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      10-03-2012 02:47 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by 12vdubber View Post
      I have stopped at stage 1 for now... your videos have made me start squirling away money though.
      It's an investment, for sure, but with me, it was a game changer in this car. It's no Nissan GTR, but it will now hang with some semi-exotic cars easy.
      1st and 2nd gear in this car are just nuts. Car just squats down, hooks up, and goes!
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      10-03-2012 02:59 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by watsonj0 View Post
      I just don't understand why it wasn't available as an option?
      Because it would have broken the $40k barrier. Can you imagine what the average American would say when presented with the idea of a $40,000 Golf?

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      10-03-2012 03:12 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by 12vdubber View Post
      increased build costs, I assume...

      But I do think it's weird that the Audi TTS ONLY comes with DSG.
      Because I think VW wants to have their top of the line small cars to come with manual only since only enthusiasts would spend so much on a premium sporty small car (Mind state in America still seems to be bigger is better). Hence, the TT RS and Golf R come with manual only in the states.

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      10-03-2012 03:19 PM #39
      actually, i may be wrong, but i could have swore i read the future RS will no longer offer a manual option.

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      10-03-2012 03:56 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by DaLeadBull View Post
      Because I think VW wants to have their top of the line small cars to come with manual only since only enthusiasts would spend so much on a premium sporty small car (Mind state in America still seems to be bigger is better). Hence, the TT RS and Golf R come with manual only in the states.
      The TT-S is a premium over there regular TT, and it has the same engine/drive-train as teh Golf-R.
      There no 6 speed manual option though.

      Actually the TTS is one way I justified the cost of the Golf-R.
      I saved $10k and gained much more functionality by buying the VW over the Audi.

    6. 10-03-2012 04:11 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by CALICSGR View Post
      Yeah, seriously. We're not living in Europe.

      I am....and I'm DSG too.
      Golf .:R DSG.....OD HTAGTX3071R.....11.08 @ 124.55mph

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      10-03-2012 04:24 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by 12vdubber View Post
      I think it's important to note that the intake and the downpipe WON'T work with the stage 3 kit.
      This is unfortunate but understandable.
      The stage 3 kit includes the front section of the downpipe, and connects to the middle section of your existing APR downpipe. You can purchase this "midpipe" separately if you are going from stock to stage 3, but the savings are not much.

      The existing carbonio engine cover intake system is not compatible.

      The VWR intake system would be replaced, all the way up to the front filter section. I have not tried it with the stage 3 system, but I don't see a reason it would not fit.

      The CHEAPEST route would be to go directly from stock to stage 3. That way you don't lose money on those parts which are no longer needed. I also think you get a "deal" on the HPFP if purchasing in combination with the turbo kit, don't you?
      We have not decided how we'll do the kits. On the older FSI system we created 4 systems based on what mods you had, but it ultimately becomes a bit of a problem for inventory. When dealers stock stage 3 systems on their shelfs, having parts included / not included ends up being a problem for some of them, so we may stick to the TSI setup and offer just one system. This is all being discussed right now.

      This is kind of the delima I'm in right now... not sure if I want, or could even swing, a BT Golf R a couple years from now... and I don't want to waste money. So I'm sitting tight on any other power mods for now.
      The full downpipe vs the midpipe was only a savings of about $150 iirc. The intake could easily be sold to someone elas. What you do gain by going piece by piece along the way is all the power and enjoyment. I don't think anyone can argue with that.
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      10-03-2012 04:25 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by 12vdubber View Post
      The TT-S is a premium over there regular TT, and it has the same engine/drive-train as teh Golf-R.
      There no 6 speed manual option though.

      Actually the TTS is one way I justified the cost of the Golf-R.
      I saved $10k and gained much more functionality by buying the VW over the Audi.
      I was talking about the top of the line models offered in the US. Its the TTRS and Golf R.

      Again, this is just me trying to make sense of VW's intention.

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      10-03-2012 11:05 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      Here is the route I would personally take:


      APR Stage 1 ECU
      APR HPFP & Free Stage 1+ ECU Upgrade
      VWR Intake System
      APR RSC TBE & Free Stage 2+ ECU Upgrade
      APR Intercooler





      I would start with the performance modifications and then head on over to the suspension mods.



      thanks alot.

