There is a gas station/post office near my house, i think they need to do more of that type of service rather than stand alone post offices. If you are rural, you get a PO box, no more delivery (exceptions for disabled), sorry. Also, the gas/PO is worked by the gas station people, not actual post office employees. So there is no union or anything. I'm not sure how it works financially, but the place is always busy with people buying beer, getting gas, and mailing stuff.
Last edited by A.Wilder; 10-03-2012 at 06:53 AM.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.
It costs more money to get mail to a rural address. So what? Providing infrastructure for ALL of our citizens is what a government SHOULD do. Let's, once and for all, drop this stupid and insulting notion that government services should be run on a strict profit model.
The USPS is actually a model in the rest of the world for postal efficiency and quality of service. Nobody realizes just how good it is to get your stamped envelope and everyone else's across the country in a couple of days for less than a dollar. And get it back to you if the address doesn't exist.
Put stamps and an address on a rose and it'll get where you want it.
This crisis is manufactured by people won don't want government to work, and have sabotaged it to prove a point.
Last edited by Robstr; 10-03-2012 at 09:40 AM.
All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.
USPS works fine. I used to ship rare/vintage vinyl all over the globe, and my success rate with the Postal Service was no different than with FedEx or UPS, and they were more convenient and offered more options.
Frankly, anyone who says USPS needs to close doesn't deserve to live in a civilized country.
1 - Close all of the small town post offices and only have a few big ones for each county. There's 3 one man post offices within 6 miles of my house - the only thing they do is open the doors for all the old weirdos who have post office boxes and come in to chit chat the morning away.
2 - Stop delivering on saturday or monday - we don't need to get our mail 6 days a week.
3 - They need to get serious about customer service for commercial customers. My company tried to give them about 100 small packages a day a few years ago and it was a total disaster. There were a few days they forgot to make the pickup.
Females who don't give head end up as crazy cat ladies.
I do generally have good results shipping all my ebay crap with usps priority. They've only lost 1 thing in 11 years and it did turn up after a few weeks. And it was my fault for using a stupid packing method.
Females who don't give head end up as crazy cat ladies.
On the topic of Fedex or UPS picking up the slack... Don't bet on it. Neither of them are interested in getting into that mess, and if they were, you better prepare for $5 stamps. May not be a big deal for you... But for companies who send a lot of mail, that is quite damaging to business.
My company spends about $15k a month on letter postage as it sits right now. We also can't get around sending mail, we are a health insurance admin, and mail is just one of those things that is not going away anytime soon in our industry. You want UPS/Fedex to pick up letter delivery for $5 a pop? Cool, hope you're ready for a major increase in your health insurance premiums... and that's just one example.
The USPS, and the services they provide are a lot more important to our society than junk mail.
Last edited by SOAR; 10-03-2012 at 06:48 PM.
[quote} Originally Posted by A.Wilder
There is a gas station/post office near my house, i think they need to do more of that type of service rather than stand alone post offices. If you are rural, you get a PO box, no more delivery (exceptions for disabled), sorry.That's already how it's done. Fyi, other services you city folk take for granted are different in rural small towns too. [/quote]
I always plug in USBs right the first time.
I look at USPS a lot like I look at Amtrak. Basically, they end up with the worst of both public and private enterprise. We expect them to provide utility to everyone but don't back them up and expect them to turn a profit. They're both also often cited as sources of government waste, but let them take steps to become more effective and there's uproar.
Anyway, I'm less upset about the postal service than I am about the complete lack of government support of rail infrastructure. Or how a train ride from New York to DC costs as much as a flight even though I'm sure the true cost is vastly different.
Rail infrastructure is an interesting topic. Working in an industry (think third party logistics, but...not really) that grew side by side with the growth of freight rail, I keep tabs on the rail industry as it's a solid indicator of economic health.
The private freight rail industry funds a large portion of infrastructure improvement on its own and has done so for decades; they've dumped half a trillion into the rails since '80. Rail and intermodal transportation grows consistently month over month and eats away at trucking's admittedly large share of the freight pie.
Modern rail is largely the modern day bastion of purely capitalist industry while passenger is the subsidized redheaded stepchild. IMO if passenger rail were economically viable in the U.S., it would have a sustainable level of private investment by now. The government doesn't have much incentive to subsidize rail any more than it already is. Doesn't mean I think they shouldn't, though.
Also, the rail lobby can kiss my ass.
Last edited by FBMphil; 10-03-2012 at 08:21 PM. Reason: Double negatives
But I digress.
they need to make some changes that a private sector company would make...including but not limited to:
eliminating or renegotiating their relationship with public sector unions
reducing service days from 6 to 5 per week
eliminating some locations that serve only small numbers of individuals...perhaps sub-letting services to other corporate locations, like UPS stores and Fedex stores to make up slack
refocus on delivering stamped and metered mail
better marketing of their ready post and flat rate box services
cutting the overall number of employees (doubly possible with cutting back on union relationships and reducing days of service)
streamline rules and regs so average people can more accurately know what postage costs and not have stand in line waiting for one employee to solve 10 peoples problems
Thanks for openly admitting what your real agenda is: Union busting.
The rest of your suggestions demonstrate that you don't really know what the P.O. is about, and doesn't take into account THE single most important factor, that the USPS was sabotaged to fail by the GOP.
seriously dude, if suggesting reexamination of the biggest expense to a failing company or business is "union busting," you're just ignoring reality. if you can't even look at the contracts, how many employees you have, what your effectiveness is, what those employees are doing, what they are getting paid, how is the union relations effecting the ability to do their job, etc. then the post office is doomed to survive as long as congress will fund their deficits.
and please, when was the USPS sabotaged to fail by the republican party? you do realize that the post office is a constitutionally mandated organization (of which the president is in charge of)?
what do big companies do when they are about to go bankrupt...they renegotiate their contractual relationship with employees. reduce benefits, reduce salaries, reduce staff, to make sure the majority keep their jobs and the doors stay open. since the post office is union staffed, then the relationship between employee (union) and the usps needs to be what is looked at. that isn't union busting...its a fact of negotiating within a union contract.
...eliminating or renegotiating their relationship with public sector unions...
The GOP and their supporters are no supporters of Unions, correct? It's a secret hiding in plain sight.
Eliminate the mandate, and the Post Office is profitable.
Nice trick, though, to break something on purpose, then gain political points with the gullible by pointing out it's broken.
Seriously though, this is a relative example of the problem this country faces. This government agency is failing. Low in customer satisfaction and probably the last of your choices when you HAVE to have something delivered on time. Yet, they can't manage to cut enough of their costs to control their debt. And to top it off, when they manage to put a proposal forward that might stave off the bleeding (like no more Saturday delivery) everyone throws a sh!t fit "Oh, how will we survive? I need my mail that *might* be delivered on the weekend".