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    Thread: TÜV tales... Let's hear your inspection stories!

    1. Geriatric Member AKADriver's Avatar
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      10-05-2012 08:51 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by GeoffD View Post
      Rolled into the little local garage in Killington that lives off stupid winter touron business the last day of April needing an inspection sticker before I left for the summer.
      Oh man, I hadn't heard the word "touron" since leaving my little upstate NY beach town.

      Maryland has the stupidest safety inspection in the United States. They require inspection when a car changes hands. Most sellers of crappy old cars are, of course, not motivated to do it themselves. Also Maryland is a tiny state and it's hard to pass up used car deals in Virginia, DC, and Pennsylvania.

      Best things I've had cars fail for:
      - Suspension too low (H&R Sports... not stance status). At that time Maryland allowed no suspension modification at all.
      - No shift pattern on the shift knob. Let me repeat that: No shift pattern on the shift knob. Drawing it on a business card was sufficient to get it to pass.
      - Every single old car supposedly had a leaking P/S return line. I wonder if shops used this as an easy scam.
      - I've had a car fail for tread depth at a tire store, then pass at a different mechanic.
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      10-05-2012 08:57 AM #52
      One good thing about the TÜV inspections is that they are done by a few licensed agencies... A dealer or mom&pop shop don't do the inspections so they can't try and pawn off BS things that need fixed.

      That being said, there's no leniency from DEKRA or the equivalent.
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      10-05-2012 09:00 AM #53
      No inspections at all where I live, which IMO is a BAD thing.

      Too many completely dangerous, polluting ****boxes in my area.
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      10-05-2012 09:07 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by DzlDub View Post
      Ahh Alberta, where you can insure and register any POS no problem. Never had to do an inspection, even on cars dating back to the 80s.
      Same here in Quebec, but apperantly, their going to start phasing in tests for emissions and safety. Knowing my province, this means more $ and more time wasted... for which will probably amount to some reduntant test that does not make vehicles any safer anyways.
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      10-05-2012 09:25 AM #55
      I'm conflicted on this. On one hand, I'd very much welcome living in DE and dealing with the TÜV inspection knowing that my car (and more importantly, everyone elses) is up to a standard that would hopefully prevent some of the ridiculous **** I see on the roads around here.


      OTOH, I know that if the same practices are implemented in the US, it would be fraught with fraud by the inspection stations, bitching and moaning from the conservative 'freedom' squad, and poor people wouldn't get the work done anyway because they simply can't afford it.



      Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and move to Germany. I can read Deutsch to a small degree and can ask where the nearest restroom is, so I should be fine?

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      10-06-2012 12:32 AM #56
      I appreciate the TÜV, but it is pretty funny to see it in action. I ARE SRS INSPECTOR!

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      10-06-2012 05:29 AM #57
      Years ago I had to take a brand new, >40km on the clock. Rav4 in for an inspection as the car was purchased new interstate. Took it to the state inspection center and the very first question I was asked was where the compliance plate was! They then went over the car, remember brand new car, with a fine tooth comb until it was time for the brake test. They asked us to put it on the brake test rollers until the head inspector realized it was constant 4wd.
      Last car I had inspected nearly failed due to overwattage bulbs in all my front lights, lucky for me the headlight test machine was broken.

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      10-06-2012 05:43 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by atomicalex View Post
      Ha! That's what the TÜV guys said to me. "Oh, you have a sensible amount of lowering, don't worry about this. We just need the paperwork, it will be fine." Then they proceeded to count the coils in the springs.......
      I literally can see the scene before my eyes

      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      Yeah, I had to go through quite a few inspections in Luxembourg.
      I always brought the car to completely stock beforehand, which meant swapping out the suspension, doing an alignment, swapping lights, wheels and tires,...quite a pain. But I always passed and I never completely slammed the car so the gendarmerie always left me alone.
      Interesting you've been there. You lived there a couple of years? It's ridiculous. When I lowered my Lupo with a Koni kit with complete paperwork I had to go there for 3 consecutive days and wait and argue. And it takes so long to get through there; right now people wait up to 4-5 hours...

