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    Thread: Automotive A.D.D.: The disease many of us suffer from

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      10-02-2012 09:49 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      After watching people on HT throw money out the window because of this habit...I can safely say that it really gets in the way of people owning their 'dream car'

      There's a guy on HT (he might post here too) that continually laments how much $ he spent on his S4 and E36 M3...put together, he could have bought a newer NSX.
      I understand what you mean, but if you can afford the space and the cost of upkeep, what's wrong with collecting cars?
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      10-02-2012 09:49 AM #52
      I've had 15 cars so far this year

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      10-02-2012 09:53 AM #53
      I used to be pretty bad, and went though over 120 cars in the first 20 years of car ownership. I've slowed down lately, but if I had money, I'd have a collection like Leno. And, like Leno, I'd always be adding to it.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      10-02-2012 09:55 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      I understand what you mean, but if you can afford the space and the cost of upkeep, what's wrong with collecting cars?
      Nothing, unless buying and maintaining the cars in the $8-15k range (where most enthusiasts' sweet spot is) is keeping you from buying the $30k+ car you really want.

      I didn't initially mean to quote you, I just wanted to reply to the thread...but I'm glad I did.

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      10-02-2012 10:03 AM #55
      I've owned about 17 cars in the past 10 years, I get bored with the same car quickly.

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      10-02-2012 10:04 AM #56
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      I have gone through a car a year or less for the last 4-5 years. I get bored REALLY easy. The TDI is going to be gone soon also, need a 4 door. So will probably get a mkvi gti since I miss my MKV so much.

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      10-02-2012 10:06 AM #57
      It's worse when you do new cars just becuase of the depreciation. The longest I've kept a car was 39 months, that was my BMW 525i when I was in college because I couldn't afford to get out of it. Lo and behold, that's the one car I wish I didn't sell.

      Had the Z4C since April 2012 and if I could afford a 2009 Cayman it'd be gone yesterday. Love the car though, only reason I'd sell that if I had a change in my finances.

      4Runner since August 2012 and I don't ever want to sell it since it's a nice Toyota truck, that's something you keep in the family.

      Having two dramatically different cars helps the situation tremendously, you get sick of driving a boring truck you hop into the sports car. Don't want to drive stick in traffic? Hop in the comfortable, leather-lined, quiet 4Runner.
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      10-02-2012 10:08 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by dubsport87 View Post
      I've owned about 17 cars in the past 10 years, I get bored with the same car quickly.
      I have to say I do not understand this. To me, the greatest feeling in car-fandom is to look at the car in your driveway/garage/parking space and feel that deep appreciation for the machine that can only come through time and varied experiences behind the wheel.

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      10-02-2012 10:11 AM #59
      I keep cars 6 months to a year.

      I am however, keeping my SportWagen TDI for a long time. It is that good.

      I have owned two MKVI GTI's... TWO! Two MKVI Golfs as well. So technically I have owned 5 MKVI's...

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      10-02-2012 10:12 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      I keep cars 6 months to a year.
      With how quickly a month passes in the life of the average busy person in an industrialized country...how does this give you any time to enjoy the car?

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      10-02-2012 10:16 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      With how quickly a month passes in the life of the average busy person in an industrialized country...how does this give you any time to enjoy the car?
      Boredom. I drive a lot.

      To me a car is the only appliance that I get bored with. Computers, watches, guns, kitchen, tools, etc I keep for years upon years, but for some reason or another cars... I just end up resenting them or wanting something else.
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      10-02-2012 10:18 AM #62
      2011 I had my 83 BJ60 Land Cruiser, 72 MGB GT, 58 MGA and a 95 LR D1. Moved to England for a year. Now that I am back I bought a place and a Ford Focus. I dont have anything else and it really sucks. I love my Focus but wish I had something else to play with. I really want another MG to play with. I really want another Rover to play with. I really want a Volvo 240 wagon to play with. Closing costs took all my car money


      Its just a waiting game now. I got such a deal on my Focus I know I could sell it and maybe turn a slight profit. I find myself seeing VW Passat wagons around town and find myself desiring one. The Focus is fantastic and fun to drive but my first reaction to bounce around hits hard sometimes.
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      10-02-2012 10:22 AM #63
      Been driving for about 11 years now. And ive owned around 26 cars. Five of those cars were totaled in accidents that were not my fault. The rest were cheap little cars that i beat the hell out of and sold for a couple hundred and did all over again with a "new" car. I love cars and want to try and own as many as i can before i die, The only thing holding me back is money.
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      10-02-2012 10:23 AM #64
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      10-02-2012 10:24 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      I keep cars 6 months to a year.
      How does that work with new cars?
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      10-02-2012 10:25 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      Boredom. I drive a lot.

      To me a car is the only appliance that I get bored with. Computers, watches, guns, kitchen, tools, etc I keep for years upon years, but for some reason or another cars... I just end up resenting them or wanting something else.
      Is there a threshold (performance, looks, luxury, etc) above which you would not get bored?

