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      09-29-2012 11:20 AM #1
      hello all. I am new to this great forum. I live in California. just got my 08 MK5 R32 (4761). I am looking for a good exhaust. I am leaning more towards the Borla catback but would like some opinions on exhaust options and why. I like the fit and finish of the Borla but is the Borla sound... worth it vs neuspeed or miltek as examples??
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      09-29-2012 11:31 AM #2
      Am stock but from what i read on forums Neuspeed drones alot and some people had bad customer service with Miltek... again am stock

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      09-29-2012 11:46 AM #3
      I have had a Borla now for 6 months. It's quiet at idle and low load...sounds great opened up. I wish it was a tad bit louder at idle, to be honest. There isn't another exhaust that matches it in tonality as far as I'm concerned (for the MKV) though.

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      09-29-2012 11:50 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by TVirus View Post
      hello all. I am new to this great forum. I live in California. just got my 08 MK5 R32 (4761). I am looking for a good exhaust. I am leaning more towards the Borla catback but would like some opinions on exhaust options and why. I like the fit and finish of the Borla but is the Borla sound... worth it vs neuspeed or miltek as examples??
      What do you want? Deep? Screaming? Loud? Just some sound? Planning any more tuning (HFC/ Cams? ....)? Budget?

      From Tampa mod to Supersprint there are many options.

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      09-29-2012 12:13 PM #5
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      What do you want? Deep? Screaming? Loud? Just some sound? Planning any more tuning (HFC/ Cams? ....)? Budget?
      From Tampa mod to Supersprint there are many options
      i like the current sound of the exhaust just a bit louder and deeper would be much, much better in the R32. some crackling or backfiring sounds (like my BMWZ4 had) would be awesome. as of right now though i am not planning any major mods. i want to go with intake, exhaust, debating on headers right now and will be shopping for a better suspension (non adjustable... I think). i havent read much into ecu flashing or anything else as of yet.
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      09-29-2012 12:18 PM #6
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      I have had a Borla now for 6 months. It's quiet at idle and low load...sounds great opened up. I wish it was a tad bit louder at idle, to be honest. There isn't another exhaust that matches it in tonality as far as I'm concerned (for the MKV) though.
      If you were to choose an exhaust again would you stay stock, go with the Borla or another?
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      09-29-2012 12:20 PM #7
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      I have had a Borla now for 6 months. It's quiet at idle and low load...sounds great opened up. I wish it was a tad bit louder at idle, to be honest. There isn't another exhaust that matches it in tonality as far as I'm concerned (for the MKV) though.
      Do you prefer stock over aftermarket exhaust?
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      09-29-2012 12:32 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by TVirus View Post
      If you were to choose an exhaust again would you stay stock, go with the Borla or another?
      I've had the Borla on for ten months. I'd do it again.

      It's a good compromise between "wife friendly" in the DD regime and intoxicating when flogging the snot out of it.
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      09-29-2012 12:38 PM #9
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      My wife has a 97 240. she is into cars like i am. when you say "wife friendly" do you mean not noisy like a mustang V8 exhaust or a honda scratchy exhaust?
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      09-29-2012 12:55 PM #10
      i want something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c33wnxuxAKg

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      09-29-2012 01:30 PM #11
      From what I've heard, the borla is nice but if I was buying aftermarket, I'd get miltek or scorpion. Based on what you said you wanted, best bet is to just do the tampamod and maybe use the larger resonator that has been mentioned here.

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      09-29-2012 06:23 PM #12
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      From what I've heard, the borla is nice but if I was buying aftermarket, I'd get miltek or scorpion. Based on what you said you wanted, best bet is to just do the tampamod and maybe use the larger resonator that has been mentioned here.

      See my sig for ideas/discussion about suspension.

      Anyways, welcome! You going to be at Oktoberfest?
      Tampamod?? i am not even sure what that is? i am not even sure i where we discussed a bigger resonator here... where is your sig and where is the Oktoberfest happening?
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      09-29-2012 11:47 PM #13
      If i were to do it over...I'd probably just get my OEM muffler cut off and install new tips and retain the stock resonator.

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      09-30-2012 02:25 AM #14
      So the Borla exhaust is not worth it? are there any owners here that have a sound clip of there Borlas or scorpion exhaust, Milteks and so on??
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      09-30-2012 02:37 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by TVirus View Post
      So the Borla exhaust is not worth it? are there any owners here that have a sound clip of there Borlas or scorpion exhaust, Milteks and so on??
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJP-...ature=youtu.be

      http://s1098.photobucket.com/albums/...t=281e69e6.mp4

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      09-30-2012 03:03 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by TVirus View Post
      Mr_Peach


      My wife has a 97 240. she is into cars like i am. when you say "wife friendly" do you mean not noisy like a mustang V8 exhaust or a honda scratchy exhaust?
      I don't know those two systems...

      Mrs_Peach and I have our AARP cards. She cuts me some slack on performance mods, but if I had an exhaust that you had to raise your voice to converse while cruising, I'd hear about it from her. Some of the non resonated ones seem to be getting pretty loud, judging by those who've moved away from them.

      It's hugely subjective. If you're in a decent sized city, go to a gtg and ask for a ride in a car with the exhaust you're interested in. I've done that for others.
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      09-30-2012 05:12 AM #17
      Had a Borla Exhaust on my .:R32 and I never regretted it.

      Excellent sounding exhaust system.

