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    Thread: Anybody deal with the Toyota truck frame rust recall?

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      10-06-2012 09:19 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0TJett View Post
      Take it and trade it in and this time buy Chevy if you need a truck!
      we've got a 99 chevy silverado we used only to plow the lot since 2004... sitting in the back yard with a body mount rotted off so bad, the cab shifted when it broke and now you cant steer it anymore... so thats not really much better..
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    2. 10-06-2012 09:40 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0TJett View Post
      Take it and trade it in and this time buy Chevy if you need a truck!
      Uh, yeah, lets downgrade even further!
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      10-06-2012 10:06 AM #28
      My brother-in-law had his truck re-purchased several years ago. He was very surprised and pleased with the buy-back price.

    4. 10-06-2012 10:51 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      Uh, yeah, lets downgrade even further!

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      10-06-2012 11:58 AM #30
      This has been fixed right?

      This thread makes me very scared to look at the underside of my fj cruiser.

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      10-06-2012 01:50 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke View Post
      Uh, yeah, lets downgrade even further!
      Yeah.
      Toyota may use iron oxide for frames, but the rest of the truck falling off said rusty frame is solid.
      Wait...what?
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      10-06-2012 02:46 PM #32
      Interesting...

      I was cruising a local Toyota Dealer's lot this morning to scope a 2003 Sequoia. My wife is looking to get a SUV. It is a Michigan car with 129,xxx miles.


      Sure enough, I was poking around the truck and looked underneath, and was appalled by the amount of rust underneath the car.

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      10-06-2012 03:04 PM #33
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      10-06-2012 04:28 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Spray` View Post
      This has been fixed right?

      This thread makes me very scared to look at the underside of my fj cruiser.
      No, go look. My 2006 4runner (basically the same vehicle mechanically as your fj) is starting to look pretty rusty on the underneath side and its meticulously cared for.
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      10-06-2012 05:35 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post

      I feel pretty bad for Toyota 'cause they had to take all this heat for their subcontractor.
      I don't. Nor should anyone.

      The way business works is companies beat the hell out of their suppliers to make things as quickly and cheaply as is humanly possible. Suppliers have little choice, turn down the contract and you are putting yourself out of business. So you rush like crazy to get everything setup and production running, and you do the best you can. Sometimes there are oversights that could have been corrected if you had the time to stop and think about what you are doing. Sometimes the issue is that you had to cut your costs so much that the process got essential parts skimmed off of it.

      I am a production manager for an american manufacturing company. It's a tough business.

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      10-06-2012 05:48 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by s-rocc View Post
      I don't. Nor should anyone.

      The way business works is companies beat the hell out of their suppliers to make things as quickly and cheaply as is humanly possible. Suppliers have little choice, turn down the contract and you are putting yourself out of business. So you rush like crazy to get everything setup and production running, and you do the best you can. Sometimes there are oversights that could have been corrected if you had the time to stop and think about what you are doing. Sometimes the issue is that you had to cut your costs so much that the process got essential parts skimmed off of it.

      I am a production manager for an american manufacturing company. It's a tough business.
      As I mentioned before- even if it was a supplier mistake, at some point during a decade plus of bad truck frames somebody at Toyota should have noticed.
      A few years of bad frames? Supplier. Over a decade of bad frames? The manufacturer.
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      10-06-2012 06:00 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      As I mentioned before- even if it was a supplier mistake, at some point during a decade plus of bad truck frames somebody at Toyota should have noticed.
      A few years of bad frames? Supplier. Over a decade of bad frames? The manufacturer.
      Also a valid point.

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      10-08-2012 08:52 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Yeah.
      Toyota may use iron oxide for frames, but the rest of the truck falling off said rusty frame is solid.
      Wait...what?
      That's actually a nice way of putting it. The truck has been extremely reliable for both me, and my dad whom I bought it from. For being his work truck for 10 years (electrical contractor), the interior, the drivetrain, and the body are in remarkably good shape. I did the brakes and tires 2 years ago, and did the exhaust (also rusted out) last year. Other than that, nothing besides oil changes.

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      10-08-2012 09:01 AM #39
      So this effects the last-gen Tundra's as well?


