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      09-30-2012 11:54 PM #1
      Anybody think we'll see one? I could see Dodge doing a reaaally good reincarnation of the gargle boat we all know and love...




      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc49uU0fyBg

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      09-30-2012 11:58 PM #2
      Sidenote...i like the idea of the caliber srt but...it doesnt do it for me like the neon did, i dont feel as intimidated when a guy meets you at a light in a caliber...

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      10-01-2012 12:10 AM #3
      There is a sport version. Better than any previous srt4 already.

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      10-01-2012 12:22 AM #4
      I wish that car was rwd, I would buy one. I like everything about it besides the layout.


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      10-01-2012 12:32 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by boylemk4 View Post
      Anybody think we'll see one? I could see Dodge doing a reaaally good reincarnation of the gargle boat we all know and love...




      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc49uU0fyBg

      Haaaaha
      With SRT being its own brand now, would that even be possible?
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      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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    7. 10-01-2012 01:05 AM #7
      One has been made and will be released soon. It will be the Dart SRT....no more 4. SRT cars will start to move away from the number acronyms.

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      10-01-2012 02:49 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by smoove7410 View Post
      One has been made and will be released soon. It will be the Dart SRT....no more 4. SRT cars will start to move away from the number acronyms.
      This. It's coming.
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      10-01-2012 02:54 AM #9
      I wonder how long before we start hearing about various bits of the Dart that fail early in the vehicles life.

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      10-01-2012 03:14 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
      With SRT being its own brand now, would that even be possible?
      The SRT4 was never labeled as a neon. It was it's own model.
      Also I really hope that the SRT Dart uses the 1.75L Multiair that was featured in the MiTo GTA concept. I wouldn't be opposed to a higher displacement motor though...
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      10-01-2012 03:23 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
      The SRT4 was never labeled as a neon. It was it's own model.
      So do you suspect we will have an SRT Dart? Or will they call it an SRT 4?

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      10-01-2012 03:54 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      So do you suspect we will have an SRT Dart? Or will they call it an SRT 4?
      Yes, you understand. I would think it would be an SRT Dart, not a Dodge Dart SRT or Dodge Dart SRT-4 because SRT is its own brand now.
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      10-01-2012 04:01 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      So do you suspect we will have an SRT Dart? Or will they call it an SRT 4?
      Quote Originally Posted by smoove7410 View Post
      One has been made and will be released soon. It will be the Dart SRT....no more 4. SRT cars will start to move away from the number acronyms.


      Anyway, I'm expecting to see it in the coming months. January at NAIAS at the latest.

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      10-01-2012 04:04 AM #14
      So they need to have 2 brands to sell one car? I don't understand this company. If they sold different cars fine, but having an SRT Dart and a Dodge Dart is just silly. They will both be sold under the same dealer, I doubt there will be any SRT-only dealers. So why have a whole new 'brand'. Or are they going to kill the Dodge name off?

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      10-01-2012 04:32 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      So they need to have 2 brands to sell one car? I don't understand this company. If they sold different cars fine, but having an SRT Dart and a Dodge Dart is just silly. They will both be sold under the same dealer, I doubt there will be any SRT-only dealers. So why have a whole new 'brand'. Or are they going to kill the Dodge name off?
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      10-01-2012 05:48 AM #16
      To be honest, SRT is no different than how AMG is to MB, or quarto is to Audi. Only difference is that cars from SRT don't wear the parent company's badge.

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      10-01-2012 06:21 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
      To be honest, SRT is no different than how AMG is to MB, or quarto is to Audi. Only difference is that cars from SRT don't wear the parent company's badge.

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      The amount of paper work and legal fees and ... required to operate a completely independent brand is ginormous compared to something like AMG or M or Quattro or -V or .... It's really not the same. It's not even close.

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      10-01-2012 06:29 AM #18
      That would be easier to accept if they didn't create a new brand to contain all their trucks. They'll probably confuse things further by making a Jeep pickup.

      Would a heavy duty police Charger be a RAM?

      With the 500 falling under Fiat branding, would they bring over the Strada as a Fiat or RAM?
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      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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      10-01-2012 07:32 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post
      I wish that car was rwd, I would buy one. I like everything about it besides the layout.


      Then again I can say the same thing about a Cruze.
      Most budget minded compact sedans are FWD-based. I'm not sure if that is ever going to change. Maybe if Chevy makes the Code 130 concept into reality, but otherwise your choices for a small RWD sedan are limited to used copies of the Lexus IS, Infiniti G, or BMW 3 Series.

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      10-01-2012 09:06 AM #20
      It's still just a Dart.


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      10-01-2012 09:31 AM #21
      IF we get one at work I really hope I get to play with it. I've been looking forward to these cars for a while.

