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    View Poll Results: Whats your favorite GTI

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    • mk1

      141 21.30%
    • mk2

      202 30.51%
    • mk3

      64 9.67%
    • mk4

      72 10.88%
    • mk5

      89 13.44%
    • mk6

      72 10.88%
    • mk7

      22 3.32%
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    Thread: Whats your fav generation GTI and, why?

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      09-29-2012 09:23 PM #351
      This thread is all over the place!

      Mk1- OG. It defined the GTI and no one can argue it.

      My favourite GTI is the Mk2 (16V). Of course you may say that I'm biased because I own one, but what's not to love?! Wider flares, stock recaro seats, infamous red striping, 2-piece bbs wheels, 16v badging everywhere, 4-light grille with fog lights, and a whole lot of comfortable bells and whistles (minus the cupholders...) It's light, fun, easy to work on, and it's got that driver to car connection that gens like the the mk4 don't have. Also, the 16v was a great contender in its days versus the honda crx and mazda I believe.

      The mk3 can also be a great gti if tastefully modified and maintained. I never got one simply because of the rust, wiring issues, and lack of good engine choice. But I have seen many great looking mk3's. Although they do look "fatter", the body lines make it to be a more modern mk2 which as I've stated, can look great, especially with the euro bumpers and flares.

      In summary, a Mk3 needs more work to look good, or you can buy a mk2 and be happy .

      Mk4- Similar to the mk3, but fatter, with less driver connection. Engine choice and is way better though, especially the 03+ 1.8T with the 6 Speed Transmission. 20th AE was my favourite, especially since they brought back the recaros (not as good looking as the mk2 recaros though ).


      Mk5- Beautiful. Took a little while to get used to, but love it. The FSI sounds like a nightmare, but they made things right with the TSI. What's in a Mk5 you ask? 16V, with a turbo on it . Mk5 to me represents VW getting back on track with the GTI. The interior got revamped, and reminds me of the comfort/sportyness that the mk2 recaros have. Options are nice too, leather or jacky cloth, well made steering wheel and cluster, I think they got it right with the Mk5 and continued to progress after that.

      Mk6- Took a little while to get used to like the Mk5, but love it even more! All the bugs have been ironed out and the facelift is looks more aggressive.

      * Also noticed that there are alot of Mk6's on the roads these days *

      Mk7- Can't wait to get a better job so that I can buy one! I see nothing wrong with it, well done VW! They finally realized that they needed to squeeze more power out of it in order to continue to compete.

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      09-30-2012 11:45 AM #352
      Mk6 all the way -- just got back from giving mine a bath this morning.

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      09-30-2012 03:19 PM #353
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      09-30-2012 05:34 PM #354
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      09-30-2012 08:09 PM #355
      I voted for mk1, it is the only one I have driven.


      Quote Originally Posted by kamzcab86 View Post
      This thread is sorely lacking in the Mk1 department...












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      09-30-2012 08:49 PM #356
      Quote Originally Posted by phil123 View Post
      You can slap a turbo on a MK3 VR for much cheaper than 50k and go beat up on P Cars.
      I'd take a GM P platform car over a VW any day, but that's just me.

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      09-30-2012 09:03 PM #357
      Alright, I'm going to go out on a limb here with my unpopular preferences:

      As a driver's car, I think the Mk.I and Mk.II are the best. Stock, hands down, best driver's car GTI. Modified the playing field starts to level out though. Once you start modifying I think the Mk.III really comes into its own. The platform is stiffer than the Mk.I and II, the suspension setup is very similar to the Mk.II(which is a very good thing), and it weighs significantly less than the subsequent generations. The interior in the Mk.III is better than the earlier generations, and has really aged well. Stock, yeah, they were rubbish. With a little attention I think they can be made much more engaging and livable than a Mk.II can be. Let's not forget that the Mk.III is incredibly competitive in SCCA Improved Touring B. Tristan Herbert ran one for Brimtek before Brimtek got their Mk.V GTI and Mk.VI Jetta.

      So basically, stock: Mk.I and Mk.II, by a LOT.
      Modified: Give the Mk.III a look. There are so few performance-oriented Mk.IIIs around that I think people forget how good they CAN be.

