Sounds like it's more crap from the wrong coast. I'll enjoy my $3.599/gallon here in good old Ohio ... enjoy your wildfires, $800,000 2 bedroom homes, and earthquakes!
??? Our gas prices just go up without any reason at all in Ontario... and we still pay more then California.
We have abundant electrical power tho... (all the new solar, wind, the Nukes' that are finnnnnally coming back online after prolonged repairs and over-blown budgets as well as consumer demand that is dropping due to more energy efficient tech). Typically we pay New York, Ohio, and Michigan to take our surplus ... Maybe we need a direct line to Cali. Instead of paying for someone to take it we can charge thru the roof!
Over half of the electricity produced in California comes from natural gas.
There's very little power from coal because it would need to be brought in from elsewhere.
The San Onofre nuclear power plant completed an upgrade earlier this year.
Select San Francisco as the graph. If that's not a hockey stick, I don't know what is!
when I was in San Diego a few weeks back I was finding diesel for less than it is in Arizona.
Current fuel suckers: 2012 Mitsubishi Evo X, 2011 Chevy Silverado 2500 Duramax, 2002 Ford F-350 'stoke, 2010 Chevy Equinox monkey hauler, 1995 BMW M3 track project, 1962 Mercury Monterey the never ending project.
Past fuel suckers. Signature would violate forum rules
1) There is a special California petrol blend
2) A larger percentage then normal of the Refinery capacity in California is currently offline due to a number of unrelated events.
3) A least one shipment of crude going to multiple refiners was high in chlorine compounds causing refining difficulties.
Result- Less gas.
| 2012 Nissan Leaf | 1995 Jeep Wrangler | 1999 Olds 88
| 2007 Toyota Prius | 1999 Plymouth Voyager | 1993 Toyota Previa AWD
We generally run into the same situations here in Ontario. The refining capacity is very limited, so when there are any unforseen shutdowns, the supply drops and prices spike. Several times we've had upwards of 1.39/L, which is US$5.15/gal. and we've all been conditioned to US$4.63/gal being normal now. Oil supply is certainly not an issue up here either.
On a side note, this is part of the reason we get vehicles like the Orlando and Trax, since the higher fuel prices makes us more like Europeans for buying preferences (at least in the urban centres)
I had no idea that there are as many Ohio residents on here as there are. This thread has become an OH vs. CA argument. Im guessing that it has to do with the CARB blend for fuel. Not a fuel shortage.
I love opening up Google and typing in "Is California" and it finishes with "on fire."
You think you hate it now. Wait til you drive it.
Typical oil industry executive BS. Any excuse to gouge the public and put the economy at risk to increase their share prices.
Here's the Valero CEO in May of this year:
Valero Energy said it expects more refining capacity to come offline because of weakening fuel demand, even after a number of refinery closures in the US and Europe in the past year.
High unemployment and higher vehicle fuel efficiency have tamped down on fuel sales on both sides of the Atlantic.
High oil prices and decreasing fuel demand caused a number of US refineries in the northeast to shut down, while Valero shut its refinery in Aruba and Hovensa, a joint venture between Hess Corp. and Petroleos de Venezuela S.A.(PDVSA), shut its refinery in the Virgin Islands.
"We believe there's still too much refining capacity in the US and western Europe," Valero CEO Bill Klesse said during a conference call with investors. "Some things die hard."
Topped off both cars today just in case we get some gas price spike.
Oh and for Ohio winters, I love them. I usually just end up in Cleveland on the weekends for Rays MTB park. Always love to catch some lake effect snow. Both cars have snow tires too so I'm never too worried.
All those people bragging about liking snow and loving to play in it...you do realize that we also have a mountain range in California that gets snow too right?