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    Thread: ILX sales are below Acura projections

    1. 10-16-2012 07:27 PM #246
      Finally had a chance to sit in an ILX yesterday, not too bad and I do like that it fixes that annoying dash on the Civic.

      The same dealer had a 6spd TSX on the lot hmm...

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      10-16-2012 07:56 PM #247
      Screw the nav, but at least give the 2.4 car the Civic Si's LSD so it can be a proper Si-in-a-business-suit. I've seen others mention it, but nothing is more frustrating than an open diff in a manual, performance oriented fwd car. It's the main reason I never warned to the driving experience of the manual, first gen TSX.

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      10-23-2012 12:44 PM #248
      Saw my first ilx in person yesterday. I understand why they aren't selling now.

    4. 10-23-2012 05:07 PM #249
      Quote Originally Posted by HI SPEED View Post
      Saw my first ilx in person yesterday. I understand why they aren't selling now.
      I think the TSX is way better looking,and better value for money.

      It is probably the ILXs biggest competitor at the moment,and customers can check them both out on the same showroom floor...

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      10-23-2012 05:09 PM #250
      Quote Originally Posted by anthonymindel View Post
      I think the TSX is way better looking,and better value for money.

      It is probably the ILXs biggest competitor at the moment,and customers can check them both out on the same showroom floor...
      The TSX is about to die, probably because its a much better value than the ILX.

    6. 10-23-2012 05:17 PM #251
      Quote Originally Posted by rynodyno312 View Post
      The TSX is about to die, probably because its a much better value than the ILX.
      The TSX is continuing as is until the end of 2013.
      It and the TL are then merging into one model,the TLX for 2014,which will also be the next Honda Spirior for China,and Accord Euro for Japan,Australia,New Zealand,etc.

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      10-23-2012 05:17 PM #252
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      Screw the nav, but at least give the 2.4 car the Civic Si's LSD so it can be a proper Si-in-a-business-suit. I've seen others mention it, but nothing is more frustrating than an open diff in a manual, performance oriented fwd car. It's the main reason I never warned to the driving experience of the manual, first gen TSX.
      Get the **** out of here you boy racer. Acura doesn't want you around...go buy a used RSX and bondo some **** kit on it. People like you will never allow Acura to rival the likes of Maybach and Bentley, so stop wishing they would build something your McDonalds wage can buy.
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      I'm filming this thread. Just thought I'd let everyone know. I've had some bad experiences with threads in the past.
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      I like when dumb people quote mechanical grip as a metric of whether or not a car is fun to drive. It's like saying McDonald's is the best restaurant because you get a lot of calories for your money.

    8. 10-24-2012 05:18 PM #253
      LOL

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      10-24-2012 05:42 PM #254
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      Get the **** out of here you boy racer. Acura doesn't want you around...go buy a used RSX and bondo some **** kit on it. People like you will never allow Acura to rival the likes of Maybach and Bentley, so stop wishing they would build something your McDonalds wage can buy.


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      10-24-2012 05:46 PM #255
      Quote Originally Posted by rynodyno312 View Post
      The TSX is about to die, probably because its a much better value than the ILX.
      The TSX is dying because there is going to be no more Euro Accord platform. But there is a silver lining here. Yes the ILX sucks as a TSX replacement. But the TLX should hopefully be a great return to form for the TL, which got way too big and bloated in its current generation. A car that positions itself inbetween the current TSX and TL in terms of size and price could hit a sweet spot.

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      10-24-2012 05:51 PM #256
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      The TSX is dying because there is going to be no more Euro Accord platform. But there is a silver lining here. Yes the ILX sucks as a TSX replacement. But the TLX should hopefully be a great return to form for the TL, which got way too big and bloated in its current generation. A car that positions itself inbetween the current TSX and TL in terms of size and price could hit a sweet spot.
      I agree completely; I wonder if the TLX will have a double-wishbone suspension still, or go to struts like the Accord has.

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      10-24-2012 05:57 PM #257
      First I'm hearing of this TLX...

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      10-24-2012 05:59 PM #258
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      I agree completely; I wonder if the TLX will have a double-wishbone suspension still, or go to struts like the Accord has.
      The accord doesn't even have them in the front anymore? Boo.

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      10-24-2012 06:35 PM #259
      Quote Originally Posted by rynodyno312 View Post
      The accord doesn't even have them in the front anymore? Boo.
      Yeah, but it's a total gas to drive, and so is my Si, so obviously they know what they're doing.

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      10-24-2012 07:44 PM #260
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      First I'm hearing of this TLX...

      Acura is renaming all their sedans.

      ILX replaces TSX as entry level
      TL is being renamed TLX
      RL is being renamed RLX

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      10-24-2012 07:46 PM #261
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      First I'm hearing of this TLX...
      You heard it from me first: there will be a 9AT and an inline-4 option.

    17. 10-24-2012 08:08 PM #262
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      You heard it from me first: there will be a 9AT and an inline-4 option.
      I thought all 4cyc will get CVT and V6 9 speed AT?

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      10-24-2012 08:14 PM #263
      Quote Originally Posted by above8k View Post
      I thought all 4cyc will get CVT and V6 9 speed AT?
      I didn't say those two would come together; just that they will both be there.