      One day I will build an ABA/16v Mk.III with a limited slip diff, properly set up coils, some burly sways and beefy tires and it will be awesome.
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    8. 09-30-2012 11:36 PM #358
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Alright, I'm going to go out on a limb here with my unpopular preferences:

      As a driver's car, I think the Mk.I and Mk.II are the best. Stock, hands down, best driver's car GTI. Modified the playing field starts to level out though. Once you start modifying I think the Mk.III really comes into its own. The platform is stiffer than the Mk.I and II, the suspension setup is very similar to the Mk.II(which is a very good thing), and it weighs significantly less than the subsequent generations. The interior in the Mk.III is better than the earlier generations, and has really aged well. Stock, yeah, they were rubbish. With a little attention I think they can be made much more engaging and livable than a Mk.II can be. Let's not forget that the Mk.III is incredibly competitive in SCCA Improved Touring B. Tristan Herbert ran one for Brimtek before Brimtek got their Mk.V GTI and Mk.VI Jetta.

      So basically, stock: Mk.I and Mk.II, by a LOT.
      Modified: Give the Mk.III a look. There are so few performance-oriented Mk.IIIs around that I think people forget how good they CAN be.

      One day I will build an ABA/16v Mk.III with a limited slip diff, properly set up coils, some burly sways and beefy tires and it will be awesome.



      Also, if you have enough spring rate on the coils, I recommend considering a stock rear sway and a front sway bar delete, should you ever build one.

      There was a better version of this video BITD, sans ****ty music. A 3 minute version of Trac Racing's MKIII VR vs the 993. Not sure what variant it is, but the P car part is at the end. It's usually referred to as a GT3, but I don't think it is...

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      10-01-2012 02:42 AM #359
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      One day I will build an ABA/16v Mk.III with a limited slip diff, properly set up coils, some burly sways and beefy tires and it will be awesome.
      ABA 2.0? Why not run an ABF... With a turbo and built tranny.
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      10-01-2012 03:12 AM #360
      Quote Originally Posted by phil123 View Post
      ABA 2.0? Why not run an ABF... With a turbo and built tranny.
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.
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      10-01-2012 07:52 AM #361
      Quote Originally Posted by ZACHER3tuning View Post
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.
      yeah we get it, you fap to mk3s

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      10-01-2012 09:41 AM #362
      Quote Originally Posted by phil123 View Post
      ABA 2.0? Why not run an ABF... With a turbo and built tranny.
      ABAs are more available, and using the ABA block nets 8.5:1 compression after the head swap. That's perfect for boost. I believe the ABA has a longer stroke than the ABF too, which nets more torque, and it gives me the option of using a 1.8l 16v head, which flows better stock.
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      10-01-2012 10:20 AM #363
      Saw the OP's name and knew exactly how this would pan out.


    14. 10-01-2012 11:00 AM #364




      Got bumped into A Stock that day; in fairness it was the only time all year Matias was not 2s faster than me, but still....

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      10-01-2012 11:12 AM #365
      Quote Originally Posted by nemo1ner View Post
      Saw the OP's name and knew exactly how this would pan out.

      Good thing the poll is showing how the rest of us feel. The MK3 is currently sitting second from the bottom in votes.

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      10-01-2012 12:23 PM #366
      Quote Originally Posted by ZACHER3tuning View Post
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.
      You got me, can I change my vote to Mk3 now?
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      10-01-2012 12:35 PM #367
      Originally Posted by ZACHER3tuning
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.


      You got me, can I change my vote to Mk3 now?
      sure, but just remember if you plan on taking it anywhere, you're committing to building an actual car. the mkiii chassis only functions as a platform upon which a proper driving car might be built. unless of course you believe its looks are to die for, in which case a place to polish it and talk about it reportedly will do.

      you know; just about perfect.

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      10-01-2012 12:46 PM #368
      Quote Originally Posted by Dubai Vol View Post




      Got bumped into A Stock that day; in fairness it was the only time all year Matias was not 2s faster than me, but still....
      Very nice!

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      10-01-2012 12:47 PM #369
      Quote Originally Posted by ZACHER3tuning View Post
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.
      I wasn't convinced, but the cute little heart at the end of your post totally changed my mind.

      I'm a MK3 man now!!!!
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      10-01-2012 01:19 PM #370
      Quote Originally Posted by thebanker View Post
      I wasn't convinced, but the cute little heart at the end of your post totally changed my mind.

      I'm a MK3 man now!!!!
      LOL, don't feed the troll.

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      10-01-2012 03:57 PM #371
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      I think the Mk.I and Mk.II are the best. Stock, hands down, best driver's car GTI. Modified the playing field starts to level out though. Once you start modifying I think the Mk.III really comes into its own. The platform is stiffer than the Mk.I and II, the suspension setup is very similar to the Mk.II(which is a very good thing), and it weighs significantly less than the subsequent generations. The interior in the Mk.III is better than the earlier generations, and has really aged well.

      my thoughts exactly.

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      10-01-2012 04:03 PM #372
      Quote Originally Posted by ZACHER3tuning View Post
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.


