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    Thread: What will it take to get/force you out of your car and into some other form of transit?

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      10-06-2012 12:19 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by McBanagon View Post
      Cost of parking, and traffic got me out of mine.


      • Taking the subway to work costs me $15 and takes me an hour to get there.
      • Parking at work costs me $20, and takes an hour sitting in traffic to get there.
      • My left foot, wear and tear on the car, and my wallet says..... subway.


      I would much rather drive my cars to work. Drinking a cup of coffee, listening to the radio, farting, picking my nose, and having a guaranteed seat..... but It's not worth it.
      The only downside, I think, is dealing with the disaster that is WMATA... But I know what you mean. I moved from DC to ATL last month and went from taking public transportation or walking everywhere to driving absolutely everywhere. Crazily enough, it seems like I am actually saving money on a day to day basis. A tank of gas lasts me 2 weeks and it costs 45-50 bucks to fill up my tank. With all of WMATA's peak times, long waiting times and fare hikes, I am actually happy to be driving to and fro work. That said, going out at night is a different story all together. I suppose I just need to find places to crash at the end of the night

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      10-06-2012 12:31 PM #52
      I live in rural America. Our local bus system is weak and extremely limited. It would be impossible for us to do our work commute, school and soccer practice stuff using it. Impossible.

      We did switch from our beloved but gas guzzling truck to the Prius in Dec. '12 though.

      With our current setup, even $10/gal. would be manageable. We set ourselves up for rising fuel costs as best as we could given our local and needs.

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      10-06-2012 12:44 PM #53
      They'd have to replace all the smelly poor people on the bus/train/subway with strippers that serve bourbon. And that's a lot of strippers. And then I'm still keeping the S2000.

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      10-06-2012 12:52 PM #54
      Better bike and PT infrastructure. But I suppose thats a but of a "chicken vs. egg" scenario. Ive been using PT fairly regularly since I live downtown, plus its nice my partner gets free bus passes through his work. For longer trips though (like to Provo or Ogden), thats when ill choose the car every time.

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      10-06-2012 01:09 PM #55
      I would LOVE to take public transit to my job. One small problem stands in the way: I drive for the local public transit agency, first shift.
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      10-06-2012 01:10 PM #56
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      10-06-2012 02:41 PM #57
      It wouldn't take much. I live in a big city, but where I live, there is NO METRO. The bus system in this part of town is sub par as well. In highschool, if I walked home, it would take me about an hour. If I took the bus it would take about an hour as well. The bus was thus only taken when there was a severe snow or rain storm.

      There is a train that brings you to the center of the city, but that is about a 45 minute walk from my house. A lot of my friends take this, but they take their cars to the train station. So a car is still needed.

      Moral of the story? If I had decent public transportation available to me, I would not own a car right now. I would maybe own something fun that I could drive occasionally (Ill be honest, I love driving too much to give it up outright) but the cost of gas, parking, insurance, etc is really getting to me and all of us.
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      10-06-2012 04:13 PM #58
      If I lived in the center of the city and also worked there, I wouldn't have a car. Or if I did have a car it would be a complete POS to be used for ski and bicycling trips.

      But unfortunately even in Philadelphia, the public transit just isn't good enough. I just got back from touring Germany and holy crap, its so cheap and easy to use the public transit that there really is no reason to own a car. And many people in the cities don't.... its evident in the air quality. I never realized just how much the city smelled like car exhaust until I got off the airplane yesterday. Didn't get that at all in downtown Munich, Zurich, Frankfurt, etc.
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      10-06-2012 04:15 PM #59
      It took me a move to Chicago and not being able to afford a parking space where I live.

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      10-06-2012 04:36 PM #60
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      10-06-2012 04:41 PM #61
      forcing you into some form of transit

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      10-06-2012 10:51 PM #62
      As a rural American I'd have to return to urban living. That won't happen any time soon. Out in BFE my 17 mile commute takes less than 20 minutes and is stress free.

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      10-06-2012 11:13 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Preppy View Post
      • Cost of gas?
      • Cost of parking?
      • Cost of insurance?
      • Committment to being energy conscious?
      • Never get rid of your car, regardless?
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      10-07-2012 12:10 AM #64
      I just don't think It would happen. Just don't see it.
      Maybe to work, but def wouldn't give up my car .
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      10-07-2012 12:12 AM #65
      I spend roughly $8,000 on fuel a year currently ... I think the average price for a gallon of gas would have to rise from $3.80ish (what I'm paying now) to over $16.00/gallon (quadrupling) in order to force me out of driving. Even then, I'd probably just move closer to work rather than give up my car.