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    9. 10-06-2012 09:21 AM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      Still; I prefer it this way than having rust buckets running around.
      Whats this rust you speak of?
      We have cars still on the road from the 40's, no rust.
      Speed limits of 80+MPH and a lot of people that do not read/write/speak English.
      I am more worried about the ones on the road without insurance or the ability to understand English than I am worried about cars which have not been up kept.

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      10-06-2012 10:06 AM #60
      The closest service station to the house has the WORST inspection tech ever..

      He failed me once because he said my (recently installed) rear shoes were installed backwards. I raced home and pulled the drum to figure out how the hell I could have done it.... Once I had it all apart, I realized what I had done wrong.. nothing.

      Never went back.

      Then just this year, a neighbor's car didn't pass inspection with the same inspector. One of the items were side markers that did not work.

      This was the side marker that didn't work. He failed a car because turn signals did not come on with the headlights. How the hell can a guy who's been inspecting cars for 10+ years not know this?



      I almost wanted to take their car back myself and let him try to fail it again, and either.


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      2. Have him fix it, and see what happens, then apply #1

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      10-06-2012 10:53 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
      Whats this rust you speak of?
      We have cars still on the road from the 40's, no rust.
      Speed limits of 80+MPH and a lot of people that do not read/write/speak English.
      I am more worried about the ones on the road without insurance or the ability to understand English than I am worried about cars which have not been up kept.
      What is this english you're speaking of? (BTW, I don't know where you're writing from, update your profile )

      Other than that, I can see your point. But that's not really a problem here. Language is not really a barrier in Luxembourg (check wikipedia, the country has 3 official languages, two of them being french and german and you learn english at school) Then, the insurance gets checked yearly when you pass your inspection. No insurance? No inspection, you lose your driving license and your car gets impounded. Police comes to your house to check for the car if you haven't presented it in due time for the inspection. Of course there are people driving without insurance, but there are few of them so normally your insurance company takes over for him. So what remains are unattentive drivers and road-unworthy cars to be afraid of.
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    12. 10-06-2012 11:02 AM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      BTW, I don't know where you're writing from
      Sorry, that was about Texas(central to west Texas).
      I know about Luxembourg, I have friends from Switzerland which has 4 official languages(only 3 though are used).

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      10-06-2012 11:06 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
      Sorry, that was about Texas(central to west Texas).
      I know about Luxembourg, I have friends from Switzerland which has 4 official languages(only 3 though are used).
      Ok, gotcha
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      10-06-2012 10:03 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by McBanagon View Post

      Then just this year, a neighbor's car didn't pass inspection with the same inspector. One of the items were side markers that did not work.

      This was the side marker that didn't work. He failed a car because turn signals did not come on with the headlights. How the hell can a guy who's been inspecting cars for 10+ years not know this?
      It shouldn't have been an inspection item to begin with. Side markers are not required on cars sold in the USA and Canada (unlike the rest of the world).
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      10-06-2012 10:37 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by NJRoadfan View Post
      It shouldn't have been an inspection item to begin with. Side markers are not required on cars sold in the USA and Canada (unlike the rest of the world).
      Unfortunately, one of the requirements in VA is that all lights work - factory or not.

      I also failed a motorcycle inspection once because I had recently blew a fuse (which I didn't realize until the inspection) for my light bar. I argued that they were not stock, and that's when I learned this requirement.


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      10-06-2012 10:39 PM #66
      It doesn't help that most manufacturers who kept those lights before about 2000 (and still many after) turned them into side markers, possibly confusing people who don't know any better.

