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    10-04-2012 11:45 AM #1
    Hi all,

    as winter (and a 3000 mile trip across Europe) looms I bought a new LH Battery today. Last time I changed one I just disconnected it and replaced/reconnected the new one.

    However, today I read the TOC on replacing the LH Battery, this states that I should also disconnect the starter battery prior to replacing the convenience one. Is this strictly necessary? If so, why?

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    10-04-2012 11:53 AM #2
    I suppose it might be justified due to the squib on the positive terminal of the RHS battery but I think it's just a piece of general CYA.

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    10-04-2012 11:55 AM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Ludwig View Post
    I suppose it might be justified due to the squib on the positive terminal of the RHS battery but I think it's just a piece of general CYA.

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    Thanks H!

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    10-04-2012 01:01 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Ludwig View Post
    I suppose it might be justified due to the squib on the positive terminal of the RHS battery but I think it's just a piece of general CYA.

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    Last time I saw you in this position Y A was very well C'd.

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    10-04-2012 01:45 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by n968412L View Post
    Last time I saw you in this position Y A was very well C'd.

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    Not the way one should address "Royalty" Mike

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    10-05-2012 04:57 AM #6
    Mike,

    I thought you were getting closer to have a look at the battery, not my A!

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    10-05-2012 09:09 AM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Ludwig View Post
    Mike,

    I thought you were getting closer to have a look at the battery, not my A!

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    10-05-2012 10:00 AM #8
    I didn't board so being able to go home at 5:30 made my day. Apparently, boarding made your whole week.

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    10-05-2012 11:39 AM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Ludwig View Post
    I didn't board so being able to go home at 5:30 made my day. Apparently, boarding made your whole week.

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    Harry,

    did you spell "hole" right there

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    10-05-2012 01:13 PM #10
    Steady, or you'll all have to stay late.

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    10-05-2012 06:35 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Ludwig View Post
    Mike,

    I thought you were getting closer to have a look at the battery, not my A!

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    11-13-2012 10:38 AM #12
    Good afternoon everyone,

    Any idea where i could buy the LHS battery at a good rate ?

    Thanks Hyko

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    11-13-2012 12:36 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by hylko View Post
    Good afternoon everyone,

    Any idea where i could buy the LHS battery at a good rate ?

    Thanks Hyko
    Hi,

    this is where I buy mine, they are reliable!

    http://www.boschbatteries.com/varta-...9-4626-172.php

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    11-13-2012 06:41 PM #14
    Thanks Stu

    Suppose there is no difference in battery for an V6 tdi and V10 tdi?

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    11-13-2012 06:47 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishPhaeton View Post
    ...today I read the TOC on replacing the LH Battery, this states that I should also disconnect the starter battery prior to replacing the convenience one. Is this strictly necessary? If so, why?
    Hi Stu:

    It's a safety precaution to avoid any risk of arcing and sparking if the positive cable that connects to the left battery should happen to touch the frame of the car while you are removing and re-installing the left battery. The left battery is very heavy, and it is very difficult to get it in and out of the car.

    Easiest way of accomplishing this precaution is to just disconnect the right battery from the car's electrical circuit - once that is done, and once you disconnect the left battery terminals, you have no risk of arcing and sparking.

    I don't think that the pyrotechnic device on the right battery positive terminal has anything to do with the matter.

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    11-14-2012 12:07 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by hylko View Post
    Thanks Stu

    Suppose there is no difference in battery for an V6 tdi and V10 tdi?
    I'm sure in the UK we have identical batteries.

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    11-14-2012 12:10 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by PanEuropean View Post
    Hi Stu:

    It's a safety precaution to avoid any risk of arcing and sparking if the positive cable that connects to the left battery should happen to touch the frame of the car while you are removing and re-installing the left battery. The left battery is very heavy, and it is very difficult to get it in and out of the car.

    Easiest way of accomplishing this precaution is to just disconnect the right battery from the car's electrical circuit - once that is done, and once you disconnect the left battery terminals, you have no risk of arcing and sparking.

    I don't think that the pyrotechnic device on the right battery positive terminal has anything to do with the matter.

    Michael
    Thanks Michael,

    you were right about the weight!! It is NOT the easiest task in the world. It only took about 20 minutes to swap the battery over, it then took anther 20 just to get that bl**dy retaining bracket reconnected properly!

    I chose to leave the RH battery connected. I still don't trust German electricians!!

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    11-14-2012 05:07 AM #18
    Hi Stu,

    If you doubt the white-coated Techs in Dresden, here is what the beige-overall'd Brits at Crewe say we must do!

    Chris


    PS - for completeness, just in case anyone with a Bentley stumbles on this page, they also point out that CGT (but not C or FS) have an extra cable between the left and right battery + which means the battery cables remain live even when disconnected from one of the batteries, so must be put in a plastic bag while off.


    Bentley Motors Instructions


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    11-16-2012 01:01 AM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishPhaeton View Post

    I still don't trust German electricians!!
    On behalf of professional engineers everywhere..... I too don't really trust electricians.... but as the advice will be from electrical engineers, it will be precise, accurate, and reliable - and disregarded at your peril. Even more so as it's German!

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    11-16-2012 09:41 PM #20
    Thanks for the link Stu.
    Speedy delivery with those guys and also worked liked a charm in the v6 tdi.

    Easy fitting procedure thanks to the guide on the forum. Thanks

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