      Or would you keep flipping cars even in that $50-100k range?

      Also, if you really get bored of the same machine so quickly, why have you owned 5 MKVIs?

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      10-02-2012 10:28 AM #67
      I've got it. I'm pretty much forced to keep my Focus (it's leased), but I'm planning on picking up an S2000 soon. Maybe that will cure me, or at least put it into remission.
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      10-02-2012 10:36 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      They have one of those for car-ADD people!?!?! I'd go check it out.

      I don't know that there is a specific one for carr A.D.D., and if I went to a general one, I feel like I'd be received like this:





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      10-02-2012 10:39 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by TooFitToQuit View Post
      I have zero interest in another Fit. I want an automatic next. Traffic sucks.
      I'm sure that Fit clutch is just brutal...

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      10-02-2012 10:49 AM #70
      I guess I only have a light case. My problem is, often, I never want to sell any of mine. That limits me. I never want to sell my MKIV GTi. The Subie is growing on me, I've only had it for 6 months. I'm already drooling after:

      A early Porsche 914
      A XJ or YJ to convert to TDI
      A 24V Dodge Ram 4x4

      I want them all.. and never want to sell them. Tons more cars I want too, those are just the ones i'm actually shopping for right now.
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      10-02-2012 10:51 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by patrickvr6 View Post
      I'm sure that Fit clutch is just brutal...
      Haha!

      Seriously though, I get it. I just love manuals too much to give it up. Especially as my only means of transportation.

      When I lived in Atlanta, I daily drove my 92 Camaro with the 5 speed, and that was a pretty tough clutch. It was worth it, though.

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      10-02-2012 11:02 AM #72
      OP, you have given a name to my affliction. I have always just referred to it as my "automotive wandering eye."
      I've had around 30 cars in 30 years of driving, usually two (or more) at a time. With only a couple of exceptions, I don't sell a car because I don't like it anymore, it's usually just that something newer and shinier comes along.
      Currently, I've got two fine cars in my driveway/garage. Both bought new, no problems with either, the RS was a bit of a "dream car" ordered before they were officially announced for the US. I'm in line at my MINI pusher, aka dealer, to get their first GP2 allocation around January to replace the 2011.
      And yet....I've had my Audi salesman looking for a suitable used R8 for the past 6 months or so, but the right one at the right price hasn't come along yet. I also found myself this past Sunday perusing the contents of the closed for the day local Porsche dealership. They had several late model CPO 911 variations that put a glimmer in my eye, or I even considered splurging for one fo the new 991's.
      One of my oldest and dearest friends told me that evening that "you like buying cars more than you like owning them, the thrill of the hunt." Maybe that's it, but I have gotten to drive some really cool stuff.
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      10-02-2012 11:15 AM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      Is there a threshold (performance, looks, luxury, etc) above which you would not get bored?

      Or would you keep flipping cars even in that $50-100k range?

      Also, if you really get bored of the same machine so quickly, why have you owned 5 MKVIs?
      I dont' know about him, but I know I'd keep flipping even in the million dollar range... lol! I like too many cars to own them all at once, so I own them sequentially, even if they are variations on the same car (like when I went through over 30 air cooled VWs, each one a different custom version).

      And no, buying so many doesn't keep you from owning a more expensive car that you might like better. For example, when I went through the air cooled VWs, I'd buy one for $100, fix it up and sell it, use the money to buy one or two more AND fix them up, so the money wasn't cumulative. It's not like I went through $50k of VWs, so I could have bought a $50k car instead, as each car paid for the next one. It's more like I bought 30 VWs for $2k total investment, if you see how I'm figuring it. They went sequentially so there was never more than the initial $2k put into it (and even then that's a fallacy as the money came from the sale of another car) and it was a closed system, with that $2k being recycled with each replacement purchase.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      10-02-2012 11:22 AM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by mtbscoTT View Post
      One of my oldest and dearest friends told me that evening that "you like buying cars more than you like owning them, the thrill of the hunt."
      That's a very nice, very charitable way of describing it.

      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      It's more like I bought 30 VWs for $2k total investment, if you see how I'm figuring it.
      I understand completely.

      A situation like yours, where the initial 'play money' is recycled and the hobby basically pays for itself, is basically what most fixer-upper-flipper guys are aiming for. I think few of them actually achieve it, though.

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      10-02-2012 11:31 AM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      I understand completely.

      A situation like yours, where the initial 'play money' is recycled and the hobby basically pays for itself, is basically what most fixer-upper-flipper guys are aiming for. I think few of them actually achieve it, though.
      Yeah, too often the "profit" from a fixer up flip is taken out of the system to pay for something else, and the hobby ceases to pay for itself. On the other end, you can move up the profitability ladder and move into more expensive hobby cars by doing it right if you have the room to turn it into a business (one car pays for two, those two pay for 4, those 4 pay for 8, etc and pretty soon they start generating a living wage of profit and you maintain a sizeable retail fleet).

      I can't turn it into a business, so I kept it at maintanance level for many years.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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