    15. 10-08-2012 09:23 AM #40
      Is there any generation of Toyota truck that doesn't rust? I grew up lusting after late 80's Yota's only to see them all with the aftermarket 2x6 bed 8 years later. I wonder if the new thing is to build a pressure treated frame under the 95-05 Yota's Might have to get an alignment every time the humidity changes, like a fine piano.

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      10-08-2012 09:29 AM #41
      Update:

      Talked to Toyota, who gave me a Case#. They said that there is a "campaign" (not sure how this is different from a "recall") for Sequoias of my model year, and in cold-weather states (PA qualifies), but only for a certain window of VINs. Mine is not in that window. I'm not sure how they came up with the window. They recommended I go to a dealer to have the issue documented, but after that happens, I'm not sure what the next step will be.

      So I talked to the service manager at the local dealer, and I'm dropping it off tomorrow morning for them to check out. I guess that's all I can do for now.

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      10-08-2012 11:14 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by kar_nut View Post
      Is there any generation of Toyota truck that doesn't rust? I grew up lusting after late 80's Yota's only to see them all with the aftermarket 2x6 bed 8 years later. I wonder if the new thing is to build a pressure treated frame under the 95-05 Yota's Might have to get an alignment every time the humidity changes, like a fine piano.
      The new ones (05 up) don't seem to really be rusting. But that could be because paranoid owners are washing them more, not because Dana changed their paint system
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      10-08-2012 11:28 AM #43
      OP - good luck

      Quote Originally Posted by urogolf View Post
      we've got a 99 chevy silverado we used only to plow the lot since 2004... sitting in the back yard with a body mount rotted off so bad, the cab shifted when it broke and now you cant steer it anymore... so thats not really much better..
      There is a bit of a difference between a truck being used for PLOWING and another used for normal commuting duties don't you think?

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      10-08-2012 11:51 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by PlatinumGLS View Post
      OP - good luck


      There is a bit of a difference between a truck being used for PLOWING and another used for normal commuting duties don't you think?
      Was only used out on the road as a commuter for the first 4 or 5 years of its life, was traded in for a Prius, and has been plowing only in a parking lot (meaning it sits idle 10 out of 12 months a year equivalant)
      Only time it left the lot was to get gas (across the street)

      Also note it was parked on asphalt not dirt or grass..

      all I know is that Ford, ChryCo and GM would laugh and tell you to pound tar... Toyota is dropping $10K on average to fix these things

      remember... over the past few years we've done about 1000 of em on average $10,000 each = $10,000,000.00 paid just to our dealership so far on this over a few years... multiplied by the number of dealers in the country doing this... THIS IS COSTING THEM BILLIONS!
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      10-08-2012 11:55 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      Correct. Dana is actually the manufacturer of these frames. It was an on-going issue with the paint Dana was using. Problem with rust is by the time it shows up and you see you have a coatings problem, you've shipped 500,000 frames

      Dana was also the manufacturer of the Ford Windstar frames - the ones that would rust through and crack in half while you were driving.

      I feel pretty bad for Toyota 'cause they had to take all this heat for their subcontractor.

      They must have made the frames for Isuzu as well. My '02 Rodeo was that bad, if not worse. Isuzu issued a recall but that seemed like a joke. If you had stage 1,2,or 3 they sprayed something on it, 4 or 5 and they would buy it back. So basically it had to be crumbling apart to get an offer.

      I thought I remember hearing about QX4's and Pathfinders with this too.

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      10-08-2012 01:12 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Exhaustdd View Post
      I thought I remember hearing about QX4's and Pathfinders with this too.
      The Nissans are unibody - iirc they rust on the inner fender at the firewall.

    22. 10-08-2012 06:46 PM #47
      Pathfinders are not unibody...except the brand new ones

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      10-08-2012 06:53 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by 1995Camry View Post
      Pathfinders are not unibody...except the brand new ones
      These are:
      Improving the signal-to-noise ratio

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      10-08-2012 06:53 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by 1995Camry View Post
      Pathfinders are not unibody...except the brand new ones


      No.

      Unibody from '96 on.

      http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...pathfinder.htm

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      10-08-2012 06:58 PM #50
      The '96-05 models are Unibody, outgoing Pathfinders were BOF.

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