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    Thread: I'm shopping for a VW: 08 GTi vs R32

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      10-02-2012 06:58 PM #1
      What will I be missing out on if I pass on a R32 and get the less expensive GTi? I talked to APR today, the chip brings the HP on the 2.0 to mid 200s, so other than the awd, what's the advantage?
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      10-02-2012 07:25 PM #3
      AWD and sound. Feels more stable.

      Objective take the GTI unless you need or want AWD. Subjective for me the GTI wasn't even in the top 5 ( R32 feels more like a GT versus a hooligan car)

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      10-02-2012 07:30 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by ourlee View Post
      What will I be missing out on if I pass on a R32 and get the less expensive GTi? I talked to APR today, the chip brings the HP on the 2.0 to mid 200s, so other than the awd, what's the advantage?
      thanks.
      I owned a 2007 GTI and now have a 2008 R32. Besides the obvious AWD and VR6, there are a few other little things you miss out on if you get a GTI:

      -Auto headlights
      -Auto wipers
      -Auto dimming rear view mirror

      I must say, the R32 power delivery is much nicer than the 2.0T, though it feels just about as quick. You can tell the R is heavier, just by how it handles, but the fun of blasting out of a corner early and heavy on the throttle is

      I suppose this all comes down to how much the price difference is on the cars you're looking at, as well as personal preference.

      EDIT - I see you're in Jersey. Will this be your DD? Snow/rain + AWD = R32 as my final decision.

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      10-02-2012 08:42 PM #5
      As everyone mentioned...main thing is AWD and the VR6. Those two things make a huge difference in everyday driving to me though. What will you be missing if you get the R32? Option for manual and potential for easy modding/big power...but that power will only be put down to the front wheels and the GTi already comes close to the limit of what is really useable in a FWD car.

      When we went shopping for our R32, we looked at MKVI GTIs and TDI's but it was a no-brainer to us...Wanted automatic transmission, don't really care about gas mileage (the advantage of TDI) and didn't see the value in paying around the same price for a GTI compared to an R32.

      I had a chance to drive my friend's Stage 2+ MKV GTI with PSS10's for a while and although I liked having boost, I was very happy to get back into my stock R32 and there is no way I would ever consider trading it for the setup he had.
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      10-02-2012 10:40 PM #6
      You're gonna spend more on gas.

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      10-02-2012 10:46 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by oidoglr View Post
      You're gonna spend more on gas.
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      10-02-2012 10:53 PM #8
      ^ that's for damn sure!

      i look at the gas pump and..

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      10-03-2012 01:00 PM #9
      Hilarious

    10. 10-03-2012 01:46 PM #10
      The R32 is a cooler car.

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      10-03-2012 01:50 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Howboutcha C'mon View Post
      The R32 is a cooler car.
      jesus , understatement much?

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      10-03-2012 01:51 PM #12
      The question you should be asking yourself is not GTI vs R32 - it's R32 vs Audi A3 3.2. Pretty much the same car from a drivetrain engine POV. I'm helping a friend search for one or the other right now and was surprised to see that the A3s haven't held their value as well as the R32s and tend to be a little less expensive for the same miles.

      VR6 = no replacement for displacement :-)
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      10-03-2012 02:04 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by ceese View Post
      The question you should be asking yourself is not GTI vs R32 - it's R32 vs Audi A3 3.2. Pretty much the same car from a drivetrain engine POV. I'm helping a friend search for one or the other right now and was surprised to see that the A3s haven't held their value as well as the R32s and tend to be a little less expensive for the same miles.

      VR6 = no replacement for displacement :-)
      I do like the A3 , particularly CleanA3's specimen , however it just doesn't have the allure of the R32.

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      10-03-2012 02:33 PM #14
      OP- have you driven both, yet? I owned a MKV GTI prior to picking up my R32. Both are great cars and I think this thread already outlines most of the key differences between the two.

      See if you can't arrange back-to-back drives in each - it will be the best way to get the overall feel for both / decide which best fits your own preferences


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      10-03-2012 02:38 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by ourlee View Post
      What will I be missing out on if I pass on a R32 and get the less expensive GTi? I talked to APR today, the chip brings the HP on the 2.0 to mid 200s, so other than the awd, what's the advantage?
      thanks.
      My wife has an 08 GTI. I have an 08 R32.

