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      10-02-2012 02:07 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by eweu View Post
      Well I would certainly hope 3,000 dealerships could sell more cars than 600 dealerships.
      But remember, full volume Malibu production had not begun last month. Those numbers are only for EAssist and base 4 cylinder.

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      10-02-2012 03:15 PM #27
      Toyota Motor Sales Reports Increase In September Sales
      Camry Leads the Way with 38 Percent Increase

      TORRANCE, Calif., (Oct. 2, 2012) – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported September 2012 sales results of 171,910 units, an increase of 41.5 percent compared to the same period last year on both a daily selling rate (DSR) and a raw volume basis, unadjusted for 25 selling days in both September 2012 and in September 2011.

      The Toyota Division posted September total sales of 151,524 units, an increase of 42.3 percent on a DSR basis from September 2011. On a raw volume basis, Toyota Division sales were also up 42.3 percent from the year-ago month.

      http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases...ember+2012.htm

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      10-02-2012 03:16 PM #28
      American Honda Reports September Sales: Accord 56-Percent Gain Fuels Honda Sales Surge; Acura RDX Sales Up More Than 119 Percent


      TORRANCE, Calif., Oct. 2, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- American Honda today reported September 2012 U.S. sales of 117,211 units, an increase of 30.9 percent compared with September 2011. The Honda Division posted September 2012 sales of 102,845 units, an increase of 29.3 percent compared with September 2011. Acura's U.S. September sales of 14,366 units increased 43.5 percent compared with September 2011.

      http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...172328271.html

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      10-02-2012 03:17 PM #29
      Nissan North America Announces September Sales

      FRANKLIN, Tenn., Oct. 2, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) today reported September U.S. sales of 91,907 units versus 92,964 units a year earlier, down 1.1 percent. Nissan Division sales decreased 2.4 percent for the month at 82,462 units. Sales of Infiniti vehicles were up 11.4 percent over the prior year, to 9,445 units.

      http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...172318891.html

      Surprising for them to have a down month.

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      10-02-2012 03:19 PM #30
      Hyundai Motor America Reports Record September Sales


      - Seventh Straight Month Breaking the 60,000 Mark

      - Best-Ever September Sales

      - 25th Consecutive Year-Over-Year Monthly Sales Increase

      COSTA MESA, Calif., Oct. 2, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Hyundai Motor America wrapped up the third quarter of 2012 setting multiple sales records including a record 60,025 sales for the month of September. Sales were up 15 percent for the month and up 10 percent for the first nine months of the year versus 2011.

      "September was a very encouraging month for Hyundai as we avoided the traditional back-to-school sales decline and began to reap the benefits of a materially improved inventory situation on our core vehicle lines," said Dave Zuchowski, executive vice president of sales. "We're well positioned for a strong fourth quarter as sales of the newly launched Elantra GT, Elantra Coupe, the all-new Azera and all-new Santa Fe continued at a brisk pace. Our fourth quarter production plan is up nearly 20 percent on a year-over-year basis."

      The all-new Azera and the Elantra family saw sales gains of a remarkable 1028 percent and 27 percent, respectively, over last September. The Tucson saw sales gains of 23 percent over the same period a year ago, and Veloster, the three-door coupe now available in both turbo and non-turbo models, continues to impress with a sales gain of 262 percent. Hyundai fleet sales and mix remained low at a nine percent mix for the month and year-to-date, among the lowest in the industry.

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      10-02-2012 03:22 PM #31
      Kia Motors America Records Best Third Quarter And 25th Consecutive Monthly Sales Record In September


      Annual Sales Up 18.4 Percent for the Fastest-Growing Car Company in the U.S. Over the Last Five Years [1]

      IRVINE, Calif., Oct. 2, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Kia Motors America (KMA) is the fastest growing car company in the United States and the brand's unprecedented momentum reached new highs in September, achieving a record third quarter and the 25th consecutive month of record sales, reaching 48,105 units, a 35.1-percent increase over the same period in 2011. September once again saw KMA's U.S.-built* vehicles take the top sales honors. The Optima midsize sedan sold 14,304 units and the Sorento CUV enjoyed sales of 10,066 vehicles. The Soul accounted for 9,467 units sold, bolstered by the recent launch of the "Bringing Down the House" advertising campaign featuring the music-loving Kia hamsters and the dance anthem "In My Mind" (Axwell remix).

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      10-02-2012 03:24 PM #32
      Mitsubishi Motors Reports Record Outlander Sport Sales


      CYPRESS, Calif., Oct. 2, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Mitsubishi Motors North America (MMNA) today reported September sales of the Outlander Sport that marked the highest total for a month in the two years the fuel-efficient crossover has been on the market.

      Outlander Sport sales were 2,253 for the month, an increase of 49.0 percent compared to September 2011. The previous record monthly sales for Outlander Sport were 1,618 in March of this year.

      "The Outlander Sport's combination of fuel-efficiency, performance, and style, as highlighted in the 'Unpretentious' Outlander Sport marketing campaign, is obviously resonating with customers," said MMNA President & CEO Yoichi Yokozawa.