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      10-01-2012 09:36 AM #22
      Who cares which badges it will wear or what division will produce it? Just put the car out there for crissake! I would definiteley take a test drive.
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      10-01-2012 09:44 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
      It's still just a Dart.



      But will the SRT Dart have power rear windows?

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      10-01-2012 11:45 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by mike02467 View Post
      So they need to have 2 brands to sell one car? I don't understand this company. If they sold different cars fine, but having an SRT Dart and a Dodge Dart is just silly. They will both be sold under the same dealer, I doubt there will be any SRT-only dealers. So why have a whole new 'brand'. Or are they going to kill the Dodge name off?
      I suspect it has to do with the selling prices of the econo brand reputation of Dodge. Noone in their right mind buys a Dodge unless it's severely discounted. They depreciate fast, they don't have the best build quality and reliability. I suggest they're starting a new 'brand' where they can reprogram people to expect less discounting for "high performance" vehicles. Dodge can continue to be the volume brand, but this way it won't hinder markups for the SRT models. Just a wag, but follow the money.
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    26. 10-01-2012 12:20 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post

      Would a heavy duty police Charger be a RAM?
      Question doesn't make sense.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Fe2O3 View Post
      I suspect it has to do with the selling prices of the econo brand reputation of Dodge. Noone in their right mind buys a Dodge unless it's severely discounted. They depreciate fast, they don't have the best build quality and reliability. I suggest they're starting a new 'brand' where they can reprogram people to expect less discounting for "high performance" vehicles. Dodge can continue to be the volume brand, but this way it won't hinder markups for the SRT models. Just a wag, but follow the money.
      What was Hyundai's reputation just 5 years ago? Sure, there are some who refuse to look at how far they've come, but overall their reputation is fantastic compared to 2008.
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      10-01-2012 12:36 PM #29
      The brands were shuffled and segmented so that they could be sold off individually if the Fiat deal fell through. Viper is actually its own brand, too.

      You guys are reading a bit too far into it.
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    30. 10-01-2012 04:10 PM #30
      i was thinking it might get a 2.4 w/ turbo,awd and dual clutch. Now i get the feeling it's going to be way more basic than that

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      10-01-2012 04:45 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by SSLByron View Post
      The brands were shuffled and segmented so that they could be sold off individually if the Fiat deal fell through. Viper is actually its own brand, too.

      You guys are reading a bit too far into it.
      Partially right. Viper is the first unique model for SRT. Dodge lost the Viper because Fiat/Chrysler felt there was a limit for how much potential customers will pay for a Dodge. Viper will be joined by a reborn Barracuda in the SRT line-up. I don't know if this all sound business thinking, rather than just fixing Dodge. Given the Dart's slow sales, maybe Dodge can't be fixed?

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      10-01-2012 05:08 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Remedy View Post
      Question doesn't make sense.
      Quote Originally Posted by czykvw View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by apizzaparty View Post
      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      Partially right. Viper is the first unique model for SRT. Dodge lost the Viper because Fiat/Chrysler felt there was a limit for how much potential customers will pay for a Dodge. Viper will be joined by a reborn Barracuda in the SRT line-up. I don't know if this all sound business thinking, rather than just fixing Dodge. Given the Dart's slow sales, maybe Dodge can't be fixed?
      SRT getting spun off into its own division has nothing to do with its potential for success as a Dodge model. The Viper, moreso than even the GT-R and Corvette, has an intensely loyal fan-base who would buy the car if it were badged a Fargo should Chrysler be so inclined. Chrysler created the SRT brand to soothe/stoke certain egos. Specifically, Ralph Gilles DESPISES the head of Mopar, Pietro Gorlier, so this was seen as a big "FUCK YOU" from Ralph to Pietro.

      That's why Mopar is doing its own branded vehicles now, too.

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      10-01-2012 05:16 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti View Post
      SRT getting spun off into its own division has nothing to do with its potential for success as a Dodge model. The Viper, moreso than even the GT-R and Corvette, has an intensely loyal fan-base who would buy the car if it were badged a Fargo should Chrysler be so inclined. Chrysler created the SRT brand to soothe/stoke certain egos. Specifically, Ralph Gilles DESPISES the head of Mopar, Pietro Gorlier, so this was seen as a big "FUCK YOU" from Ralph to Pietro.

      That's why Mopar is doing its own branded vehicles now, too.
      Which is why it's horrifically expensive. It's a pissing match. There's no legitimate reason why you'd spin off so many niche brands basically for the sake of spinning off brands.

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      10-01-2012 05:20 PM #35
      ^

      That's retarded.

      Jeep
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      If they wanted to win the brand diversity race, I think they got it. At least for America. They might as well go global and start making each model its own brand, then they can have more brands than anyone in the world. Each model would now be a super model because both only have one name.
      Quote Originally Posted by apizzaparty View Post
      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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