Golf R Stage 3 Testing...

[Arin@APR]

UK Golf R DSG
APR Stage 3
APR HPFP
APR Intercooler
APR RSC Exhaust
Shell V Power Pump Fuel
Stock Injectors
Stock DSG

[rjlangle]

UK Golf R DSG
APR Stage 3
APR HPFP
APR Intercooler
APR RSC Exhaust
Shell V Power Pump Fuel
Stock Injectors
Stock DSG

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Wow, Just wow.

[myawd]

Omg !!!! Wonder what a manual would run here in the states

[webcrawlr]

Omg !!!! Wonder what a manual would run here in the states

Add five seconds.

Really though, looking forward to hearing more about the stg3 offering here in the us. Also looking forward to more info on the FSI head work.

[myawd]

Add five seconds.

Really though, looking forward to hearing more about the stg3 offering here in the us. Also looking forward to more info on the FSI head work.

Lmao

[JasonN]

''Just when I thought I was done THEY (APR) pull me back in''

[jsausley]

Published 0-100 MPH times on a Nissan GT-R are between 7.9 and 8.5 seconds.

I'd say that's pretty impressive. to APR.

[stifun]

That is a great achievement... but we still don't get those results here in the States being a manual car. hahahaha

[ZEV]

what are your thoughts about suspension versus engine mods.. which would u do first..

APR coilovers and sway bars i think would reduce body roll and quicker launches.. would u do that after flashing the ECU? OR would u go ahead and get the fuel pump and the intake and exhaust...

thanks..

see you in Auburn

[Blatman]

Awesome time there.

I haven't run v-max on my car yet with my remapped dsg launching at 5k should be even quicker!


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[watsonj0]

I am confused why you would post European stage three #'s but do not post the numbers for the Stage three 3 kit you have installed on Scottisha's car. Lets see some USA model stage 3 kit performance figures Dyno charts ext...............

[CALICSGR]

I am confused why you would post European stage three #'s but do not post the numbers for the Stage three 3 kit you have installed on Scottisha's car. Lets see some USA model stage 3 kit performance figures Dyno charts ext...............

Yeah, seriously. We're not living in Europe.

[Heretic:GTI]

How about some official stage 2 and stage 2+ dynos...
It's said info coming soon for quite some time. I would rather see info that is more in line with what most people are going to do as opposed to some euro dsg stuff that has nothing for me...

[DaLeadBull]

Yeah, seriously. We're not living in Europe.

Maybe because this is not a US only forum?

How conceited are we?

[ThatVdub]

How conceited are we?

Maybe because we're modestly lacking DSG?

[watsonj0]

Maybe because this is not a US only forum?

How conceited are we?

Yea OK how about posting non DSG stats then

[Arin@APR]

APR just flashed my ECU... what a difference.. wow..

Can you list in succession what mods i should do from now to stage 3?

I was thinking carbinaro intake and fuel pump.. then what?

and i want the coilovers too.. and the sway bars..

I plan on getting as much stuff as i can before the sale ends on oct 24..

do you guys do anything for people that buy more gear to help them out? $$$?

Here is the route I would personally take:


APR Stage 1 ECU
APR HPFP & Free Stage 1+ ECU Upgrade
VWR Intake System
APR RSC TBE & Free Stage 2+ ECU Upgrade
APR Intercooler

what are your thoughts about suspension versus engine mods.. which would u do first..

APR coilovers and sway bars i think would reduce body roll and quicker launches.. would u do that after flashing the ECU? OR would u go ahead and get the fuel pump and the intake and exhaust...

thanks..

see you in Auburn

I would start with the performance modifications and then head on over to the suspension mods.

[Arin@APR]

Yea OK how about posting non DSG stats then

I'll post stats when I have them.

[R201UP]

Does APR recommend uprated con-Rods, or other internals for stage 3? I assume clutch is a must as well

[jsausley]

Does APR recommend uprated con-Rods, or other internals for stage 3? I assume clutch is a must as well

Pretty sure no internals will be necessary for the Stage 3 kit, that would be Stage 4 right? Like the MaxR? I know they didn't do internals on Scottisha's car.

