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    Thread: MK4 R32 or MK7 Jetta

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      10-04-2012 06:47 PM #1
      I'm finally taking the plunge and financing a car for the first time in my life. My terrible fear of commitment has kept me from buying anything that costs more than $1K. Now that I'm done with college and my student debt is all paid up I have the extra income to buy something nice. But I'm torn between these two options.


      Which would you buy and why?? I'm looking for practical advice such as cost of ownership, resale value, availability of parts and service; as well as an enthusiast point of view such as tuning, coolness factor and worth owning factor.

      Thanks!
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      10-04-2012 06:48 PM #2
      I hate to tell you, but you have a long wait for a mk7 Jetta...

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      10-04-2012 06:49 PM #3
      buy a beater and save your money
      pardon my 'merican

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      10-04-2012 06:50 PM #4
      a good condition low mileage R32 will NOT be 10-15k

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      10-04-2012 06:51 PM #5
      I hate to tell you, but you have a long wait for a mk7 Jetta...
      Oops... I meant to say a MK6 Jetta.

      buy a beater and save your money
      I've driven nothing but beaters for years now. I wan't something nice and I'm not afraid of financing it. I have no wife, no kids and no debt so driving something that puts a smile on my face is worth the money.

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      10-04-2012 06:52 PM #6
      a good condition low mileage R32 will NOT be 10-15k
      you're missing the point.

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      10-04-2012 06:54 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      you're missing the point.
      Seriously though, if a warranty is important, mk6 of the two. If not, the mk4 R is a much more enjoyable car. Finding one that ticks the boxes-clean, low mile, unmolested- may take a while though.

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      10-04-2012 06:56 PM #8
      Don't listen to these monkeys. The Jetta is a pretty decent car. I drove a TDI and thought it was a much nicer drive then my old MKIV TDI Jetta. Who cares about soft touch? I seriously can't remember the last time I squeezed my dash in the Audi to see how squishy it is.

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      10-04-2012 06:58 PM #9
      Do you need 4motion ? If not. Look for 09tsi gti. More reliable then r faster and cheaper to mod.

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      10-04-2012 06:59 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Sir UNBANNED_GERBIL M.B. View Post
      Don't listen to these monkeys. The Jetta is a pretty decent car. I drove a TDI and thought it was a much nicer drive then my old MKIV TDI Jetta. Who cares about soft touch? I seriously can't remember the last time I squeezed my dash in the Audi to see how squishy it is.
      No one said anything about soft-touch, or ride compliance on a mk4 TDI...

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      10-04-2012 07:00 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by 71camaro View Post
      No one said anything about soft-touch, or ride compliance on a mk4 TDI...
      Fully aware. I was just adding my own comparison. That ok?

      Also just butting out arguments regarding the rear beam and hard touch

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      10-04-2012 07:00 PM #13
      Don't listen to these monkeys. The Jetta is a pretty decent car. I drove a TDI and thought it was a much nicer drive then my old MKIV TDI Jetta. Who cares about soft touch? I seriously can't remember the last time I squeezed my dash in the Audi to see how squishy it is.
      I know!! I drove an Enterprise MK6 Jetta and the thing had enough balls to make you lean back on your seat when you punch the gas. Plus being a sedan it might be more useful later in life.

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      10-04-2012 07:02 PM #14
      Do you need 4motion ? If not. Look for 09tsi gti. More reliable then r faster and cheaper to mod.
      Planning on moving to NY this Spring, so 4motion would be nice for the winter months. Not a deal breaker for me tho.

      What about this 09 TSI?? Tell me more about it.

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      10-04-2012 07:03 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by patrickvr6 View Post
      That's for when I can actually afford it, when I finish Law School. I need something to get me through those years for now.

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      10-04-2012 07:07 PM #16
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      why??

      Do you own one? What's it like to own one? Do they break as much as any other VW or more?

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      10-04-2012 07:13 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      why??

      Do you own one? What's it like to own one? Do they break as much as any other VW or more?
      When it comes to reliability, MKIV R32s are pretty much as good as it gets. They came at the end of the MKIV run, so all of the problems had been well sorted out. They have the 3.2 24v engine, so no worrying about coilpacks or timing belts like the 1.8t. If you don't go crazy with it (meaning keeping it N/A...no turbos or superchargers) it will return tons of mileage with absolutely no headaches, minus standard maintenance.

      That said, it does require a bit more maintenance that a standard MKIV, with the haldex fluid needing to be changed every 20k miles or so. However if you can turn a wrench you can change the haldex fluid, not a bad job at al.

      They're a blast to drive and not at all a headache to own. If you've never owned one I say why not? If I had the chance to own another at the right price I'd probably jump on it myself.
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    18. 10-04-2012 07:16 PM #18
      What price range are you looking at? It might be worth it to look at a Golf R, since you are financing.

