
It has nothing to do with the cars themselves, and everything to do with the "perception" of said cars, due to the demographic associated with them.
This stereotype ONLY exists because of the recent crop of "stance kids" in the VW scene.
Unfortunately the rest of us REAL VW enthusiasts, who've been around long before the current fad; get dragged into the same category as these kids.
Schit pîsses me off at times.