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      10-07-2012 02:17 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Lupo TDI View Post
      Interesting you've been there. You lived there a couple of years? It's ridiculous. When I lowered my Lupo with a Koni kit with complete paperwork I had to go there for 3 consecutive days and wait and argue. And it takes so long to get through there; right now people wait up to 4-5 hours...
      I lived there for a number of years, also lived in Belgium. I have to say the inspections there weren't as bad as the ones in Luxembourg though. I did have a Mk1 Jetta fail in Belgium because of quarter size rust spots on one of the doors and the trunk lid...it was "high mileage" too as it just passed 200k kilometers.

      Edit : The longest wait I had in Luxembourg for an inspection was about 3 hours.
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      10-11-2012 06:47 AM #68
      He passed!!

      Last night, I kind of went crazy with the brake cleaner again, worried sick that they would put it back on teh rack to check the tyres and the rusty brake lines. Instead, the engineer walked out to the car, poked at the tyres a bit, asked me if I fixed anything else (yes, I used a brass brush to clean the rust from the brake lines and sprayed them with corrosion protection wax, and I replaced the broken reflector, and I untwisted the tie rod boot), and then stuck the sticker on the sticker on the car.

      Totally non-eventful.

      And truthfully, they could have failed me on the snow tyres - they are right at the limit, and one is partially past it. Whatever. I just paid another 12.90€ and got me a sticker. Here's to two more years of dripping oil all over Germany!
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      10-11-2012 07:04 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by atomicalex View Post
      Here's to two more years of dripping oil all over Germany!

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      10-11-2012 07:18 AM #70
      inspections in czech are pretty tough. nothing like in the states. however, slip the guy some cashes, and my car passed without me even bringing it in
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      10-11-2012 08:33 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      I was worried about my PA inspection with the Mercedes. It leaks, it rides wonky, the parking brake hasn't worked since I bought it and I'm sure the brakes have gotta be past their prime by now. But surprisingly, it wasn't any of those things it flunked on. It flunked on bad engine mounts. I guess the shop figured that was the biggest money maker for them.
      ...WTF? Engine mounts? They actually *checked* engine mounts but NOT the parking brake? That sounds like they didn't do an inspection, they just looked for something to fix.

      If you want, PM me for a shop that will inspect the important stuff. Tires, structural rust , brakes, lights, shocks, and send you on your way without making anything up to extort money. They'll also generally install parts you purchase yourself (assuming you are not a moron and can figure out the right parts to buy) But you might have had to fix that parking brake, and the inspection fee is $60 or so, not the $19.99-and-we'll-create-$200-worth-of-work deal at some places.
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      10-11-2012 08:40 AM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      Maryland has the stupidest safety inspection in the United States.
      Best things I've had cars fail for:
      "Side turn signals not flashing - stay on solid"

      You know those cornering lamps/curb lamps on 80's Lincolns and early Taurus SHOs? The bright white ones that come on with headlights + turn signal? Yeah. Those. Could not convince the guy they were never supposed to flash.

      It was easier to wait 3 months and register the car as historic. Idiots. I kinda wish I had let them 'fix' it. Wonder what they would have done?
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      10-11-2012 08:43 AM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      Oh man, I hadn't heard the word "touron" since leaving my little upstate NY beach town.

      Maryland has the stupidest safety inspection in the United States. They require inspection when a car changes hands. Most sellers of crappy old cars are, of course, not motivated to do it themselves. Also Maryland is a tiny state and it's hard to pass up used car deals in Virginia, DC, and Pennsylvania.

      Best things I've had cars fail for:
      - Suspension too low (H&R Sports... not stance status). At that time Maryland allowed no suspension modification at all.
      - No shift pattern on the shift knob. Let me repeat that: No shift pattern on the shift knob. Drawing it on a business card was sufficient to get it to pass.
      - Every single old car supposedly had a leaking P/S return line. I wonder if shops used this as an easy scam.
      - I've had a car fail for tread depth at a tire store, then pass at a different mechanic.
      Is it comon in MD to say "I'll buy it for $X,XXX if you get an inspection slip?" Or is that rare and they'll just move on to the next sucker? I guess I can always try it.

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      10-11-2012 09:13 PM #74
      bamp for maryland info

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