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    Thread: Sway Bars what brand to choose ?

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      10-03-2012 10:01 PM #1
      There are differance between those brand

      H&R
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      Other brand ?

      For the front and the rear

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      10-03-2012 10:03 PM #2
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      10-03-2012 10:15 PM #3
      I have no complaints with my hotchkis as well.
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      10-03-2012 10:37 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by R32EEEK View Post
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      10-03-2012 10:41 PM #6
      Neuspeed 22mm rear, wanted one of the thicker bars out there but wanted to stay solid. Over OEM, I feel a difference throughout the turn, however I added coils at the same time. I do like my current setup, but I've never driven any other setup on my car.

      I have a 25mm H&R front sway bar which I've yet to install but upon further research, it'll introduce more understeer which I tried to reduce with just a larger rear sway bar.
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      10-04-2012 01:10 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by R32EEEK View Post
      Hotchkis
      this. and nothig else imo
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      10-04-2012 06:57 AM #8
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      10-04-2012 09:37 AM #10
      When I saw this thread I was wondering if Rick was going to jump in with Hotchkis. LOL that he was the first one!

      You had me sold when we were discussing them

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      10-04-2012 04:18 PM #11
      No love for H&R here? I think they make the OEM sway bars, and nobody has ever posted anything bad about their aftermarket sway bars on this forum.
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      10-04-2012 04:38 PM #12
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      10-04-2012 09:20 PM #13
      i have neuspeed front and rear

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      10-06-2012 11:55 AM #14
      Hotchkis here as well.

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      10-06-2012 12:45 PM #15
      Hotchiks have only 19mm on the rear
      Looking for somthing bigger

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      10-06-2012 12:52 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Bouhlee View Post
      Hotchiks have only 19mm on the rear
      Looking for somthing bigger
      Because?

      The Hotchkis f+r work very well together as many here will attest.

      I've run Neuspeed 22 & 25mm rear and 22 front. Broke the 25mm rear. Once I get a replacement back from Neuspeed they'll both be for sale... unfortunately it's a hollow bar, so you may not be interested.

      I found the on-track handling to be much improved after upgrading to the Hotchkis setup. Just my (and other's) $.02
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      10-06-2012 02:42 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Bouhlee View Post
      Hotchiks have only 19mm on the rear
      Looking for somthing bigger
      Rear
      NEUSPEED 25mm - hollow (tubular) seems to snap on a number of people under hard driving.
      NEUSPEED 22mm - solid, don't know of many people besides myself using this
      H&R 21mm - solid, majority say H&R = hums and rattles
      Hotchkis 19mm - tubular, i think this thread speaks for itself

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      10-06-2012 04:36 PM #18
      Some sort of scientific or other reason might help as to why Hotchkis is meant to be better then anything else on the market would be helpful in threads like this ....
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      DRP gearbox`s and R32 rear diffs always for sale

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      10-06-2012 11:29 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Bouhlee View Post
      in for stuff on this

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      10-07-2012 12:32 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by R32.DEVIANT View Post
      Some sort of scientific or other reason might help as to why Hotchkis is meant to be better then anything else on the market would be helpful in threads like this ....
      Dont need to be scientific, I live near them and they do real world testing in the canyon near my house. I hear them all the time.

      If they can get a muscle car to grip in turns then im pretty sure they know their stuff.
      "A genius is not measured by what he knows, but with what he can figure out with what he already knows."
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      Also, remember that you can throw the whole parts bin at the car, you can even pick and choose, but the best modification is to tighten the loose nut behind the wheel.
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      10-07-2012 05:40 AM #21
      In that case i will stick to advising people to get H+R ARB`s then. Each to there own i guess.
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      DRP gearbox`s and R32 rear diffs always for sale

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      10-07-2012 09:37 AM #22
      I run the Neuspeed 25mm tubular. I believe they tweaked it a bit due to all the breaks as previously. I will say that I've run it for about 25k miles over the last two years (very hard this last year on some very technical roads with excellent results).


