VW announces 2013 Jetta Hybrid pricing

[Swallow Doretti]

Realistically, outside of the Toyota, no one moves many units of their hybrid.

Partially fixed it, but still not really true, because Ford also does well, and amazingly, Hyundai and Kia sell every hybrid they build at about sticker (and, to be clear, the Korean hybrids are CRAP).

But besides Ford and Toyota, how many other companies have really been serious about hybrids?

[Sporin]

True enough, a real dedication to the tech is necessary... GM certainly never had it.

[vwgtiIII]

isn't the TDI easily capable of 45 mpg combined?

Not easily but it is within reason. I'm averaging 44.5mpg with over 12k since May. The aspect to concern with is the EPA vs. real-world numbers. The TDI EPA numbers are like 39mpg combined and are typically underestimates of the real world. Whether the hybrid is over/underestimated is what will be the interesting piece.

[Saintor]

39 mpg is the average for the current Jetta TDI sedans. That's 15% over the EPA estimate.

It is not a diesel thing. On fuelly the 85 2012 Civic excluding hybrid also gets approx 10-15% over EPA estimate at 35mpg. And this might include some Si.