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      10-24-2012 08:26 PM #264
      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      Acura is renaming all their sedans.

      ILX replaces TSX as entry level
      TL is being renamed TLX
      RL is being renamed RLX
      Hm, cool. Complete redesign for the TLX?

      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      You heard it from me first: there will be a 9AT and an inline-4 option.
      Not sure if serious..

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      10-24-2012 09:21 PM #265
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      Not sure if serious..
      I am serious.

    21. 10-24-2012 10:16 PM #266
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_9HP_transmission#_

      Only the Chrysler has been confirmed up to this point to receive the ZF unit. Honda should also get it (albeit at a year after Chrysler) but no publc confirmation as far as I know.

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      10-24-2012 11:26 PM #267
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      Hm, cool. Complete redesign for the TLX?
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      2014 Model year. TL is on a 5 year lifespan. Current model was released for the 2009 model year. Next gen is due for 2014.

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      10-25-2012 12:08 AM #268
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      I am serious.
      Wow, 9AT for Acura eh...finally they're doing something right.

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      10-25-2012 01:46 PM #269
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      Wow, 9AT for Acura eh...finally they're doing something right.
      The new RLX SH-AWD will have. 7 speed dual clutch transmission. Wile I'm not 100 percent sure, I thi the FWD version will have either the 9AT or a CVT. The RLX is due out this December.
      Last edited by a2a4raddo; 10-25-2012 at 01:48 PM.

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      10-25-2012 01:59 PM #270
      7 speed dual clutch is one thing.

      But, a 9 speed, really?

      There's gotta be a point where just adding more gears doesn't yield much. I would've figured at 7 it would've been good, guess I was wrong.

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      10-25-2012 02:01 PM #271
      ILX, TLX, RLX, RDX, MDX is a horrible mistake.

      Acura should check with Lincoln and see how that's working out for them. At least with Acura it's mostly the first letter/syllable that is different, which is slightly better, but you're still talking extremely similar sounding names, all with the same last syllable.

      How many years should it take for them to realize the alphabet soup isn't working for them the way "x-series" or "x-class" do for certain target competitors?

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      10-25-2012 02:26 PM #272
      Quote Originally Posted by a2a4raddo View Post
      The new RLX SH-AWD will have. 7 speed dual clutch transmission. Wile I'm not 100 percent sure, I thi the FWD version will have either the 9AT or a CVT. The RLX is due out this December.
      my guess is that the 6AT will stay with the honda's for V6 and I4's get CVT or 6MT, and Acuras get 7DCT (high end or shawd models) and 9AT for FWD
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      Wow, it amazes me that we have children in here that can't read a couple paragraphs. No wonder America's doing so well in education! Can't take the time to read, but sure can find the time to post. Self indulgence at it's finest.

      TL;DR should be banned and changed to ID;CR or I'm dumb, can't read.

    28. 10-25-2012 02:52 PM #273
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      You heard it from me first: there will be a 9AT and an inline-4 option.
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_9HP_transmission#_

      Only the Chrysler has been confirmed up to this point to receive the ZF unit. Honda should also get it (albeit at a year after Chrysler) but no publc confirmation as far as I know.
      I would find it exceptionally unlikely that this will happen.

      Reason: Honda engines sit on the "wrong" side of the car and spin the "wrong" direction compared to the orientation used by EVERY other manufacturer, and there is no sign of this changing. The ZF transmission in the form being manufactured by ZF, is designed for the conventional orientation.

      *Could* it be flipped over ... Sure. At a minimum, it would require new cases. Anything sensitive to direction of rotation (example: oil pump) would have to be changed. But all of the changes made to this transmission to make it fit in a Honda, would have to be parts specific to Honda alone (read: expensive).

      Honda has always used their own transmissions mated to their own engines, and unless something "gives" with the orientation and rotation direction, it's going to stay that way.

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      10-25-2012 03:04 PM #274
      Quote Originally Posted by GoFaster View Post
      I would find it exceptionally unlikely that this will happen.

      Reason: Honda engines sit on the "wrong" side of the car and spin the "wrong" direction compared to the orientation used by EVERY other manufacturer, and there is no sign of this changing. The ZF transmission in the form being manufactured by ZF, is designed for the conventional orientation.
      I don't think that has been the case since the B-series.

    30. 10-25-2012 04:27 PM #275
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      ILX, TLX, RLX, RDX, MDX is a horrible mistake.

      Acura should check with Lincoln and see how that's working out for them. At least with Acura it's mostly the first letter/syllable that is different, which is slightly better, but you're still talking extremely similar sounding names, all with the same last syllable.

      How many years should it take for them to realize the alphabet soup isn't working for them the way "x-series" or "x-class" do for certain target competitors?
      TL already has been around for long eough not to be f'ed with by changing the name

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      10-25-2012 05:37 PM #276
      Quote Originally Posted by rynodyno312 View Post
      I don't think that has been the case since the B-series.
      This. I don't know about the J-series, but the K-series definitely spins the 'correct' way.

      Re: the 9AT...we will see! I'm pretty confident in my prediction, though.

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