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      10-07-2012 11:26 AM #23
      I have been running a h+r f/r setup for a lot of years and have been nothing but pleased.
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      10-07-2012 11:39 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by VincewagenR32 View Post
      Dont need to be scientific, I live near them and they do real world testing in the canyon near my house. I hear them all the time.

      If they can get a muscle car to grip in turns then im pretty sure they know their stuff.
      On track testing at Buttonwillow too. Watching them doing R&D on the RS4, was enough for me...
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      10-07-2012 12:00 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by M00NEY View Post
      I have been running a h+r f/r setup for a lot of years and have been nothing but pleased.
      Me as well. Good stuff. Good combination also.
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      10-07-2012 12:48 PM #26
      Somebody try only a rear bar with stock bar in the front
      To make the car feel more like an rwd more oversteer feeling ?

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      10-07-2012 03:45 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Bouhlee View Post
      Somebody try only a rear bar with stock bar in the front
      To make the car feel more like an rwd more oversteer feeling ?
      I did for about 6 months or so. I have the (slightly) adjustable Neuspeed Racing ASB. On the "neutral" setting she rotated her ass much faster. Then on the tight setting there was even more rotation of the rear end, but she did not feel anything close to or approaching RWD..................... Six months later I added HPA's Rear Strut Brace and the Competition Haldex Controller........ O M F G!!!!! Oversteer/rear kick out/drifting is just a stab of the go pedal away. A Rear ASB changes the car. All the other fun stuff puts her in a diffrent galaxy. Got a lot of track days on the Neuspeed and the only thing that has broken is the hearts of my boys that have STI's and EVO's because my "Golf" is all in their jocks!!!
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      10-07-2012 04:40 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by VincewagenR32 View Post
      Dont need to be scientific, I live near them and they do real world testing in the canyon near my house. I hear them all the time.

      If they can get a muscle car to grip in turns then im pretty sure they know their stuff.
      Quote Originally Posted by R32EEEK View Post
      On track testing at Buttonwillow too. Watching them doing R&D on the RS4, was enough for me...
      Just typing what i think not looking for a petty argument or intending to offend anyone. Don`t you think a multi million pound international company with thousands of employees and a world wide dealer network like H+R do basic R+D testing of fitting their products to cars and testing them and can maybe spend 10,000 times more on R+D then a tiny company like Hotchkis ? I got nothing against the company and know they have a very good reputation but the above statements just seem very strange to me as to a reason you buy and fit their product.
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      DRP gearbox`s and R32 rear diffs always for sale

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      10-07-2012 05:03 PM #29
      The hotchkis bars are engineered to compliment each other and work together as a unit... The other companies make bars but to my knowledge do not engineer them to work together in harmony with each other.

      least that is the impression i got.
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      10-07-2012 09:38 PM #30
      Hotchkiss bars purchased
      I waiting my haldex box from hpa
      With solid sub frame bushing and strut mount bushing from 034 the car should be amazing

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      10-07-2012 09:39 PM #31
      Oh i forgot the solid steering rack mount from tyrol and vf engin mount

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      10-28-2012 08:01 PM #32
      Hotchkis swaybar installed ! Soooo nice handling is really increase next step unibrace and more stiffer coilover ( kw v3) this summer

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      10-28-2012 08:44 PM #33
      Glad to hear
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      Also, remember that you can throw the whole parts bin at the car, you can even pick and choose, but the best modification is to tighten the loose nut behind the wheel.
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      10-28-2012 11:58 PM #34
      I've had my H&R rear sway bar on for about 80K hard miles here in NJ and haven't had a single problem. No squeaks or creaks. The bushings seem to be very good quality. Has anyone actually noticed an increase of under steer with the addition of an upgraded front sway bar? I've always wondered this. I get the theory behind it but am wondering if people actually experience this in the real world.

    35. 10-29-2012 12:10 AM #35
      Hotchkis here too.

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