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    Thread: Wow, the Buick Verano is Very Impressive

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      09-30-2012 12:48 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Quattro80 View Post
      Why couldn't they just slap on a Buick badge on this thing instead? This looks a bazillion times better, IMO.
      It does, not to mention the front end looks spectacular on the Astra as well.
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      09-30-2012 12:51 AM #27
      All it needs is hood vents and chrome eyebrows above the tail-lights deleted and it would be fine...

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      09-30-2012 12:57 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Quattro80 View Post
      Why couldn't they just slap on a Buick badge on this thing instead? This looks a bazillion times better, IMO.
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      It does, not to mention the front end looks spectacular on the Astra as well.
      Uh, save for the chrome tail light "eyebrows", it looks exactly the same.
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      09-30-2012 12:59 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by PJA View Post
      Uh, save for the chrome tail light "eyebrows", it looks exactly the same.
      That's the point.

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      09-30-2012 01:01 AM #30
      Now you're just being ridiculous.
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    6. 09-30-2012 02:09 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      That's the point.
      The chrome brows do look ridiculous.
      The front of the Verano looks good, but gm screwed the back, just like on the ATS: front looks mean but back is BLEH. I'd suppose BLEH is better than the brows tho

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      09-30-2012 02:27 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Quattro80 View Post
      Why couldn't they just slap on a Buick badge on this thing instead? This looks a bazillion times better, IMO.
      Because America loves chrome and shiny things.

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      09-30-2012 08:54 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      Sorry, this car just looks way too Chinese for me

      To be honest - I like everything about the Verano except the rear. In fact - every time I see the rear I think of all the guady design turds that that are associated with the Chinese car market. Which makes total sense, because the Verano we got was originally designed for and debuted in China....

      GM should have let us get the Opel designed rear

    9. 09-30-2012 09:32 AM #34
      How do i remember your name from IGN lol...

      Out of the MY2012 Buicks, the Verano, IMO, is the only one decently priced

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      09-30-2012 01:01 PM #35
      Thanks for all the help guys

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      09-30-2012 01:19 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Quattro80 View Post
      Why couldn't they just slap on a Buick badge on this thing instead? This looks a bazillion times better, IMO.
      Wow, that does look much better.

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      09-30-2012 01:26 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Quattro80 View Post
      Why couldn't they just slap on a Buick badge on this thing instead? This looks a bazillion times better, IMO.
      I'd imagine at some point early in the program there was a concern over both Astra & Verano (Excelle) being sold in the same market, and thus, the need for differentiation. But that is just me speculating (i.e. I have no idea.).

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      09-30-2012 03:15 PM #38
      I really like everything about this car, except those hideous chrome strips above the tail light. This is a deal breaker for me, to these eyes they are equivalent to the chrome beaked TL. Maybe it will look better with the refresh? I wont even start a "why no manual" debate here, but that would make the car perfect... imo of course
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      09-30-2012 03:21 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      Sorry, this car just looks way too Chinese for me
      German car fans are thrown off by any expanse of chrome on the grill unless it looks like a huge chrome bib or horse collar.
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    15. 09-30-2012 03:31 PM #40
      You could probably just buy the astra taillights if its that big of a deal.

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      09-30-2012 03:33 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      German car fans are thrown off by any expanse of chrome on the grill unless it looks like a huge chrome bib or horse collar.
      Right? I guess a little chrome on a German car's rear makes it look Chinese. Infallible logic.
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      09-30-2012 04:12 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      German car fans are thrown off by any expanse of chrome on the grill unless it looks like a huge chrome bib or horse collar.
      Bhahahaha so true!

      But why do I not really mind the chrome on the front of a mk5 jetta, but find the rear of the Verano disgusting? Hmm...
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      09-30-2012 04:17 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by MK5golf View Post
      But why do I not really mind the chrome on the front of a mk5 jetta, but find the rear of the Verano disgusting? Hmm...
      I personally love chrome trim in general, but I think it was poorly applied to the back of the Verano. I do like the hood vents and the grille though.

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      09-30-2012 07:08 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by PJA View Post
      Now you're just being ridiculous.
      Sure

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      09-30-2012 07:13 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by MK5golf View Post
      Bhahahaha so true!

      But why do I not really mind the chrome on the front of a mk5 jetta, but find the rear of the Verano disgusting? Hmm...
      Because it looks stupid as hell that's why. Why is it such a blasphemy to have an opinion? I never said chrome looked terrible on cars, it was just executed on the Verano in such a piss-poor GM style manner that it looks like some tacky turd straight out of China.

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      10-01-2012 07:23 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      Because it looks stupid as hell that's why. Why is it such a blasphemy to have an opinion? I never said chrome looked terrible on cars, it was just executed on the Verano in such a piss-poor GM style manner that it looks like some tacky turd straight out of China.
      I think using the word "China" as a negative is the problem here. Try making your critique without being offensive to an entire nation and its citizens.

      I agree, however, that the chrome eyebrows ruin an otherwise nice little sedan. It makes the back of the car look an angry Muppet (Burt or Sam the Eagle).

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      10-01-2012 07:26 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by 1995Camry View Post
      You could probably just buy the astra taillights if its that big of a deal.

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      The rear bumper cap and trunk lid look to be pretty unique to each car. It would probably be easier to pull off the eyebrows and rattlecan them the same color as the rest of the car.

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      10-01-2012 07:58 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      I think using the word "China" as a negative is the problem here. Try making your critique without being offensive to an entire nation and its citizens.

      I agree, however, that the chrome eyebrows ruin an otherwise nice little sedan. It makes the back of the car look an angry Muppet (Burt or Sam the Eagle).
      They make terrible looking cars...often very ugly but blatant copies of current models. If an entire country is offended by that...tough, encourage the chinese auto industry to design more attractive vehicles.

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      10-01-2012 08:52 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by rbloedow View Post
      To be honest - I like everything about the Verano except the rear. In fact - every time I see the rear I think of all the guady design turds that that are associated with the Chinese car market. Which makes total sense, because the Verano we got was originally designed for and debuted in China....
      No, that's not the right way to look at it.

      The Verano and Excelle were designed at the same time by the same global team, with the US and Shanghai teams applying changes to suit the local markets at the end. GM was able to get it out in China first because they were able to get a factory spun up to build it. Gotta remember that GM went bankrupt around the time they would've been putting together the plans to get Orion Assembly switched over. The money simply wasn't there to get that going, and the credit markets were in terrible shape so they couldn't just borrow the money. Also, the average wages at that plant pre-bankruptcy were very high. They couldn't have built a car like the Sonic or Verano (which are not high-margin vehicles) and sell it at a profit, without doing what they did -- which is lay off a massive portion of the workforce there, and the negotiate lower wages with the UAW in order to avoid moving production of new cars offshore.

      Things are much better now -- Orion Assembly is a profit center for GM now, so strategically GM did things right. It just meant the Verano couldn't be built until MY2012.

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      10-01-2012 09:25 AM #50
      For what it's worth my mom likes the tail lights. Non-car nerds tend to love chrome and other bright work on cars. I remember Bob Lutz saying something like $50 of chrome can add $300-400 to the price of a car in perception to customers.

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