I too have a clutch that is slipping on my 2010 GTI 6 speed. About 40,000 miles and it slips pretty bad. I've been doing research on clutches and it looks like the SouthBend is the best option, but I'm nervous about the "chatter" noise that many have complained about. That got me thinking ...
As anyone looked into the Golf R, S3 or TTS clutch and if it would work for the GTI? My apologies if that's a dumb question since one is FWD vs AWD but I feel like if it's strong enough to handle the K04 and more without all the noise, why hasn't anyone tried at least some of the clutch parts from one of those cars?
Any insight would be great. thanks!
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Anyway, thanks for those of you that did reply with useful information about the aftermarket clutch options.
It would be great if we could use the flywheel from the Golf R though. No noise and holds more power ... I guess in a perfect world
Why does everyone have to be a dick and post smartass answers? The OP had a very valid question, one I have thought myself. If you don't have something constructive to post, don't post!
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From what I've read/heard the R20 maybe the same as the S3 clutch and people with stock or stage 1 have had issue with slipping. So I for one would not want to go through the time/money only to find out it's not any better then the stock GTI clutch or minimal gain. I would go with the Southbend silent or the FX-400 but you will always get some chatter with both.
Last edited by Fastvolks; 10-03-2012 at 03:44 PM.
Just came across this...
Clutch/PP: >> 31.05.2010: 06J 141 015 A/X (A or AX)
Clutch/PP: 01.06.2010 >>: 06J 141 015 K/X (K or KX)
2012-2013 GTI (now mentions the CRZA Golf R motor):
Clutch/PP: 06J 141 015 J/X (240mm SACHS) (CBFA, CCTA, CCZB, CRZA)
Flywheel: 06J 105 266 H
2012-2013 Golf R:
Clutch/PP: 06J 141 015 J/X (240mm SACHS) (same as above) ($335)
Flywheel: 06F 105 266 AG (LUK)
Flywheel: 06F 105 266 AH (SACHS) (these look more like the S3 flywheel, 6 bolt)
2013 Audi TT
Clutch/PP: 06J 141 015 J/X (240mm SACHS) (same as above)
Flywheel: 06J 105 266 AB (8 bolts)
2013 Audi S3/TTS/Cupra A with CDLA engine
Clutch/PP: 06F 141 015 C/X (240mm LUK) ($480)
Flywheel: 06F 105 266 AG (looks different than above, 6 bolt) ($600)
So it looks like 2012 GTIs have the same clutch that the Golf R and Audi TT has. Not sure if its a different/better design or if its just a later rev of the same. It's at least designed to hold stock Golf R power, though.
The S3/TTS/Cupra R with the K04 has a differentn clutch/PP part number.
So, Golf R and the S3/TTS (K04 cars) have a 6 bolt crank and flywheel. The K03 cars have a 8 bolt crank and flywheel.
The Golf R, however, uses the same clutch as the K03 cars, so apparently the flywheel is independent of the clutch. Does this mean we could use a S3/TTS K04 clutch on a GTI flywheel?
Last edited by Fastvolks; 10-03-2012 at 05:27 PM.
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I have the southbend stage 3 daily silent design...the chatter is there but not unbearable...they did have issues with the first run of production where they made the friction material too thick...I was one of the people who had it replaced(no charge) and no problems since
If you want to hold some power but don't want chatter, you can get the Southbend disc only solution. With as many miles as you have I would put in a new OEM pressure plate, flywheel, and throwout bearing at the same time.
Some people have said the drop in disc is fine for their GTI K04 tune, some people have had the disc only slip on a k04 tune. Pretty much everybody thinks it should be fine for Stage 2.
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if you're going to go further than stage 2, get a southbend or fx-400, OP.
you'll hold power and it'll last a longer time, as it is built to hold it. ive seen a mk6 gti dyno 355 whp with a k04 (obviously alot more than just a k04...), the R clutch will not hold that easily...
My wife is/was learning manual on my TDI... 22K miles on my 2012 (btw today October 4th my car is 1 year) and clutch is dead... Being a diesel with 236 of torque is no the easiest car to lean on, I still kill it sometimes... since it's easier to kill my wife freaks out and did not fully released the cluthch when she was suposed to... Not only that, she also took it on her own around the neighborhood while I was asleep (I work overnight) and said that there was white smoke coming from the hood ... why didnt she stop???? IDK... anyways now every time I drive the car it smells like burnt clutch and it doesnt drive the same any more...