      I'm convinced! I have been swayed. Is anyone interested in trading their MkIII for a modified 1974 Datsun Z? Clearly i've found the wrong path in life but I believe ZACHER3tuning has shown me the light. PREACH BROTHA!

      You seriously still preaching this **** about Mk3 GTi's?

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      10-01-2012 04:53 PM #373
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      You seriously still preaching this **** about Mk3 GTi's?
      Yep. And he will continue to do so as long as he has an audience. MK3's are crap, and any true GTI enthusiast who has driven every generation will agree.

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      10-01-2012 04:56 PM #374
      Quote Originally Posted by nemo1ner View Post
      Yep. And he will continue to do so as long as he has an audience. MK3's are crap, and any true GTI enthusiast who has driven every generation will agree.
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      Quote Originally Posted by thebanker View Post
      Imagine that, someone in touch with reality who understands that just because he owns it doesn't make it TEH BEST!

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      Because I couldn't find a MK5 for $1500. Also, I own the only GTI that matters.
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      10-01-2012 05:25 PM #378
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam144 View Post
      Imagine that, someone in touch with reality who understands that just because he owns it doesn't make it TEH BEST!
      Whatever. Volvos WERE the best. But I might set it on fire now that I've seen the light of the great MK3.
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      10-01-2012 07:53 PM #379
      Everyone knows that ZACHER3TUNING has the best car of all time. It's not a VW, it's THE VW.


      So therefore, this thread is invalid.

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      his name is joey. sometimes known as joeyz.
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    31. 10-01-2012 08:41 PM #381
      11 pages of honda trolling. Can't say I expected anything else Captain.

      Voted mark 4. 1.8t. Good traction/hp/handling/braking. Good mods for the money. ("cannot loose" disclaimer.) Over all best so it gets the vote. In my opinion though, there no replacement for displacement, so my vr wins my heart.

      As for all the vw lovers attempting to post, ignore the trolls, and just post on topic.
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      10-01-2012 09:02 PM #382
      Quote Originally Posted by ZACHER3tuning View Post
      you guys dont have to justify anything here, those who own mk3 gti's know, and those who dont , just dont know yet...With looks to die for, and a proper platform to build on, they are just about perfect.
      in other news 512 out of 568 people polled agree that the mk3 is the **** end of the gti stick

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      10-01-2012 09:38 PM #383
      I'm not trying to feed the troll here, but all the Mk3 hate seriously makes me want to change my vote to Mk3 VR6. In a weird way, it's actually in keeping with the character of the Mk1....Americans all seem to think that the Mk1 was built to be a fly-weight autocross champion because we're used to big cars with big engines. But in it's original European context, the Mk1 was actually notable because they shoved a 100+ horsepower fuel-injected motor into their bread-and-butter hatchback. So it was actually a bit of a muscle car....a muscle car for 1970's Europe.

      I was a kid when the Mk3 was new and I remember thinking what a novel/crazy idea it seemed (to me) to stick a "big" V6 into a hatchback. I loved the lines, the sleeper-ness of it and the fact that I knew it was faster than my dad's E36 318i (which, because it was a BMW and it made nice noises, I assumed was quick ).

      Anyway these days, Mk3s seem like good, cheap, tune-able fun. And that's the appeal of GTIs, right? So can't we all just get along?

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      10-01-2012 10:07 PM #384
      My favorite GTI is a newer one that is still under warranty. I appreciate people who tinker with old ones but I'm just looking for a fairly reliable econobox with a soul as a daily driver. My MK V GTI (still on its 7 year/100K extended warranty) is way better than my old MK IV GTI.

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      10-01-2012 10:27 PM #385
      Quote Originally Posted by Charlie84 View Post
      Americans all seem to think that the Mk1 was built to be a fly-weight autocross champion because we're used to big cars with big engines.
      Regardless of intent, it is a flyweight car. It's not unheard of for a car to become more desirable over the years just by being a product of its time.

      I was a kid when the Mk3 was new and I remember thinking what a novel/crazy idea it seemed (to me) to stick a "big" V6 into a hatchback.
      Chevy did it first with the Citation X-11... which actually beat the Mk1 GTI to the US market by two years (1981). Of course it was OHV and made 135hp, it it was a 2.8L V6, and that car was a lot lighter than a Mk3 GTI.

      Anyway these days, Mk3s seem like good, cheap, tune-able fun.
      I owned one. They're just not that good. However cheap they are you'll make up for in repairs and deferred maintenance. VR6 parts were always expensive, and the damned thing is so complicated. Just because it's one of the worst GTIs (I'll reserve that full honor for the MkIV 2.0 8v) doesn't mean it's a bad car altogether. I did think it was cool enough to buy once, and this was back when they were late model cars and relatively expensive.
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