get your facts straight...kid
I'm just wondering, does a show only car really need to run? It's only purpose is to look pretty...
As far as top dawg goes. I don't think shop cars should be judged in a show that built around enthusiasts. I'm not saying they can't be there, it's just not fair to the guys that build their own cars.
Joe def. was a well deserved win. And I have a feeling the judges take notice that he has built effort into that car for years and he only continues to make it better. You could walk around Joe's car 20 times and still probably miss the smallest detail.
lifes not fair, and the show isnt about enthusiasts any more either. its about toolboxes and who can get drunk and do something stupid, and judging by a lot of these threads, about imports.
shop built or not. enthusiast or short term scenester making a splash. a nice car is a nice car. thats why the show field exists. top dawg is best of the best (yes, open to debate every year, i understand...) but if its money and time thrown at the car, then so be it. if you dont have the money or the time to get a car into the top, get it in the show field and compete there. thats why theres so many classes for so many cars. you cant compare the two different builds really.
Truth be told on both accounts.
It is to much to ask to exclude shop cars from individual builds, not all of us are created equal. I for one don't know much about mechanical work. Some pay to get the work done some get the work done themselves either way your own time and money is being put in. And how is a shop built car not personal. You still chose what parts go on your car and how you want it done.
piss and moan.... ****ing people are never happy. Hand build your car to bang with "shop cars" or build your "shop car" to bang with the best self built cars or gtfo. A nice car is a nice car dosent matter if mommy and daddys money built it, flipping birds built it, working your ass off and paying someone buit it, or if you cashed in your check on the 1st of the month and built it. Someone put in that work.
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I personally think if the car cant be driven normally regardless of it being trailerd there or not, it shouldnt be in top dawg. These are suppose to be the best of the best cars, how is a car that doesnt run or barely runs better than any car that runs like a top regardless of its wheels, chrome, polished, plated, body work, interior or w.e else is done. If it isnt running like a top its not complete and a not complete car should not be in a best of the best competition becuase its not the best.
so i guess if the car doesnt run .. you cant compete .. but i guess this car runs .. just not well.. Mr. Atwood, calling Mr. Atwood .. sounds like someone could need your assistance
i was curious about the vibrant clamp off the compressor housing though.. does this thing run a TIP with a MAF or is it mafless?
I just wanted to stop by and say this;
I am absolutely besides myself with pride and honor to have been chosen for this year's Top Dawg, let alone to actually place. It has to be one of the most wonderfully humbling milestones in my life so far. But what's even more special to me has been all the great people I've had the chance to meet, gain insight from, talk with, learn from, and just shoot the **** with over the past 2 years I've had the car. You see, that's my real award - having the car be a catalyst to other more important things in life like friendship.
And as far as my car is concerned and the whole built not bought, shop car, whatever argument - my car was built in a shop (Phantom Autowerke, call them for anything, they're awesome!) but you can ask anyone that knows me I worked my ass off getting that car built. I went to the shop every night after my full time job, every weekend, and any free time in between for 11 months straight. I learned SO MUCH from those guys by being involved and asking questions and doing things myself. I know that car better than anyone else and have a whole new found respect for the work a lot of others put into their cars.
Again, thanks to everyone involved with H2O for putting on one hell of a show - Jay, Cory, Jason, etc. and everyone who's helped me build the car I always wanted - Anthony, Lou, Andrew, Dehate, etc.
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Last edited by CTCORRADOKID; 10-03-2012 at 06:45 PM.
Thanks for the compliment. Paige is my girlfriend and we built her entire car ourselves, but it is nowhere near what Angels 20th is. He is a very cool dude and down to earth. He didn't even wanna bring the car cause its not finished. But his people talked him into it. And for the record his car IS a R32 and yes it is 5spd which is getting changed out. I do agree with what you people are saying. I thought that twin charged mk2 was badass. Everyone was walking past it saying "i cant believe it still has an 8v", and "why do all that to an 8v"......these mk4-5-6 kids need to understand vw history...in the mid 90's you were the man if you had a g60 swap lol maybe i will bring my racecar next year and try for top dawg.....its got a shaved bay and nice paintpanzer 2.3
Call me crazy, but I think that girl Paige had a nicer 20th