      Outlander Sport continues to be Mitsubishi's top seller in the U.S. and began production in Normal, Illinois in July.

      Overall Mitsubishi sales were 4,806 units, down 17.2 percent compared to September 2011. "Comparisons to last year's total sales are still being slightly affected by some models that ended their production last year," Yokozawa added. "Obviously, this effect will have a diminishing impact over the next few months."

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      10-02-2012 03:44 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by classicjetta View Post
      Mitsubishi Motors Reports Record Outlander Sport Sales
      The sign of a great sales month for a brand: The headline of your monthly sales report highlights the success of one model and 80% of the actual press release does nothing but talk about that model.
      Everybody's dying, bitch; let's get you some fruit.

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      10-02-2012 03:47 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by classicjetta View Post
      Overall Mitsubishi sales were 4,806 units
      I can't wrap my head around the economics here. How does that work out on any balance sheet?

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      10-02-2012 03:50 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by eweu View Post
      I can't wrap my head around the economics here. How does that work out on any balance sheet?
      Negative profit

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      10-02-2012 04:27 PM #36
      Mainstream C-segment and D-segment car rankings (I'll let somebody else do the other segments...):

      Camry 34,252
      Accord 29,182
      Altima 24,448
      Sonata 17,332
      Optima 14,304
      Fusion 12,300
      Malibu 11,188
      200 9,881
      Passat 9,500
      Avenger 8,716
      Legacy 4,124
      6 1,403

      Cruze 25,787
      Corolla/Matrix 23,026
      Civic 21,546
      Focus 19,736
      Elantra 18,305
      Jetta 14,750
      3 14,031
      Sentra 9,345
      Forte 6,912
      Impreza 6,071 (incl. WRX)
      Dart 5,235

      Cruze had its second blockbuster month in a row. Malibu not so much...I'll give it through the end of the calendar year before I'm ready to use the "F" word. The Fusion is in the middle of the 2012/13 changeover, so this month's number probably means nothing for the long term.

      The Dart is still struggling...I'll give Chrysler some slack there, because they were starting from zero, rather than replacing an existing, successful model. Part of the problem may also be that the Avenger is a screaming deal right now. People may be going in to look at a Dart, seeing that the Avenger is actually cheaper, and buying that instead.

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      10-02-2012 04:30 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      I've never heard anything bad about the last generation Malibu's quality. If it is significantly worse than a Passat of similar vintage, please pass some links that support this.
      My grandpa has a '09 Malibu 2.4 and a '08 Malibu Maxx 3.5. They've been great.

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      10-02-2012 04:34 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by rimtrim View Post
      Mainstream C-segment and D-segment car rankings (I'll let somebody else do the other segments...):

      Camry 34,252
      Accord 29,182
      Altima 24,448
      Sonata 17,332
      Optima 14,304
      Fusion 12,300
      Malibu 11,188
      200 9,881
      Passat 9,500
      Avenger 8,716
      Legacy 4,124
      6 1,403

      Cruze 25,787
      Corolla/Matrix 23,026
      Civic 21,546
      Focus 19,736
      Elantra 18,305
      Jetta 14,750
      3 14,031
      Sentra 9,345
      Forte 6,912
      Impreza 6,071 (incl. WRX)
      Dart 5,235

      Cruze had its second blockbuster month in a row. Malibu not so much...I'll give it through the end of the calendar year before I'm ready to use the "F" word. The Fusion is in the middle of the 2012/13 changeover, so this month's number probably means nothing for the long term.

      The Dart is still struggling...I'll give Chrysler some slack there, because they were starting from zero, rather than replacing an existing, successful model. Part of the problem may also be that the Avenger is a screaming deal right now. People may be going in to look at a Dart, seeing that the Avenger is actually cheaper, and buying that instead.

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      According to a post on GMI, Chevy only built 18K Malibus last month. If true, it sounds like they are still ramping up to producing the non-eAssist models. So, I'd definitely hold off on declaring it dead.

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      10-02-2012 04:34 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by rimtrim View Post
      Camry 34,252
      Accord 29,182
      Altima 24,448
      Sonata 17,332
      Optima 14,304
      Fusion 12,300
      Malibu 11,188
      200 9,881
      Passat 9,500
      Avenger 8,716
      Legacy 4,124
      6 1,403
      I am surprised the 200 and Avenger are selling so well.

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      10-02-2012 04:37 PM #40
      Not surprised about the 200 but the Avenger yes, I am surprised.

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      10-02-2012 04:43 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      According to a post on GMI, Chevy only built 18K Malibus last month. If true, it sounds like they are still ramping up to producing the non-eAssist models. So, I'd definitely hold off on declaring it dead.
      Rather than production figures, I like to use cars.com to see lot inventory. That gives a better idea of whether something is moving or sitting. It seems like the vast majority of new cars on retail lots in the US are listed on cars.com, and they have good search tools. You can even narrow down by trim level and how long cars have been listed, so you can see which trims are moving off the lots faster.

      Currently they show about 33K Malibus in stock nationally (mostly '13s, some '12s left). So, there's plenty of supply. By contrast, there are about 11K Fusions in stock, which means that it's more plausible to argue that the Fusion's number was caused by lack of inventory.