Definitely upgrade the clutch though. You're already pushing the limits at Stage 2+ so Stage 3 will definitely exceed what the stock clutch is capable of holding.

[John@Roc-Euro]

Maybe because we're modestly lacking DSG?

Turns out that IS stage 3. Upgrading to DSG

[Arin@APR]

Does APR recommend uprated con-Rods, or other internals for stage 3? I assume clutch is a must as well

Uprated connecting rods are always a plus but I don't feel they are necessary for our 93 octane file.

[ThatVdub]

Turns out that IS stage 3. Upgrading to DSG

I was really considering doing the same thing recently, to make this auto for the wife, instead
of getting rid of the R32 and buying her another car. Should have done it, would have saved
me a lot of $$$ and would have two R's today. Oh well... Wonder how much would it cost. HPA
can do it, anyone on the east coast can do it? Anyone in the USA done it yet? Skela did it with his
MK4 R32.

[watsonj0]

I was really considering doing the same thing recently, to make this auto for the wife, instead
of getting rid of the R32 and buying her another car. Should have done it, would have saved
me a lot of $$$ and would have two R's today. Oh well... Wonder how much would it cost. HPA
can do it, anyone on the east coast can do it? Anyone in the USA done it yet? Skela did it with his
MK4 R32.

I got a quote for DSG conversion from HPA $15,000 USD

[scottisha]

Pretty sure no internals will be necessary for the Stage 3 kit, that would be Stage 4 right? Like the MaxR? I know they didn't do internals on Scottisha's car.

Definitely upgrade the clutch though. You're already pushing the limits at Stage 2+ so Stage 3 will definitely exceed what the stock clutch is capable of holding.

I have not done internals. I've been running the 100 octane "beta" file for nearly 3 weeks.
I did dyno my car before and after, on a Mustang all wheel dyno, and the 100 octane file made a big gain.
Once APR releases all the info on their US version Stage 3 kit, and I get the production file, I'll share my results. I think you guys would be impressed.

Personally, although there are some guys putting down some great numbers with the K04, I knew I wanted a bit more. I wanted to be at a minimum of 400 crank hp in this car, with the possibility of making 500hp depending on how much more I was willing to do. Even though there are some decent Stage 2/2+ cars out there, I knew I wouldn't be able to make the numbers I wanted, without a turbo upgrade.

I would love to make a video along side a Stage 2+ Golf R, so you guys can see the difference as well as see the spooling of the GTX2867R turbo....I'm not 100% certain, but I think it spools nearly as quick as the K04.

using this calculator, you can get a good idea of what kind of hp it takes to get a car to trap 117mph in the 1/4 mile.
http://www.ajdesigner.com/fl_horsepo...trap_speed.php

I figured probably 3620lbs, with me in the car.

Scott

[scottisha]

I got a quote for DSG conversion from HPA $15,000 USD

I can see a company doing this for marketing and promotion, but for the life of me could never rationalize doing it, just to have a DSG.

I looked at the MKV R32 several times from 2008 to 2010 and could never pull the trigger, because I wanted a manual. I wanted the strength and reliability of the manual and a more direct connection with the car. I think I would swap in a turbo VR6 engine before swapping in a DSG.
I'm not hating on the DSG, it's a work of art; however, it's a very sensitive work of art and it's very expensive.
A local MkVI GTI owner was quoted $14k to replace his DSG, when the VWOA refused to warranty it, due to the mods he had on his car. That's over half the value of his car.
And the worst part was the fact that the DSG was malfunctioning in similar ways to others that were on non-modded cars.

Scott

[YoungMedic]

I looked at the MKV R32 several times from 2008 to 2010 and could never pull the trigger, because I wanted a manual. I wanted the strength and reliability of the manual and a more direct connection with the car. I think I would swap in a turbo VR6 engine before swapping in a DSG.