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      09-30-2012 06:49 AM #18
      I tried a resonator delete for a while. Then went with a Borla. I liked the resonator delete sound at nearly all load and throttle positions (except a couple where it gets a bit raspy). I went with the Borla as I got a good deal and like Mr. and Mrs. Peach we are card carrying AARP members.
      I have the ECS resonator delete pipe for half price if you'd like to buy it. Still shiney and used only about 2 months.

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      09-30-2012 08:22 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by TVirus View Post
      Tampamod?? i am not even sure what that is? i am not even sure i where we discussed a bigger resonator here... where is your sig and where is the Oktoberfest happening?
      yes tampamod

      Originally Posted by r32aspirant another happy owner

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      09-30-2012 10:36 AM #20
      I have the milltek non-res system. I ended up adding a 4" diameter resonator because it was way too loud for daily driving. Even now the drone below 2500rpms is still rediculous. Most aftermarket exhausts will drone at least a little bacause of the acoustics of the hatch back. The milltek and scorpion will be the loudest because of their pipe diameter. with that said im going to add higj flow cats when I get my cams installled because for me, just a little bit louder is worth the performance gains.

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      09-30-2012 11:27 AM #21
      I have Borla over a year now. it has nice deep sound, not overly loud and has minimum drone.

      However if i have 4k to burn, I will get capristo.
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    22. 09-30-2012 01:11 PM #22
      Its been a month or so since I did the tampa mod. The video posted here is a cold start. Once the engine warms up, the sound is much deeper. The exhaust pops as well

      I think the flapper system on the stock is a great feature if you want to do the tampa mod (There are a couple or so after market systems that have it. Not to mention they cost north of 3 grand). The flapper is open at idle, 1st and 2'nd gear. Rest of the time it opens after 3500rpm. Zero drone on highway.

      Really happy camper here! Would definitely recommend

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      PS: Also, when testing the tampamod, the shop discovered a leak in one of the CATs. Needless to say my awesome dealer (douglas VW) replaced it without any problem.

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      09-30-2012 05:57 PM #23
      So far i will stick to borla. price will be $725 shipped... is this a reasonable price??. next will be headers (unless i am told via my new forum pals) that stock headers are good to go. i just want to get my R32 some good breathing room without exhaust being to loud and obnoxious about upgrades.

      So Borla sounds to fit my interest then

      VWVortex buds thanx for pointing me in the right direction
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      09-30-2012 05:58 PM #24
      Headers = not very effective

      Hfc = way better bang for the buck

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      09-30-2012 06:23 PM #25
      Amazon is $719 shipped (+ tax?), so that's a fair price.

      I hit an oddball deal there lat year for $545 shipped +tax, so miracles do happen. I wasn't even thinking about doing exhaust untill they teased me with the deal.
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      09-30-2012 08:33 PM #26
      HFC come with the Borla?

      or is this something i need to purchase separately
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      09-30-2012 08:58 PM #27
      Here is mine with a magnaflow cat-back.
      I like it. It is loud when on it but when cruising its not bad at all. The Vr6 sounds great anyways so its not like loud is a bad thing

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      09-30-2012 11:47 PM #28
      HFCs are separate, unrelated to Borla cat back.
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      10-01-2012 02:03 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by BlixaBargeld View Post
      Headers = not very effective

      Hfc = way better bang for the buck
      Proof?

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      10-01-2012 05:49 AM #30
      I've been running the Borla exhaust for 7 months and I love it. Great build quality (2nd only to the nuespeed in my opinion). Although my good friend has the Nuespeed on his R32 and it is loud! Not my thing. The Borla is a great big boy exhaust, doesn't sound like a kid with honda or subaru. And it sounds amazing when I put the car in sport mode.

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      10-01-2012 06:17 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by sixteen10 View Post
      Proof?
      How much are headers? 2k and up? HFC is $200 and has decent gains. The headers are not cost effective ( even if the gains would be twice of the header ones > which judging my MK IV results they are not)
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      10-01-2012 09:18 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by BlixaBargeld View Post
      How much are headers? 2k and up? HFC is $200 and has decent gains. The headers are not cost effective ( even if the gains would be twice of the header ones > which judging my MK IV results they are not)
      Headers alone are not $2K upwards , the HFCs included in that setup make up more than half of the value.

      The cheapest option would be to order the Headers with the test pipe option and weld in some universal HFCs much like dubnick32 did.

      On the other hand I would love to see a comparison on either a stock system or header back of OE cats vs decat vs HFC. My guess is that the results would be very similar.

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      10-01-2012 10:27 AM #33
      Then you are Frankensteining your own system.
      Milltek mani with HFC vivid racing 2812 let's say the cat section is 1800 and the one without cat is 500. Now add some HFC and welding and you are close to 2k
      And Superspring is usually more expensive

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      10-01-2012 10:45 AM #34
      $$$$

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      10-01-2012 10:47 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by BlixaBargeld View Post
      Then you are Frankensteining your own system.
      Milltek mani with HFC vivid racing 2812 let's say the cat section is 1800 and the one without cat is 500. Now add some HFC and welding and you are close to 2k
      And Superspring is usually more expensive
      Much like you would be whacking HFCs in place of the OE pieces.

      This just leads me back to my original question , unless somebody has conclusive evidence , on a mk5 , that HFCs gain hp over OE cats and do the same test by adding headers then it is all just hearsay?

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