      I am going to try to come monday and have APR do the pump and the intake.. what are ur thoughts on the VWR intake VS the APR carbon fiber intake? a friend has one (vwr) that he only used for 2 months and is willing to dump it cheap..

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      10-04-2012 12:33 AM #45
      I had one of the first Stg 3 kits on my S4 back in the day before I got away from VAG cars, now that I'm back into them, I'm definately waiting to see what the stage 3 R kit will have.

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      10-04-2012 12:45 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by r1eater View Post
      I had one of the first Stg 3 kits on my S4 back in the day before I got away from VAG cars, now that I'm back into them, I'm definately waiting to see what the stage 3 R kit will have.
      LOL, I had a Stage 3 MKIV 337 and during an Audi event, I ran door to door with my friends twin turbo Audi RS6, from 70 to 145. All I recall about that run was seeing these HID lights gaining on me in my rear view mirror, and as I was hitting 145mph, a silver Stage 3 S4 came by both of us doing all of 160mph. My jaw dropped! Awesome sounding exhaust on those generation S4's too.
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      10-04-2012 12:51 AM #47
      What is the price range for an APR Stage 3 package?
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      10-04-2012 02:00 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by 12vdubber View Post
      increased build costs, I assume...

      But I do think it's weird that the Audi TTS ONLY comes with DSG.
      And that the TT-RS ONLY comes as a manual.
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      10-04-2012 02:27 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      LOL, I had a Stage 3 MKIV 337 and during an Audi event, I ran door to door with my friends twin turbo Audi RS6, from 70 to 145. All I recall about that run was seeing these HID lights gaining on me in my rear view mirror, and as I was hitting 145mph, a silver Stage 3 S4 came by both of us doing all of 160mph. My jaw dropped! Awesome sounding exhaust on those generation S4's too.

      haha! I miss that car, luckily a friend of mine has it but I cant talk her into selling it back to me yet!

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      10-04-2012 02:34 PM #50
      Here's a little testing down under....




      APR Australia's Street Legal Golf R just made several 10 second quarter mile passes at Willowbrank Raceway, an Australian National Drag Racing Association Ltd certified track.

      This vehicle is street legal in Australia and spends most of its time either daily driving or dominating on the circuit as seen in Motor Magazine. This is not a purpose built drag car.

      The vehicle is equipped with the following power modifications:

      APR Stage 4 Turbocharger System with GTX Turbocharger
      APR ECU Upgrade
      APR Built Motor
      APR High Flow Head
      APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
      APR Intercooler System
      APR RSC Turboback Exhaust System
      APR Low Pressure Fuel Pump System
      APR Carbonio Intake System
      STOCK GOLF R INJECTORS

      It's running on 18" VWR Wheels and MT Drag Radials and Sunoco GT+ 104 unleaded fuel.

      The vehicle is at full weight minus the rear seat.

      Do we have a new world record on our hands?



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      10-04-2012 02:34 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by r1eater View Post
      haha! I miss that car, luckily a friend of mine has it but I cant talk her into selling it back to me yet!
      Juan, is that you?
      2012 Golf R APR Stage 3 [forged internals, APR ported head, balance shaft delete, APR LPFP] (11.141 @ 128.70 mph)
      2013 Audi Q5 3.0T S-Line APR Stage 2+ (12.637 @ 107.63 mph on 93 tune) SOLD
      2014 Golf TDI 6spd man APR Tune. 40+ mpg avg Best tank = 54.5 mpg @ 741 miles

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      10-04-2012 02:35 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      Juan, is that you?
      haha no.

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      10-04-2012 03:04 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by r1eater View Post
      haha no.
      LOL....
      2012 Golf R APR Stage 3 [forged internals, APR ported head, balance shaft delete, APR LPFP] (11.141 @ 128.70 mph)
      2013 Audi Q5 3.0T S-Line APR Stage 2+ (12.637 @ 107.63 mph on 93 tune) SOLD
      2014 Golf TDI 6spd man APR Tune. 40+ mpg avg Best tank = 54.5 mpg @ 741 miles

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