      What do I wish my R32 has that my wifes GTI has?? 4 doors. Thats it.

      Its amazing how much better the R32 feels on the highway and onramps ect.

      I never have to worry about wheel spin or anything with the awd.

      I LOVE the GTI but the R32 is just a bit better in every category minus MPG.

      Stock to stock though I would say the DSG and 2.0T setup does feel a bit smoother then the setup in the R32.

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      10-03-2012 03:48 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by sixteen10 View Post
      I do like the A3 , particularly CleanA3's specimen , however it just doesn't have the allure of the R32.
      If it wasn't an A3 for me it would have been an 08 gray R32 or an S4 Avant - There are things I like about both cars - six of one half dozen of the other. You R32 guys tend to focus more on performance mods than the A3 forum guys do which is why I like to visit.

      I'm not familiar with CleanA3's car.

      The GTI is a nice car - more affordable to mod on the initial mods but the R32 and VR6 cars in general are more fun to drive in my opinion.
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      10-03-2012 07:38 PM #17
      you will miss the opportunity to have this conversation...
      Hey is that a gti?
      No its an r32....
      oh... is it fast?
      nope hahahaha

      But yea you defiantly get more car and driving it everyday thats what i wanted compared to the gti,
      i went to the dealer to test drive a 08 gti dsg and after test driving both the r there was no way i could pass up on it. Good luck with the decision

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      10-03-2012 07:57 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by ceese View Post
      The question you should be asking yourself is not GTI vs R32 - it's R32 vs Audi A3 3.2. Pretty much the same car from a drivetrain engine POV. I'm helping a friend search for one or the other right now and was surprised to see that the A3s haven't held their value as well as the R32s and tend to be a little less expensive for the same miles.

      VR6 = no replacement for displacement :-)
      like the A3s, but as the R is my daily driver, i had to take back seat room into account due to having to drive two kids around. the R has ALOT more room in back; i immediately saw this fact when a 6'7" salesman fit in the back of the R just fine. this is the case even w/ two doors.

      shark ~

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      10-03-2012 08:31 PM #19
      Closed > just get the one YOU like more

    20. 10-03-2012 10:54 PM #20
      I owned a '06 GTI (2door w/ DSG) for 3 years, and just bought a '08 TR R32 (for not much less than a new GTI). The GTI is a nice car, but the way the R32 accelerates out of tight corners (and the VR6 sound) are on a different level, if you can live with the sorry gas mileage...

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      10-03-2012 11:36 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by rethnug View Post
      I owned a '06 GTI (2door w/ DSG) for 3 years, and just bought a '08 TR R32 (for not much less than a new GTI). The GTI is a nice car, but the way the R32 accelerates out of tight corners (and the VR6 sound) are on a different level, if you can live with the sorry gas mileage...
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      10-04-2012 12:01 AM #22
      it never dawned on me this would get bad gas mileage. def. a deal breaker for me. now i'm leaning toward building a GTD out of a 6 speed tdi MVl.

      thx for the replies guys, it helped very much.

      rick

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      10-04-2012 12:11 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by ourlee View Post
      it never dawned on me this would get bad gas mileage. def. a deal breaker for me. now i'm leaning toward building a GTD out of a 6 speed tdi MVl.

      thx for the replies guys, it helped very much.

      rick
      It's not a question of it getting bad gas mileage it's that the GTI gets better and the 2.0T guys tend to point out that fact every chance they get.
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    24. 10-04-2012 01:22 AM #24
      The price of gasoline is only heading uphill from here - this is a great time to enjoy driving something that sucks it down and shoots you forward

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      10-04-2012 08:35 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by ourlee View Post
      it never dawned on me this would get bad gas mileage. def. a deal breaker for me. now i'm leaning toward building a GTD out of a 6 speed tdi MVl.

      thx for the replies guys, it helped very much.

      rick
      An MK6 TDI with mods will cost how much?

      Possibly negating the savings on gas, still wont match the R in performance, and still will be fwd?

      Do you drive a lot?

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