Last edited by John Y; 09-29-2012 at 10:21 AM.
Perhaps I'm the only one, but I like the red stripe on the grill. And I like that it goes through to the headlights, making the front clip more uniform. Plus it's a simple differentiator between the GTI and the regular Golf, along with the honeycomb grill. Besides, until we see one in person, it's tough to easily see how it integrates with the rest of the car (besides tracing straigh to the fender line on the front clip of the car). But it seems that I'm in the minority on that opinion.
I'm honestly baffled at the focus on aesthetics. The mk7 technical stats are massive all-around improvement in everyway.
mk7 vs. mk6 GTI:
+17 hp, +27 hp*
+51 tq (MASSIVE +25% increase!!!)
-200 lbs (while car is slightly larger/roomier)
Maybe because most of the above has already been guessed at in rumors, and the key new thing now are the real pictures? Just had to vent, carry on
The dynamics of the new car do sound fabulous - problem is, people on the forum don't know what will make it stateside, and no one has driven one to tell us what it's like yet, either. The looks are staring us in the face right now!
The only part I really think has no place on the car is the fender badge; aside from looking very tacked-on, it just seems like some silly, self-congratulation is going on if the badge stays. Let's not gild the lily, here - I have owned 4 GTIs and 2 other Golf models and love them - but please, a GTI ought to be a little more low-key.
Another nit-picky concern is that I don't like the apparent extent to which the center console is recessed within the dash: it's just kind of "shrouded" in there and seems a little old-fashioned.
Last edited by John Y; 09-29-2012 at 01:00 PM.
I totally agree, I get all my VW's in red and it's the best. the fender badge needs to go for sure. But if you look closely the red looks metallic red, which is odd. I remember that there was a metallic red audi paint that I never liked, it was really tough to tell but always looked "off".smyle1%...
Why is it that I'm not feeling the MKVII in Tornado Red?.... (and I owned a T.R. MKVI and ABSOLUTELY loved it!!)
Maybe its a combination of the extra red lines in the lights and the fact that the new fender badging gets lost in T.R.??? I guess there is now such a thing as "too much red."
The electronic parking brake really, really needs to go. what a stupid piece of over-engineering. I think I want to start a petition.
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Family - 07 Jetta 2.5S manual, 07 Passat 2.0T Manual, 09 Tiguan S
I'm in total agreement. Audis with side badges are the very special S and RS versions. Yes, GTI is a special Golf, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Understated excellence is the GTI way.The only part I really think has no place on the car is the fender badge; aside from looking very tacked-on, it just seems like some silly, self-congratulation is going on if the badge stays. Let's not gild the lily, here - I have owned 4 GTIs and 2 other Golf models and love them - but please, a GTI ought to be a little more low-key.
Day 1 mod: Fender badge delete
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Alright let me be more precise, its the part of the red stripe under the lights that doesn't work, I really do like the look of the current double stripe. Well I doubt vw is going to change it so hopefully someone is working on aftermarket nuetral bar for under the headlights lol. I suppose there is always the chance it looks better in person.
One of my favorite features about VW's here to fore has been the steering wheels, but this looks like it came out of the GM-Ford parts bin. I hope this is not a trend we will see in the future with the thick spokes where the the thumb and finger tip back rests. Thick spoke steering wheels are hard to use and feel less secure to operate.
I am surprised by the dislike of the e-brake on the forum. I like it in my Tiguan, miss the one from my b6 passat and don't like the hydraulic one I have now.
Last edited by Das Schnurrbart; 09-29-2012 at 10:09 PM.
The alternative solution is to keep the somewhat restrictive valves and cool the exhaust post turbine, the cool air is denser therefore you can increasing mass flow rates just as with a valve lift system and still maintain the same pressure ratio. With an actively cooled integrated manifold there is likely no need for valve-lift. I would not be surprised to see valve-lift being offered exclusively in the high output engine. If they do offer valve-lift in the Gti with a robust cooling system to minimize heat soak, it will have a well-spring of power to unlock.
This is how I arrived at my gut feeling, but in the end there are many ways to arrive at the same destination and maybe they chose the valve-lift way.
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I completely agree with regards to the steering wheel. They're raised the bar with it that anything less is mediocre. Anyone else see some similarities with the Evo X wheel?
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So many of the negative comments are due to VW not adhering to the old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Can't they just accept the fact that some features can no longer be improved upon anymore? It seems that they are now simply overkilling everything design wise.
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