Scott

took the words right out of my mouth. Alot of people talked **** when the MKV came out without a manual option, VW listened, so I pulled the trigger, and no regrets, I love every bit of this car

[12vdubber]

Here is the route I would personally take:


APR Stage 1 ECU
APR HPFP & Free Stage 1+ ECU Upgrade
VWR Intake System
APR RSC TBE & Free Stage 2+ ECU Upgrade
APR Intercooler

I think it's important to note that the intake and the downpipe WON'T work with the stage 3 kit.
This is unfortunate but understandable.

Depending on how much time you plan to take, spacing out mods before a turbo upgrade, it may or may not be worth it to you to have a satge 2+ car for x amount of time before moving up to stage 3. You can certainly sell your unused parts to someone else. But, obviously you will lose some $$, and spend more in the long run.

The CHEAPEST route would be to go directly from stock to stage 3. That way you don't lose money on those parts which are no longer needed. I also think you get a "deal" on the HPFP if purchasing in combination with the turbo kit, don't you?

This is kind of the delima I'm in right now... not sure if I want, or could even swing, a BT Golf R a couple years from now... and I don't want to waste money. So I'm sitting tight on any other power mods for now.

[Lamfalus]

A "Type R" would be some form of Honda (Civic, Integra, etc.), you own a VW "Golf R". That is all.

[ThatVdub]

I can see a company doing this for marketing and promotion, but for the life of me could never rationalize doing it, just to have a DSG.

I looked at the MKV R32 several times from 2008 to 2010 and could never pull the trigger, because I wanted a manual. I wanted the strength and reliability of the manual and a more direct connection with the car. I think I would swap in a turbo VR6 engine before swapping in a DSG.
I'm not hating on the DSG, it's a work of art; however, it's a very sensitive work of art and it's very expensive.

I am a manual man, no way would I have it otherwise. When the MK5 R32 came out, I could
never get myself to trade the MK4 R32 for it. The DSG idea was for the wife, not me. I no
longer have the R32 and this took it's place (financial reasons, not preference) as my ride,
so it's staying manual. DSG is great for 0-60, 1/4 miles, and traffic, but the manual allows me
to stay connected to my car, I don't need to pick up a big gulp or send a text message while
running down the track, pfft.... that is so boring. lol...

[scottisha]

I think it's important to note that the intake and the downpipe WON'T work with the stage 3 kit.
This is unfortunate but understandable.

Depending on how much time you plan to take, spacing out mods before a turbo upgrade, it may or may not be worth it to you to have a satge 2+ car for x amount of time before moving up to stage 3. You can certainly sell your unused parts to someone else. But, obviously you will lose some $$, and spend more in the long run.

The CHEAPEST route would be to go directly from stock to stage 3. That way you don't lose money on those parts which are no longer needed. I also think you get a "deal" on the HPFP if purchasing in combination with the turbo kit, don't you?

This is kind of the delima I'm in right now... not sure if I want, or could even swing, a BT Golf R a couple years from now... and I don't want to waste money. So I'm sitting tight on any other power mods for now.

Exactly why I stopped at Stage 1+. I knew I was going stage 3 as soon as APR let me, so stopped where I thought made the most sense.

Scott

[ThatVdub]

Yes, someone stage 2+ wanting to go stage 3, sell me your APR downpipe, since I am sticking to
stage 2+ for at least a year...

[watsonj0]

took the words right out of my mouth. Alot of people talked **** when the MKV came out without a manual option, VW listened, so I pulled the trigger, and no regrets, I love every bit of this car

I just don't understand why it wasn't available as an option?

[12vdubber]

increased build costs, I assume...

But I do think it's weird that the Audi TTS ONLY comes with DSG.

[12vdubber]

Exactly why I stopped at Stage 1+. I knew I was going stage 3 as soon as APR let me, so stopped where I thought made the most sense.

Scott

I have stopped at stage 1 for now... your videos have made me start squirling away money though.