gotta say tht JB 20th is pretty nice. I do see what you all mean by spending so mcuh on body and paint and turbo and everything else he should have gone for the 02m swap or even the full awd drivetrain
But honestly its a show car and thats what it was built for obviously just to come win a trophy or try to atleast. And that thing is pretty damn nice for what it is.
I do think its only fair that your TD car should run and atleast be able to drive from hotel into the show and back. I missed the show this year. but post more pics of the said TD cars.
2. opinion may be a stretch in regards to the transmission choice...i would tend to call that a case of "cutting corners"...
either way, i havent lost any sleep about it.....maybe one day we will meet and be able compare notes on what you think is a proper TD worthy build...until then keep sitting behind your keyboard and being an e'know it all
Last edited by fouckhest; 10-04-2012 at 01:16 PM.
for the record, i made well over 500 fwhp on an o2j in mine.
and someone mentioned coilpac angles. if its a 3.2, hes using 2.8 24v coils.
ok, back to the arguing just wanted to break up the p3nis sword fight in here
Nice, i like it. But the car in question is still all around way cleaner, the engine bay is obviously shows that . Yeah he may have used an 02J for the time being, but atleast he didn't cut any corners when it came to shaving his engine bay. All he has to do is swap over to an 02M and it would unfortunately blow your car out of the water.
Don't get me wrong .,you got a badass car. PD's are badass , its just that you're hating on a car thats nicer than yours.
1. i never said my car was cleaner...
2. i will contest that the body lines and flow of my car is much better
3. i know my bay is not near as clean...however, there is no off the shelf tune for a compound turbo TDI, so i know there is much work to be done in they bay, hense the VERY unfinished appearance...but after many thousands of doll hairs and a 2+yr build, i wanted to drive my car and know that the motor is tried/true an proven before it comes back apart and gets finished properly....hell it isnt even painted, it is only a wrap...
4. i can promise you, the year that i decide my car is ready to show up at the BBQ for a chance at TD, it will be a close to a proper dutch build as my menial salary will allow
just understand when you are throwing darts, i have commented several times that i am not saying my car is TD worthy...all i have said, is i dont believe that car is either....
Last edited by fouckhest; 10-04-2012 at 01:47 PM.
Now your boy with the PD would have a little more work on his hands to get his car to the same level. Thanks Andrew
Houck's car >>>> that blue GTI. Given the choice, I'd venture to say that almost every single person who posted in this thread would pick the GTD over the blue one. You say the blue GTI is definitively nicer but most of the people posting here would disagree
Jeez, this is still going on??? The fact of the matter is all the competitors were chosen from a group of judges that seemed to think the cars were worthy of the competition. The judges seemed to have been all over every single car with a fine tooth comb. Maybe if everyone is concerned they should be questioning the judges or event coordinators that choose the vehicles?
Whilst I do believe that the 20th is a clean car, there are finer details which were missed along the way. Houck's body work on the exterior is finished for the most part. And, honestly, his fender lines are far superior to that of the JB 20th. Furthermore, anyone can build a 24v turbo and it's pretty common these days. Have you cracked a look at Houck's GTD? It's a twin turbo diesel that has been fully built top to bottom. There is no 'road map' on how to build a twin turbo diesel, it's all trial and error. There is no 'off the shelf kit' for what he's done, it's all from scratch.
If you really want to go check box for check box, compare the cars straight across. Houck's car is an AWD 6spd twin turbo TDI. The JB 20th is what, an R32 turbo with an O2J? I think there really isn't much more to write about at this point. The JB 20th is just more 'refined' whereas Houck's car is more of a garage project that oozes custom work and ingenuity.
so this class should be taken much more seriously than the rest ..
@mike o. Why would they use 2.8 coilpacks on a 3.2? any benefit ?
Last edited by JDM-JTI; 10-04-2012 at 02:51 PM.
Don't get me wrong, and I made this clear before , the GTD is a badass . But yes I would agree , the JB 20th is definitely more refined.
Last edited by mya2gti; 10-04-2012 at 03:08 PM.