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      10-04-2012 07:21 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Eightysixturbo View Post
      buy a beater and save your money
      This. Going into debit is "normal". Don't be normal. Save up and pay cash for a vehicle.

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      10-04-2012 07:22 PM #20
      My R32 experience was great. I had to give mine up at 70k miles, but I talked to the guy who bought it from me and he said it's still running great without any problems.

      I would definitely get another one if I could.

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      10-04-2012 07:23 PM #21
      I've never owned either but i would pick R32

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      10-04-2012 07:34 PM #22
      Depends what you want it for. Very different propositions. Dependability, warranty, gas mileage...Jetta. Important to get the blood pumpin when you're in it...R32.
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      10-04-2012 07:36 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      you're missing the point.
      Well price is still an issue. If you really care about how reliable the car will be, and it seems like you do, you'll have to pay a bit extra than what you had stated to find an R in low mileage and good condition. At that point it will cost you very nearly as much as a MkVI Jetta. However the R32 will hold it's value better in a few years, some are still going for 20k these days.

      Have a look at this thread. Not the same comparison but it will give you an idea of what it would be like to own a MkIV R vs a newer VW
      If you want to blend in get the Jetta, if you want to be special get the R

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      10-04-2012 07:50 PM #24
      If you're worried about repair costs and won't be working on the car yourself, do not get an R32. They're not cheap to maintain and at this point they're 8 years old. Things are going to break, and they don't get granny-driven.

      I bought one with 74k miles and I wouldn't do it again unless I had a good stack of money saved up for repairs/maintenance. It's not like they're going to blow up and leave you on the side of the road, but they need A LOT of attention. I'd get a newer car and let the dealership worry about that attention.

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      10-04-2012 07:54 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      Now that I'm done with college and my student debt is all paid up I have the extra income to buy something nice.
      So why are you looking at VWs?
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      10-04-2012 07:55 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by ATL_Av8r View Post
      So why are you looking at VWs?
      You're an ass
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      10-04-2012 08:02 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Time for a GTI View Post
      You're an ass
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      10-04-2012 08:04 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      I'm finally taking the plunge and financing a car for the first time in my life. My terrible fear of commitment has kept me from buying anything that costs more than $1K. Now that I'm done with college and my student debt is all paid up I have the extra income to buy something nice. But I'm torn between these two options.


      Which would you buy and why?? I'm looking for practical advice such as cost of ownership, resale value, availability of parts and service; as well as an enthusiast point of view such as tuning, coolness factor and worth owning factor.

      Thanks!
      You are going to celebrate paying off your student debt by taking on more debt?

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      10-04-2012 08:05 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Navydub View Post
      They came at the end of the MKIV run, so all of the problems had been well sorted out.
      Except for being completely different than the other MKIV golfs tell me more about how they are the same.

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      10-04-2012 08:30 PM #30
      Make a list of all your priorities in a car, test drive both, and decide what you could see yourself paying for for the next three to five years.



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    31. 10-04-2012 09:01 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by true story View Post
      Make a list of all your priorities in a car, test drive both, and decide what you could see yourself paying for for the next three to five years.



      VWoA does not offer any car in America, from the past to the present, that I would ever consider trading my R for.
      What makes the MK4 R32 that much better than a Golf R?

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      10-04-2012 09:10 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by horribleR View Post
      Except for being completely different than the other MKIV golfs tell me more about how they are the same.
      Tell me how they are different? 4motion? Old news in Europe, had been around since the beginning of the mk4 run. 3.2 24v? Other than the bump in displacement, it's really the same design as the 2.8 24v (head flows better, but same basic design/components). O2M 6 speed? Again, had been around for a bit... They run the same Bosch ME7 ECU, the same Climatronic, the same radio, etc., etc., the brakes are improved but are still floating caliper, basic design fare. So tell me, what is so different than all the mk4s? They're different than what was sold here, but not really too different from ROW offerings.

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      10-04-2012 10:56 PM #33
      I got a very nice R32 for about $15k just shy of a year ago. I was in a similar situation and I wanted a nice car to really drive the hell out of and enjoy. I have spent a few thousand over the past year in maintenance, tires, and a few problems (battery crapped out, CV boot ripped), but to me it has been worth all of it. I love driving it every day and I enjoy working on it.

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      10-04-2012 11:00 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      Plus being a sedan it might be more useful later in life.
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      10-04-2012 11:05 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by mk3redstar View Post
      That's for when I can actually afford it, when I finish Law School. I need something to get me through those years for now.
      In school? Stay way from the Mk4 R32.

      They are old enough to where they will break down and will be expensive to fix.
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