      But, I'll give GM a few more months to get their act together. I don't think the Malibu is a fundamentally bad vehicle...it may not be best-in-class, but it should be sellable.

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      10-02-2012 04:47 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by PlatinumGLS View Post
      I am surprised the 200 and Avenger are selling so well.
      They have a high fleet percent, but I think they're now doing decent retail too. They key is they're such a great deal. A basic Avenger (decently equipped) is under $20K on the sticker. A V6 is like $23K. You can't get a V6 anything else for anywhere near that cheap.

      I really like the 200. If I trusted Chrysler powertrains, I'd kind of want one. Where else can you get a midsize sedan that looks almost like a luxury car, for like $19K?

      I'll be interested to see what they do with the replacements for these models. I imagine they're going to do a substantial price hike to get in line with the rest of the segment. If they do that, the cars are going to have to be really good.

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    18. 10-02-2012 06:14 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      VOLKSWAGEN REPORTS A 34.4 PERCENT SALES INCREASE IN SEPTEMBER

      - Best September since 1972 with 36,339 units sold and a 37.2 percent increase year-to-date -
      • 25 consecutive months of year-on-year growth
      • Best September ever for Passat and Tiguan with 9,500 and 2,202 units sold, respectively
      • Best September for Beetle since 2003
      • Best September for Golf since 2007
      • Jetta Sedan achieved sales of 12,584 units
      • High-mileage, clean diesel TDI models account for 23.9 percent of sales in September.

      http://media.vw.com/pressrelease/123...ease-september
      looking at their monthly and yearly numbers from 2012 and 2011 , shows that virtually all of their gains come from the Passat and the new Beetle. if it weren't for these two product lines, VW would actually be down for the year YTD from 2011, so their overall product lineup outside of the Passat and Beetle are doing worse as a whole. over the next several months, their sales percentage increases will drop to the single digits or lower.

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      10-02-2012 06:55 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by classicjetta View Post
      Overall Mitsubishi sales were 4,806 units, down 17.2 percent compared to September 2011.
      Mitsubishi remains on death watch for the US market. However they're still looking down on the other little automaker from Japan:

      http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...172318601.html

      Quote Originally Posted by PR Newswire
      BREA, Calif., Oct. 2, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- American Suzuki Motor Corporation (ASMC) today reported September 2012 sales of 1,921 units. SX4 sales were up 1% year over year and continue to lead sales with a 2% year to date sales increase.

      The Brea, Calif.-based Automotive Operations of American Suzuki Motor Corporation was founded in 1963 by parent company Suzuki Motor Corporation (SMC) and currently markets its vehicles in the United States through a network of automotive dealerships and numerous other motorcycle, ATV and marine distributors. With global headquarters in Hamamatsu, Japan, SMC is a diversified worldwide automobile, motorcycle and outboard motor manufacturer. Founded in 1909 and incorporated in 1920, SMC has operations in 201 countries and regions. For more information, visit www.media.suzukiauto.com.

      SOURCE American Suzuki Motor Corporation

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      That works out to 1.28 Suzukis sold per US state, per day in September.

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      10-02-2012 08:00 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by rimtrim View Post

      The Dart is still struggling...I'll give Chrysler some slack there, because they were starting from zero, rather than replacing an existing, successful model. Part of the problem may also be that the Avenger is a screaming deal right now. People may be going in to look at a Dart, seeing that the Avenger is actually cheaper, and buying that instead.

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    21. 10-02-2012 08:23 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      I wasn't talking about the last gen, I was talking about this thing. The Taurus of the era was equally bland. Terrible cars which sold well because many people in that segment just don't care.

      My brother-in-law had one of these and drove the crap out of it.
      It wasn't really a bad car-reliable, cheap, decent mileage-it was more of an unremarkable, boring and utterly forgettable appliance. A decent appliance, but an appliance.
      My wife drives an 05 Malibu, more of the same, and fine for her since she views cars as yep, appliances. If her dad hadn't been a lifelong GM employee, she'd probably drive a Camry.

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      10-02-2012 08:50 PM #47
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      10-02-2012 10:52 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      That works out to 1.28 Suzukis sold per US state, per day in September.


      I'll make a huge SWAG and say Suzuki has 300 dealers in the US (is that even close?). That means just over one car per week sold per dealer. Wow.

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      10-03-2012 01:27 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by eweu View Post
      I'll make a huge SWAG and say Suzuki has 300 dealers in the US (is that even close?). That means just over one car per week sold per dealer. Wow.
      That makes it sound even more sad. They must be staying alive by partnership alone. In other words, it's a Suzuki/Mazda/Ford dealer that makes money off service and used car sales of all makes/models. Clearly there's no way any standalone Suzuki dealer could stay in business with that kind of weak sales rate. I tried to look up Suzuki dealers using their website dealer locator but it doesn't return any results. If that's not a bad omen, I don't know what is.

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      10-03-2012 03:16 AM #50
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      I'm not going to defend that car, but were any family sedans particularly exciting in the late 1990s? Even GM made better midsizers back then (Olds Alero)!
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