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    View Poll Results: Which engine would you choose?

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    • Audi S6 - biturbo V8 TFSI Gasoline

      21 30.43%
    • Audi A6 - biturbo V6 TDI Diesel

      45 65.22%
    • None of the above (explain)

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    Thread: High Performance Gas vs Diesel Sound Off - What do you choose???

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      10-04-2012 10:37 PM #1
      LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMBLLLLLEEEE!!!!!!

      In this corner, we have today's favorite - the 420 hp / 406 lb-ft 4.0L Twin Turbo Gasoline V8.

      0-60 in 3.7 seconds and about 28 mpg on the highway.





      In the other corner we have the underdog - the 313 hp / 480 lb-ft compound bi-turbo 3.0L V6 TDI

      0-60 in 4.4 seconds and over 40 mpg on the highway.





      Who do you pick, and why? Vote above!

    2. 10-04-2012 10:41 PM #2
      I can't watch any of the videos or anything right now, but Im gonna say the TDI. The A6 in general is a whole lotta car, and a V6TT TDI is nothing to scoff at. After that it might just be excessive, for a luxury sedan like this. Also if I were badge-conscious, buying the TDI isn't a badge to be ashamed of IMO.
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      10-04-2012 10:41 PM #3
      More torque plus better mileage? TDI all the way.

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      10-04-2012 11:12 PM #4
      Was expecting sound clips...
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      10-04-2012 11:38 PM #5
      TDI. Slap a Milltek on it and enjoy.

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      10-04-2012 11:44 PM #6
      I voted 4.0L because it sounded better to me. Diesel cars aren't meant to be fun - thats why I want a Touareg TDI.

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      10-04-2012 11:47 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by VertigoGTI View Post
      Was expecting sound clips...
      Do you not see the 4 YouTube videos posted?

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      10-04-2012 11:50 PM #8
      I pick neither.

      I prefer the sound of an old fashioned high-compression American V8.
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      10-04-2012 11:54 PM #9
      I vote for the TDI, but with this exhaut setup

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      10-05-2012 12:02 AM #10
      V6 TDI with the output of my V10 TDI? Hell, yes!

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      10-05-2012 12:06 AM #11
      I chose the TDI.
      The difference in 0-60 acceleration is largely academic to me. The greater torque and better fuel efficiency are things that I'll notice in my driving. It's a win-win.
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      10-05-2012 05:48 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Dinosaurius View Post
      I chose the TDI.
      The difference in 0-60 acceleration is largely academic to me. The greater torque and better fuel efficiency are things that I'll notice in my driving. It's a win-win.
      X2. Now, in a lighter weight sports car, that's a different proposition.
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      10-05-2012 06:59 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Mathdiesel View Post
      I vote for the TDI, but with this exhaut setup

      WOW what a sound! they managed to get that awesome trademark VAG 6 cyl resonating trumpety sound. I love it.
      How does a rotary work? This one's easy: the magic triangle spins in the peanut and then apex seals come out.

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      10-05-2012 07:28 AM #14
      One word....torque.
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      The rest are caused by people who can't drive any better than a drunk.

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      10-05-2012 10:25 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Bigtree View Post
      One word....torque.
      Neither choice is lacking in that. The gas engine may have less overall torque, but the powerband is way way wider. The torque peak is longer than the whole powerband of the diesel (more powerful S8 engine shown).


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      10-05-2012 07:04 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Mathdiesel View Post
      I vote for the TDI, but with this exhaut setup

      I hadn't heard that one before, thanks.

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      10-06-2012 02:24 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Mathdiesel View Post
      I vote for the TDI, but with this exhaut setup

      Impressive.
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      10-06-2012 02:25 PM #18
      Neither because I would rather own a Jag than an Audi
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      10-06-2012 03:56 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Neither because I would rather own a Jag than an Audi
      Says the man with "2.0T_Convert" as his username.
      How does a rotary work? This one's easy: the magic triangle spins in the peanut and then apex seals come out.

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      10-06-2012 04:15 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by simon_C View Post
      Says the man with "2.0T_Convert" as his username.
      Why would that imply he needs to pick the Audi? It's not like the Jag is a bad choice, they're damn sexy.

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      10-06-2012 04:26 PM #21
      I'd take the one that revs past 4k.

    22. 10-06-2012 04:31 PM #22
      I voted the diesel because the Hp/Tq are both already so great that for everyday use, the difference would be negligible. Both cars are very quick and the ability to hit 40mpg would blow me away. It is one thing to line up next to a car and blow them away with hp & speed but to do both while besting their mileage greatly at the same time is a very powerful statement.

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      10-06-2012 04:33 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by 92skirmishgti View Post
      I'd take the one that revs past 4k.
      The diesel goes to 5,200.

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      10-06-2012 04:41 PM #24
      Voted none. Don't like newer Audis and don't like the sound of newer engines.

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      10-06-2012 06:41 PM #25
      Bi-turbo TDI. Sound alone is about V8 quality. The torque + mpg combo just take it over the top.
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      10-06-2012 08:37 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      The diesel goes to 5,200.
      Touche

      Let me rephrase, I'll take the one that is still making power above 4k.

      My GF has a E350 bluetec and god that thing sucks in the upper range...

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      10-06-2012 08:57 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by 92skirmishgti View Post
      Touche

      Let me rephrase, I'll take the one that is still making power above 4k.

      My GF has a E350 bluetec and god that thing sucks in the upper range...
      Honestly, the biturbo pulls hard to redline, it doesn't let up at all. It holds peak power to 4,500 RPM.

      The single turbo V6 gets soft above 4,000 RPM - just like the E350.

      To make power above 4k, you need a sequential multi turbo system, no question.

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      10-06-2012 09:04 PM #28
      TDI no contest. Living in Europe 0.7 seconds slower to 60 is insignificant compared to an extra 12mpg. Plus all that extra torque!
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      10-06-2012 09:06 PM #29
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      10-06-2012 09:07 PM #30
      TDI.

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      10-06-2012 09:26 PM #31
      Keep the torque, give me the speed. Gas for me please.
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      10-07-2012 09:03 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
      TDI no contest. Living in Europe 0.7 seconds slower to 60 is insignificant compared to an extra 12mpg. Plus all that extra torque!
      Yeah, for US gas prices and driving style, my choice could go either way. In Europe, the advantage shifts towards the TDI. Fuel prices are an issue and Autobahn driving would strongly favor the TDI.

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      10-07-2012 10:05 AM #33
      You guys complaining about revs need to use your gears better. :pop:

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      10-07-2012 12:35 PM #34
      As mentioned, at idle, that tdi sounds like an americna v8
      I voted TDI, theres nothing better than driving into narrow garages, and hearing the diesel roar!

      I understand OP is comparing engine noises, but for all of you, comparing a s6 to an a6 is a little apples to oranges, no? Does the s6 not have a tuned exhaust to make it sound sporty?

      Does the new BiTDi need the add blue?

      Second, the supersprint exhaust, the video mentions reprogramming the dpf, have they found a way to remove it completely, and program the ecu?

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      10-07-2012 01:29 PM #35
      For the type of driving I do 95% of the time? TDI.

      It'd be hugely rapid and likely deliver high 20's on the city cycle. In a car like the A6, that's fantastic--and much better to live with in the real world than the S6, which would likely return 16-18 I'd think (for comparison, I barely get more than 22mpg in my GTI on my daily commute, which averages 18-19mph).

      However, the S6 is huge value against cars like the Merc and M5. Honestly, I couldn't see myself stretching to buy an M5 over the S6.

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