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      10-07-2012 03:56 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      i have a family and taking mass transit to do shopping for the kids is out of the question. i can't imagine trying to haul $400.00 worth of costco stuff home on a bus... my God....
      The problem I see is CostCo, not the bus

      Not that it's your fault, but that is the way we've been developing suburbia. If you had a small corner market within a couple blocks of your home, it would be a part of the lifestyle. You could buy fresh food daily or every other day, and not have to live the big box/frozen food lifestyle.

      It's ironic that we have to live like pioneers at the edge of civilization with our monthly treks to town for goods.

      I keep nothing in my fridge but a few condiments and fluids. I don't use my microwave. I go to the market daily. I cook all meals from scratch or near to, but never with frozen food - always fresh meats, veggies, fruits, etc.. But my market is 2 miles away - just far enough to mean I have to drive. A scooter or even bicycle would be ideal, but the risk at this point is pretty high. The streets have 55mph speed limits, and every time I drive, I see cars weaving into the occasional bike lanes.

      Public transportation here is not very robust, either. One bus, every 1-3 hours, and it doesn't go to that shopping center with the supermarket???

      Maybe $8 /gallon gas will make us re-think this ill strategy of putting up miles of walled boulevards and forcing us into the big box culture.

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      10-07-2012 04:00 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post
      I do not think anything would be able to force me out of a car and into another form of transit.
      Partly because the next 'big' city is ~150-200 miles away but mostly because I enjoy driving too much to give it up.
      I don't see these as mutually exclusive. I could be happy riding a bus to work as long as I have the freedom to drive my car whenever I want (for fun). I'd wager that I even prefer it. When I've been on the road for work, it was always nice to be in a place where I didn't have to drive to work, but could still get into a car and drive for fun after work / weekends.

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      10-07-2012 04:22 AM #68
      I've used public transportation here before. Turns out I hate the public. And being unnecessarily early for work.
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      10-07-2012 08:22 AM #69
      Not an option for me.. What is generally a 25 minute drive would be an hour to 1.5 hour commute via bus / train.... so definitely not an option for me.
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      10-07-2012 08:33 AM #70
      A shotgun.

      Besides the fact that our public transit systems basically suck in Toronto, I also can't stomach having to wait around, and having to deal with people. Lastly, my job requires me to be all over the place on a moments notice, so I'm a car guy until they take my license away.


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      10-07-2012 08:54 AM #71
      I'm already out of the car - I haven't had a car since I moved to China over 5 years ago. Right now I rely on my electric scooter (commuting 1 day a week plus grocery shopping and trips to the nearest Metro stop), my bicycle (commuting 4 days a week) and the Metro (any other trips I need to take).

      However, my wife and I are planning to buy a car next year for non-commuting purposes (i.e. travel, shopping, etc) just because it will be more convenient to take our family around if we have one. However, I will not ever drive to work, because commuting by car has absolutely no advantages in Shanghai, and plenty of disadvantages.
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      10-07-2012 08:59 AM #72
      I live within the footprint of where I work, walk every day. Still would never get rid of my car.

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      10-07-2012 09:08 AM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Tokyosmash View Post
      I live within the footprint of where I work, walk every day. Still would never get rid of my car.
      I hope to have a long term civilian arrangement like this. This is how I did it for a few years when I was in the military. Cycling would be okay too if I had a shower and something like a locker at work.
      Quote Originally Posted by apizzaparty View Post
      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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      10-07-2012 10:31 AM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
      I hope to have a long term civilian arrangement like this. This is how I did it for a few years when I was in the military. Cycling would be okay too if I had a shower and something like a locker at work.
      Seems like a lot of military types fit this mold. My older brother used to ride when he was in the Corps stationed at that air station near Irvine.

      Hey, at least you are in an area with mild weather for biking. Up here in MI, we are definitely limited a 1/3rd of the year unless one is really dedicated.

      I bought a bike for recreation back in 2009 and once I got back to the USA an opportunity opened up for me to ride to work for the first time ever. And now... I try to ride every chance I get. It is a great cardio chance for me and allows me to relax as I go to and from work. I go to (2) different facilities in the Metro Detroit area (Pontiac and Warren) and live somewhat in between (Birmingham). It's 11 miles one way in either destination so I can get a good workout.

      This is my current ride... (when I don't absolutely need the car)


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      Exercise, saves gas, fun... I love it. I still like cars, but eversince being spoiled by a fantastic/fun drive while living around Mexico City/Toluca for 3 years... coming home to the boring drive of Metro Detroit just bores the heck out of me.

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      10-07-2012 10:36 AM #75
      I feel for some of you so deep in the Burbs that you cannot walk or ride to the grocery store, etc. The area I live puts me within 5 miles of plenty of restuarant or grocery/shopping stores so I can walk or ride my bike... save for the deep of winter.

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