I am a "noob" with a question. Is "dumped" impractical? dangerous even? i have over 300 hptq and i love the look but i wana live

[in2deep2sell-20v]

I just finished building my motor only stroked 20v to 2.0l with fsi crank, 83mm wiseco pistons, ie rods and built tuned AEB head. I only have the standard coilovers, swaybar, strut bar braces , but im not that "LOW" but i want to go lower for looks. So please explain to me how people drive safely with stretched tires on 9.5 inch wheels. Can they go fast? My questions is that when a car is considered "stanced" with "poke" with -camber , Is the driver lacking common sense? Or am i crazy?? I love the wide low look, but can the car perform like that?

[Big_Tom]

LOL if you want talk to the kids who do this stuff move this to the MK4 forum. This is the 1.8t engine forum... or you could check out the suspension forum...

the guys in here are more conventional with their suspension ways

[Scigano]

^^^ What he said — and watch out for your oil pan. If you're still using the O.E.M. oil pan — riding real low makes it highly susceptible to ending up like this:



If something ever punches a hole in your oil pan, you have to cut the engine off immediately to prevent it from running bone-dry.

[DMVDUB]

If you put all of that money in your engine there is now way you want / should want to run low like the MK4 kids.

At least buy a panzer plate if you're joining the rest of the sheeple

[VWBugman00]

If you put all of that money in your engine there is now way you want / should want to run low like the MK4 kids.

At least buy a panzer plate if you're joining the rest of the sheeple

You can't really go super low with the Panzer plate, as it will drag something fierce. The hybrid pan with the steel bottom is the next best option though.

[DMVDUB]

OK... well I personally don't think going super low is cool, so I wouldn't know. All I know is dropping it to the ground with 300whp/wtq is going to effect the performance. A properly set suspension will allow the user to take advantage of the HP gains. Slamming will defeat the purpose.

[Scigano]

That's something else to consider. If you're going to drop it real low w/ that much power (and want to use it), you're going to have to spend some money.

Your setup, whatever you get, will have to allow adjusting camber enough for the front wheels to be gripping as much of the ground as possible. That torque will cut the ground from right under a set of wheels only using half of their contact patch.

[DMVDUB]

EXACTLY

[toby lawrence]

Also, the CV joints on stock axles are easily blown if you're low enough... even without running a ton of power.

Best person to talk to, that I can think of, would be ForVWLife. He's big turbo and bagged. He's probably broken and beefed up quite a bit of **** when it comes to running a lot of power and being low. Obviously, this doesn't change that you could smash a rock and drain all your oil over the road, but he probably has some tips.

[x_GTI_x]

look into air suspension, honestly.

it will ride better than cheap budget-coils and you can lay it out when parked.

[in2deep2sell-20v]

I heard that extreme lowering.destroys geometry, and thrust.angles are affected .AND if you are like you said a kid who REFERS TO THESE AS EMKAYFORS (not I) stupid modifications
Done the.wrong way are your things. kids in suspension forum couldn't answer one question
so I came where I feel more confident in your answers.. Basically, I just want to look good. Can't help it. I just want to get her new shoes. My current wheels are.phuked. Coilovers bent them bad...PS I've been driving a.dumped E30 since.I was 17 I know how it is to crack the oil pan I'vedone.it.twice

[Scigano]

If you're dead-set on it, and depending on how low is "low enough" for you — I think you're looking at a deep-drop set of springs (2", 2"+?!) from a reputable company like Eibach or H&R.

I know Eibach's Sport springs are their most aggressive set. H&R's Sports drop just over an inch, so I assume that won't do. You'll need a good set of replacement shocks if you don't have those already to handle the drop — like Koni or Bilstein. Then you'll need at least some camber-correcting control arms, maybe full plates.

You can go full coil over and get 90% of what you need from one manufacturer, but you may still need the new control arms too. Or you can go Bag — the most expensive solution of all, but ride height adjustability at the the flick-of-a-switch.

If your suspension will be fixed, the hybrid oil pan from ECS Tuning wouldn't be a bad idea due to the stock pan's punch-ability.

[groggory]

If your suspension will be fixed, the hybrid oil pan from ECS Tuning wouldn't be a bad idea due to the stock pan's punch-ability.

Or the baffled pan from INA.

If you go that low I'd look into some drop spindles, camber plate, and beefy axles


...with that, this thread goes to the suspension forum