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    Thread: let me know what you think.

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      10-03-2012 09:36 PM #1
      here is my dyno graph, this was done with 110vp fuel, 2* added timing, on the race timing map w/maestro and at 25-27psi. with water/meth on had zero timing pull and with water/meth off i only had 1-2* of pull max. mods are in the sig, no cams yet trying to wait for ie to get theres in stock. but let me know what you think questions, comments, suggestions on new stuff to try and raise the numbers?

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      10-04-2012 09:25 AM #2
      What intake manifold are you using?

      Log or tube exhaust mani?

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      10-04-2012 02:00 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by 1999.5GTIVR6 View Post
      What intake manifold are you using?

      Log or tube exhaust mani?
      sem intake mani w/ 80mmtb, with log exhaust mani.

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      10-04-2012 08:37 PM #4
      really noone has any comments or complaints?

      well then i have a question, since it doesent look like IE will ever get their cams back in stock what in your personal opinions(vortex) would be the next best thing for cams with the set-up i have? i would like the power band to be 4500-8000rpm range.

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      10-04-2012 08:44 PM #5
      do you have logs to see what the kind of timing pull you are getting and you could possibly give it some more timing?

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      10-04-2012 08:58 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by seth_3515 View Post
      do you have logs to see what the kind of timing pull you are getting and you could possibly give it some more timing?
      yes i have logs w/out w/m i had 1-2* of pull and with w/m on i had 0* of pull. this was all with 2* already added.

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      10-04-2012 09:13 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by d18tfoltz View Post
      really noone has any comments or complaints?

      well then i have a question, since it doesent look like IE will ever get their cams back in stock what in your personal opinions(vortex) would be the next best thing for cams with the set-up i have? i would like the power band to be 4500-8000rpm range.
      I like my 3658 Cat Cams.. Only got to try them for 100 miles till things went bad on my build but that 100 miles was good
      Brute 20mm Connecting Rods, ACL Bearings, Wiseco 83mm Pistons, FSI Crank, AEB Head, CatCams 3658, PagParts GT3076R Bottom Mount V-Banded Turbo Kit, PagParts Garret 550HP Core, VF Engineering Motor Mounts, SEM IM, Labonte W/M, 70mm TB, Tial Q BOV, Tial Wastgate, Turbosmart Dual Stage Boost Controller, Peloquin LSD, Clutchmasters FX400, 910cc Injectors, IE Surge Tank, Eurodyne with Maestro.... PAGPARTS Clear Water Dubs

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      10-04-2012 10:19 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by One-Eight GTI View Post
      I like my 3658 Cat Cams.. Only got to try them for 100 miles till things went bad on my build but that 100 miles was good
      how hard were they to install and time them? how much of a power gain did you get? would the 58's be good for my rpm range? thanks

    9. 10-04-2012 10:46 PM #9
      Cams should make a big impact on this setup. IE made big gains w/ their testing and this turbo, you should see something similar up top too.
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      10-04-2012 11:27 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by d18tfoltz View Post
      how hard were they to install and time them? how much of a power gain did you get? would the 58's be good for my rpm range? thanks
      It was easy for me as Arnold built my head for me ... But you can order them from him and he can time them for you and you could install them...

      I was still in the process of breaking engine in so didn't give it balls to the wall the whole time, but the few times I got on her It was amazing.... But I went from last year just stock everything except rods and BT and tune. to this year stroked to 2.0 SEM IM, 70mm TB and AEB head with those cams so can't say it was all from the cams
      Brute 20mm Connecting Rods, ACL Bearings, Wiseco 83mm Pistons, FSI Crank, AEB Head, CatCams 3658, PagParts GT3076R Bottom Mount V-Banded Turbo Kit, PagParts Garret 550HP Core, VF Engineering Motor Mounts, SEM IM, Labonte W/M, 70mm TB, Tial Q BOV, Tial Wastgate, Turbosmart Dual Stage Boost Controller, Peloquin LSD, Clutchmasters FX400, 910cc Injectors, IE Surge Tank, Eurodyne with Maestro.... PAGPARTS Clear Water Dubs

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      10-05-2012 02:36 PM #11
      [QUOTE=One-Eight GTI;79233259]It was easy for me as Arnold built my head for me ... But you can order them from him and he can time them for you and you could install them...

      could you elaborate more on this? how would he time them the shipp them to me and still be in time?

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      10-05-2012 02:45 PM #12
      If you look in my build thread you will see this pic




      See those little yellow dots... Arnold put them there as there the marks for TDC... So he gets the gears on the cams, dials them in and tightens bolts and also tig welded them so they will not move... So when you get the cams in your head you have a reference spot to know where tdc is and also can count the rollers between the teeth... Hope that helps
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      Brute 20mm Connecting Rods, ACL Bearings, Wiseco 83mm Pistons, FSI Crank, AEB Head, CatCams 3658, PagParts GT3076R Bottom Mount V-Banded Turbo Kit, PagParts Garret 550HP Core, VF Engineering Motor Mounts, SEM IM, Labonte W/M, 70mm TB, Tial Q BOV, Tial Wastgate, Turbosmart Dual Stage Boost Controller, Peloquin LSD, Clutchmasters FX400, 910cc Injectors, IE Surge Tank, Eurodyne with Maestro.... PAGPARTS Clear Water Dubs

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      10-09-2012 09:08 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by One-Eight GTI View Post
      If you look in my build thread you will see this pic




      See those little yellow dots... Arnold put them there as there the marks for TDC... So he gets the gears on the cams, dials them in and tightens bolts and also tig welded them so they will not move... So when you get the cams in your head you have a reference spot to know where tdc is and also can count the rollers between the teeth... Hope that helps
      cool thanks a lot, i might be going with the 3658's they seem to suit what want.

      anyone else have any comments suggestions?

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